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[dzs Angel]

Enough to magically make the largest voting bloc in the conclave vote against their head member and what they stand for?

 

I doubt it.

No, but someone like Lambard could have caused it, instead of the divine.

[Divine Justinia V]

He bloody well better be alive, i demand at least a five second cameo expressing that fact.

 

 

God has spoken.

 

I don't recall God speaking on anything

[Abraham_uk]

They have much better standarts than patients in mental institution... from that i have seen they have better conditions than arl eamon... outisde freedom they have kings life great food and living conditions much better than most of thedas... they bit*** about nothing

 

 

It's an interesting point, however I don't entirely agree.

 

So you in prison but that's okay because you have nice food and a nice bed.

You're not allowed to see the outside world.

You have to stay indoors all the time and get bullied by authorities.

 

 

People make that exact same argument about real life prisons.

It's an argument often made by people with no experience of what it's like to be behind bars.

 

 

Freedom sadly is something that is greatly underrated.

 

 

I'm not arguing that all prisoners should be released. 

I'm just saying that prison isn't a pleasant environment due to the lack of freedom and inability to fully interact with the outside world.

[Master Warder Z_]

I don't recall God speaking on anything

 

You doubt my divinity?!

 

I will Almighty push you straight off a cliff!

[EmissaryofLies]

I sincerely hope that Lambert and the Divine still breathe. The Divine can be of great use to the mages, nary a more powerful ally to call upon. Lambert can also be of great use to the mages.

[Divine Justinia V]

You doubt my divinity?!

 

I will Almighty push you straight off a cliff!

 

I am the Divine, after all.

 

Don't almighty push me, that's not nice   I'd rather you almighty push elves and mages off a cliff before you do it to me.

How about we almighty push Tallis off a cliff? y/y?

[Master Warder Z_]

I sincerely hope that Lambert and the Divine still breathe. The Divine can be of great use to the mages, nary a more powerful ally to call upon. Lambert can also be of great use to the mages.

 

I do indeed hope both of them alive as well, just for very differing reasons.

[Divine Justinia V]

I sincerely hope that Lambert and the Divine still breathe. The Divine can be of great use to the mages, nary a more powerful ally to call upon. Lambert can also be of great use to the mages.

 

I'm sure Justinia is still alive, Lambert on the other hand, I think the chances are slim -- but even so, I'd prefer him living.

[Master Warder Z_]

I am the Divine, after all.

 

Don't almighty push me, that's not nice   I'd rather you almighty push elves and mages off a cliff before you do it to me.

How about we almighty push Tallis off a cliff? y/y?

 

 God finds your title unamusing.

 

And i'd agree to doing it Tallis first...She is an abomination in the eyes of God.

[The Elder King]

 God finds your title unamusing.
 
And i'd agree to doing it Tallis first...She is an abomination in the eyes of God.

I wonder how you'll be able to do all those things when you are, you know, kind of dead .

[Master Warder Z_]

I wonder how you'll be able to do all those things when you are, you know, kind of dead .

 

 *Has the ability to revive the dead*

 

Just you know...putting that out there.

[The Elder King]

 *Has the ability to revive the dead*
 
Just you know...putting that out there.

Having the ability doesn't mean you can use it when you're dead .

[EmissaryofLies]

Tallis is a remarkable elven specimen whom I was absolutely thrilled with letting skimper off to an enemy faction carrying pertinent information.

I swear if this protagonist is any more like Hawke outside of killing sh*t I will cry.

[Divine Justinia V]

I love and hate this thread so, so much.

[TheKomandorShepard]

That's fine isn't.

 

So you in prison but that's okay because you have nice food and a nice bed.

You're not allowed to see the outside world.

You have to stay indoors all the time and get bullied by authorities.

 

 

People make that exact same argument about real life prisons.

It's an ignorant argument made by people with no experience of what it's like to be behind bars.

 

 

Freedom sadly is something that is greatly underrated.

 

 

No. I'm not arguing that all prisoners should be released. I am merely arguing that prison is a very unpleasant environment.

 

Well considering what will they meet outside and that they have and live in better conditions than most of thedas... 

Even average class in orlais live worse and is treated worse than mages...

Mages have standarts better than prisons in current times.

 

Lets be honest you can be abused even now in every step just but peoples prefer live in illusion , policeman can kick your a** without consequences unless someone will record that to be honest such actions by police aren't only often ignored but also accepted in police to make you confess that you are guilty.

 

Technology can change , system also but peoples don't...

 

You don't have real freedom in our times either if you do something that nation won't like they will punish you and country have thousands requirements just because you live in it.Try kill yourself you can't (unless you succeed) they will lock you for doing that and much more...

 

So circle is better place for mages than current prisons...

[Master Warder Z_]

Having the ability doesn't mean you can use it when you're dead .

 

Given how Father Jiji is doing the same thing...I'd assume i could

 

Why i am not? I have no friggin clue beyond Kishimoto not liking me apparently...

[TK514]

Oh yes, lol quite a lot on these forums
Do you think Lambert is still alive? I know the phrase "look into my eyes" has killed everyone else, I can't imagine him not in DA:I, though. Since he has such a huge part, you know?

On the fence, to be honest. What a reader considers to be explicit and what the author considers to be explicit often enough have little to do with each other. Gaider could go either way. He could say "This is Bond style poetic justice, catch phrase and all", or he could say "You didn't see a body".

I don't think Lambert, or any of the novel characters, is critical for inclusion in DA:I, but they would be convenient shorthand for those who are familiar with the book.

My personal preference is for him to be alive. I would like to see the story develop with the Seekers having been hamstrung by their leadership rather than incompetent or derelict in their duty, and, in the end, allowing them to clean house themselves rather than have some external force do it. Just seems more fitting to me, and allows a better development of the organization, wherever it goes from here.

[dzs Angel]

I sincerely hope that Lambert and the Divine still breathe. The Divine can be of great use to the mages, nary a more powerful ally to call upon. Lambert can also be of great use to the mages.

May I ask how Lambert should be of use to the mages?

[Master Warder Z_]

May I ask how Lambert should be of use to the mages?

 

I really wouldn't if i was you.

 

It's likely so pro mage bs justifying Murder or torture.

[dzs Angel]

I really wouldn't if i was you.

 

It's likely so pro mage bs justifying Murder or torture.

But why should a religious zealot like Lamberd help the heretics? At least that is Lamberds point of view. He despises mages because of what happened in Tevinter.

[Hellion Rex]

I really wouldn't if i was you.
 
It's likely so pro mage bs justifying Murder or torture.

And it's so you to jump straight to the generalizations.

[Master Warder Z_]

But why should a religious zealot like Lamberd help the heretics? At least that is Lamberds point of view. He despises mages because of what happened in Tevinter.

 

Why would Insane Fanatics accept the help of a Seeker if he even offered it?

 

Fiona is an unstable taint brained loon, Not exactly a stable source of leadership.

[Master Warder Z_]

And it's so you to jump straight to the generalizations.

 

._. It's Emmisary of Lies Elu.

 

What do you think he would want do with Lambert? Reinstate him as head of the Seekers to safeguard the circle against corruption? 

 

And speaking of generalizations...You really have no bridge to walk on when it comes to that account.

[EmissaryofLies]

I really wouldn't if i was you.
 
It's likely so pro mage bs justifying Murder or torture.

Yes because killing someone who intends to imprison, murder or lobotimize you, with the latter two being the more likely scenario is "bs". Whatever floats your boat.
 
 

May I ask how Lambert should be of use to the mages?

If not having to murder him. The mages could sit him down and inform him of the error of his ways. Pat him on the back and send him on his journey. It would be therapeutic for the mages. Teaching them that love, kindness and forgiveness is the only true way to win.

[Master Warder Z_]

I really wasn't proven wrong via my "generalization" huh? Big surprise. 

 

Honestly call it generalization all you like, its about 90% of the time accurate to a t.