Whom by this point is an expreinced Warden but i digress that is the truth of it.
A man who defeated an Orlaisian Lord Commander in single combat, killed who knows how many elite knights and bannermen during the rebellion can fall to basically...well a gutter churl.
As someone who is starting to show some mileage myself, I feel like I have to point out that Logain is getting a little bit long in the tooth by the time he fights the Warden, and still put on a respectable show.
To be fair from the pro-templar point of view, in Act 3 the gang that runs rumpant in Hightown are a bunch of blood mages.
Which kind of begs the question why the templars now posted throughout Hightown aren't doing anything.
They could be spread out too thin, considering Meredith has templars stationed at the Viscount's Keep (where she is also trying to usurp control of the City Guard), with other templars helping her keep her grip over the control as de facto Viscount, and even more helping her control the Circle of Kirkwall. There's also the issue of the templar death squad (who are in Hightown), who seem to have no problem with killing people, even non-mages.
lol 7? perhaps leader of blood mages count groups and abomnations under their leadership and that was from 1 person perspective that don't even have to deal with mages every day.Even snarky hawke can say that it would be good if there was at least 1 weak without meeting insane blood mage...
Well if hawke meet very many of them i think that templars have to deal with more do i have mention that mages escaping from circles insn't anything new? especially with soft ,naive and incompetent templars like thrask
Or she was looking for an excuse to kill all mages all along, because her little sister used to be a mage and harmed her family. Anders used to be a Grey Warden with strong ties to the Wardens. Shouldn´t she have blamed the Wardens for his undoing? Because The Chantry is not allowed to control the Grey Warden mages?
Or she was looking for an excuse to kill all mages all along, because her little sister used to be a mage and harmed her family. Anders used to be a Grey Warden with strong ties to the Wardens. Shouldn´t she have blamed the Wardens for his undoing? Because The Chantry is not allowed to control the Grey Warden mages?
As i said meredith was insane and i think that she wanted just chop mages but roa was totally in place circle was corrupted from top to bottom everything was showing that and everything was confirmed during roa...
I don't tink 1 corrupted or stupid person speaks that entire organisation is that same but if most is fond of that traitis they are dominant in that organisation and that was with kirkwall circle...
He bloody well better be alive, i demand at least a five second cameo expressing that fact.
God has spoken.
Plenty of time for me to kill the sanctimonious ******.
As i said meredith was insane and i think that she wanted just chop mages but roa was totally in place circle was corrupted from top to bottom everything was showing that and everything was confirmed during roa...
I don't tink 1 corrupted or stupid person speaks that entire organisation is that same but if most is fond of that traitis they are dominant in that organisation and that was with kirkwall circle...
Are you talking about Knight Captain Thrask and his fellowship? Because if most of the mages weren´t allowed to leave the gallows, how could they have done any harm to anyone. Remember tihs is Kirkwalls circle not fereldens circle. In Kirkwall a mage is made tranquill for disagreeing to often with the templars.
Are you talking about Knight Captain Thrask and his fellowship? Because if most of the mages weren´t allowed to leave the gallows, how could they have done any harm to anyone. Remember tihs is Kirkwalls circle not fereldens circle. In Kirkwall a mage is made tranquill for disagreeing to often with the templars.
Well i talk about general corruption in circle at least on mage side i gathered all the pieces (corrupted mages) and we have picture what circle was...
I don't see reason why they should they were corrupted and walking bombs that are danger for society they should stay in gallows as every other mage stays in tower/circle...
Wasn't that because as far i renember both were same when it comes about running around only kirkwall circle responded first and prevented another ferelden circle event that leliana in da 2 mention...
Do you have even prove or basics to say that because as far i renember alrik was only person (and perhaps his minions) doing that?
Well i talk about general corruption in circle at least on mage side i gathered all the pieces (corrupted mages) and we have picture what circle was...
I don't see reason why they should they were corrupted and walking bombs that are danger for society they should stay in gallows as every other mage stays in tower/circle...
Wasn't that because as far i renember both were same when it comes about running around only kirkwall circle responded first and prevented another ferelden circle event that leliana in da 2 mention...
Do you have even prove or basics to say that because as far i renember alrik was only person (and perhaps his minions) doing that?
Anders Quest (Part 1), Thrasks Quest (Part 3) and Meredith admitted to locking up all the mages, because she didn´t want to take a chance.
Anders Quest (Part 1), Thrasks Quest (Part 3) and Meredith admitted to locking up all the mages, because she didn´t want to take a risk.
I was talking about making tranquill not locking i know she was locking them as every KC and circle should because this was point behind it...
I was talking about making tranquill not locking i know she was locking them as every KC and circle should because this was point behind it...
Anders quest (Part 1), his tranquill friend in the chantry. Once Justice reverse the effect, he starts talking about what happened.
Anders quest (Part 1), his tranquill friend in the chantry. Once Justice reverse the effect, he starts talking about what happened.
That was done by alrik so another empty accusations toward templars in kirkwall 
And to be honest, what proof of actual blood magic did she even have, to have her Circle worthy of an Annulment?
I do not know.
Although it's not hard to come to the"the Circle is beyond saving" conclusion given all the s*** going on in Kirkwall, and obvious ties between apostates/blood-mages and the Circle.
Let's not forget that Meredith asked for a RoA before Anders blew up Elthina.
Which means she already thought the Circle was corrupt.
Or she was looking for an excuse to kill all mages all along, because her little sister used to be a mage and harmed her family. Anders used to be a Grey Warden with strong ties to the Wardens. Shouldn´t she have blamed the Wardens for his undoing? Because The Chantry is not allowed to control the Grey Warden mages?
He murdered a bunch of Wardens and escaped. I kinda doubt the Wardens would give him a warm welcome.
And what do Wardens have to do with Kirkwall?
That was done by alrik so another empty accusations toward templars in kirkwall
Why should he lie to Anders, he would have freed him anyway. He could have lied to the authorities, but not to his friend and savior.
He murdered a bunch of Wardens and escaped. I kinda doubt the Wardens would give him a warm welcome.
And what do Wardens have to do with Kirkwall?
If he lost all or almost all ties with the wardens, why is he able to save your sister or brother by introducing them to the wardens (end of act1 Deep Roads).
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And what do Wardens have to do with Kirkwall?
About as much as the Gallows Circle of Magi has to do with Anders?
So let me be straight. There are people who think Fiona is immoral and lunatic while they worship Lambert?
I need to get out of here, right now.
I know, right? 
He murdered a bunch of Wardens and escaped. I kinda doubt the Wardens would give him a warm welcome.
And what do Wardens have to do with Kirkwall?
In a short story that framed Anders involvement with the Grey Wardens as though a mage had never been a member of their organization, and then had the Wardens allow an obvious templar spy into their midst. The US Ending with the Magi Origin (where Greagoir publicly concedes to allow the new Circle Tower to be free of templar authority) makes it clear that Greagoir isn't the kind of person who try to push the Wardens, who have had permission to have mages among their ranks for close to a millennia. It's also a tale where Anders became an invincible cannibal.
There's so much about that short story that simply makes no sense.
That was done by alrik so another empty accusations toward templars in kirkwall
Following that logic, any evil action committed by an identified blood mage can't be assigned to the Circle in Kirkwall.
If he lost all or almost all ties with the wardens, why is he able to save your sister or brother by introducing them to the wardens (end of act1 Deep Roads).
Honestly, the short story with Anders feels as though it's divorced from the narrative of Dragon Age II. Queen Anora and King Alistair are sympathetic to the plight of the mages. If the Warden-Commander is pro-mage, than it makes even less sense that the order would acquiesce to allow a templar spy into the organization. If the Warden-Commander is a mage, I'd think having a mage having political power as Arl, as well as commanding an army and governing a city, would be more of an issue for the templars (and even the Chantry) than a single mage serving as a Warden.
So he was pushed into committing a crime by a religious zealot. You are right to a point. But with Alriks obvious flaws, why didn´t Meredith relieve him of command?
His behavior is nothing alarming in templars organisation because almost every templar is fanatic and i want point that despite that many sociopaths and psychopaths despite being hostile when they are not on sight aren't recognized as such even by family or friends.So arlik didn't had to run around screaming what he was doing...
Following that logic, any evil action committed by an identified blood mage can't be assigned to the Circle in Kirkwall.
What logic alrik and his minions were few individuals in whole organisation that were shown to be corrupted hell worse notes we have in current police.Mages were many i would say easily most mages in kirkwall were corrupted they weren't just few individuals.
When 2 peoples is corrupted in 1000 peoples organisation oragisation isn't corrupted when 800 peoples in 1000 peoples organsation is corrupted then yes we can say that organisation is corrupted...
What logic alrik and his minions were few individuals in whole organisation that were shown to be corrupted hell worse notes we have in current police.Mages were many i would say easily most mages in kirkwall were corrupted they weren't just few individuals.
When 2 peoples is corrupted in 1000 peoples organisation oragisation isn't corrupted when 800 peoples in 1000 peoples organsation is corrupted then yes we can say that organisation is corrupted...
I agree... if the numbers are true. You're just making them up. The only things we know as facts are that both groups have dangerous maniacs and that their leaders hide dark secrets (Orsino and the blood mage murderer, Meredith and red lyrium). The parallelism is evident.
Honestly, the short story with Anders feels as though it's divorced from the narrative of Dragon Age II. Queen Anora and King Alistair are sympathetic to the plight of the mages. If the Warden-Commander is pro-mage, than it makes even less sense that the order would acquiesce to allow a templar spy into the organization. If the Warden-Commander is a mage, I'd think having a mage having political power as Arl, as well as commanding an army and governing a city, would be more of an issue for the templars (and even the Chantry) than a single mage serving as a Warden.
Excactly, Anders is still considered to be a warden by to many wardens. And the first warden would never be careless enough to fall for a chantry spy, while the Grey Warden order is trying to take over Anderfels.
His behavior is nothing alarming in templars organisation because almost every templar is fanatic and i want point that despite that many sociopaths and psychopaths despite being hostile when they are not on sight aren't recognized as such even by family or friends.So arlik didn't had to run around screaming what he was doing...
So you are telling me the chantry is allowing insane and dangerous people to become members of the templar order, thus safeguarding humanity from evil mages and certain doom, while they are spreading the chant of light in order to safe humanities souls. So our fate is decided by fanatics, religious zealots and psycopaths. Well, I guess that´s something.
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