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[Hanako Ikezawa]

He doesn't say the city was already black.

"The city! It was supposed to be golden! It was supposed to be ours!"

 

He certainly at least implies it was black by the time they got there.

[Jedi Master of Orion]

He says "But it was black...corrupt... darkness ever since."

 

The "ever since" part makes it sound it it was black ever since his visit.

[Treacherous J Slither]

Because even blood magic has limits. And Qunari strength, numbers, and technological advancement just happen to overcome those limits giving them the edge. Even the most powerful blood mage is not impervious to gunpowder or poison gas.

 

 

Physical strength means nothing to magic. A blood mage can force a warrior to slit his own throat with a simple gesture. His muscle and martial ability will be useless.

 

Vast numbers mean nothing when your enemy can make your army turn upon itself. Whatever armed force that you field against Tevinter can instead become an armed force that they field against YOU.

 

Gunpowdwer and poison gas are quite formidable but again when your enemy has mind control powers even these weapons can be turned against you.

 

Oh man I didn't even mention the Dreamer type mages! There are freakin' FREDDY KRUGER MAGES! How do you beat that?!

[TheKomandorShepard]

Physical strength means nothing to magic. A blood mage can force a warrior to slit his own throat with a simple gesture. His muscle and martial ability will be useless.

 

Vast numbers mean nothing when your enemy can make your army turn upon itself. Whatever armed force that you field against Tevinter can instead become an armed force that they field against YOU.

 

Gunpowdwer and poison gas are quite formidable but again when your enemy has mind control powers even these weapons can be turned against you.

 

Oh man I didn't even mention the Dreamer type mages! There are freakin' FREDDY KRUGER MAGES! How do you beat that?!

 

Yeah right... unlimited power my a**

[Divine Justinia V]

He says "But it was black...corrupt... darkness ever since."

 

The "ever since" part makes it sound it it was black ever since his visit.

 

K well, "It was supposed to be Golden" is also a direct quote, so

And I think he's talking about darkness since he left and "it was black" when he arrived. What other color would the "golden city" be" if not gold.

[TK514]

K well, "It was supposed to be Golden" is also a direct quote, so
And I think he's talking about darkness since he left and "it was black" when he arrived. What other color would the "golden city" be" if not gold.

Just to take the other side, there's every reason to suspect it was Golden until they opened a portal to it. Given this is the Fade, corruption need not follow a progression or even anything like the physical laws we take for granted. It could very well have been pure when they opened the portal and black in the instant they stepped through.

[Divine Justinia V]

Just to take the other side, there's every reason to suspect it was Golden until they opened a portal to it. Given this is the Fade, corruption need not follow a progression or even anything like the physical laws we take for granted. It could very well have been pure when they opened the portal and black in the instant they stepped through.

 

I see what you're saying and that may be a possibility, but I don't know, personally for me, I interpreted it a different way. I imagine there's a lot more corruption in the "city" than we know of.

[Master Warder Z_]

Just to take the other side, there's every reason to suspect it was Golden until they opened a portal to it. Given this is the Fade, corruption need not follow a progression or even anything like the physical laws we take for granted. It could very well have been pure when they opened the portal and black in the instant they stepped through.

 

Indeed.

[TheKomandorShepard]

It doesn't rly matter if city was golden or black mages caused blight regardless of color....

[TK514]

I see what you're saying and that may be a possibility, but I don't know, personally for me, I interpreted it a different way. I imagine there's a lot more corruption in the "city" than we know of.

There's also the possibility that it was golden outside and corrupt within, and them breaching it allowed the exterior to be tainted.

But, as you say, there just too much we don't know. It is intentionally ambiguous, I suspect.

[Master Warder Z_]

It doesn't rly matter if city was golden or black mages caused blight regardless of color....

 

Rarely say this but i agree.

[Divine Justinia V]

It doesn't rly matter if city was golden or black mages caused blight regardless of color....

 

It's still nice to talk about?????? but ok.

 

 

There's also the possibility that it was golden outside and corrupt within, and them breaching it allowed the exterior to be tainted.

But, as you say, there just too much we don't know. It is intentionally ambiguous, I suspect.

 

That's a good way of looking at it. Do you think DA:I will touch on any of this?

[EmperorSahlertz]

They share a border. And a cold war is still a war. Espicially if your enemy would jump at any chance.

No they don't. The one border they shared was at the Blasted Hills, which Nevarra took a couple of years ago. So Orlais and Tevinter don't actually share a border anymore. And there has been no hostilities between the two nations for centuries, so it isn't even cold war.

[Lulupab]

It doesn't rly matter if city was golden or black mages caused blight regardless of color....

 

Yes it justifies locking mages up a  for a thousand year and still doing it later. Meredith was an Icon of what the whole Templar order stands for. A mage or some mages commit a crime, all mages pay for that. Would it be the same if a templar committed such crime?

[TheKomandorShepard]

It's still nice to talk about?????? but ok.

 

 

Color of it doesn't matter and there is little to talk about because we don't have any clear infomations about it so..

it was black

no it was golden

no it was already black

but noooo...

[Treacherous J Slither]

Yeah right... unlimited power my a**

 

 

I never said mages had unlimited power. It'd be kinda hard to lock 'em up if that were the case.

 

I'm talking about a nation of powerful blood mages and how they would be damn near impossible to take out unless their enemy had similar or comparable power.

[TheKomandorShepard]

 

 

Yes it justifies locking mages up a  for a thousand year and still doing it later. Meredith was an Icon of what the whole Templar order stands for. A mage or some mages commit a crime, all mages pay for that. Would it be the same if a templar committed such crime?

 

If templars had potential to do that like mages in causing disasters well i would chop them and yep it justifies even simple "i don't like them" justifies that as well... i can see why peoples don't want another end of the world sponsored by mages...

 

 

I never said mages had unlimited power. It'd be kinda hard to lock 'em up if that were the case.

 

I'm talking about a nation of powerful blood mages and how they would be damn near impossible to take out unless their enemy had similar or comparable power.

 

Not rly qunari are superior when it comes to every country they have technology safe , powerfull and have endless opportunity to develop when rest of thedas have magic destuctive ,unstable and it deliver mostly troubles when being weaker and worse than technology in every matter perhaps outside healing... and give that qunari have mages as well and are more united when tevinter is rotten many wouldn't even want fight for it and rules are self-serving and would sell each other...

[Master Warder Z_]

I never said mages had unlimited power. It'd be kinda hard to lock 'em up if that were the case.

 

I'm talking about a nation of powerful blood mages and how they would be damn near impossible to take out unless their enemy had similar or comparable power.

 

And yet that Horde of tribesmen and clans did just that.

 

The Imperium doesn't control Thedas anymore.

[Hanako Ikezawa]

Physical strength means nothing to magic. A blood mage can force a warrior to slit his own throat with a simple gesture. His muscle and martial ability will be useless.

 

Vast numbers mean nothing when your enemy can make your army turn upon itself. Whatever armed force that you field against Tevinter can instead become an armed force that they field against YOU.

 

Gunpowdwer and poison gas are quite formidable but again when your enemy has mind control powers even these weapons can be turned against you.

 

Oh man I didn't even mention the Dreamer type mages! There are freakin' FREDDY KRUGER MAGES! How do you beat that?!

Well, the Qunari also have the Qamek, a poison gas that turns enemies against each other.

[Lulupab]

And yet that Horde of tribesmen and clans did just that.
 
The Imperium doesn't control Thedas anymore.

 
The chantry itself says maker himself aided them in war. It made Tevinter crops to die and they starved. The land scorched and burned etc...
 
So no.
 
We could speculate it was the blight because you know its a BLIGHT.

[dzs Angel]

If templars had potential to do that like mages in causing disasters well i would chop them and yep it justifies even simple "i don't like them" justifies that as well... i can see why peoples don't want another end of the world sponsored by mages...

Interesting, isn´t it.

[Treacherous J Slither]

And yet that Horde of tribesmen and clans did just that.

 

The Imperium doesn't control Thedas anymore.

 

 

They must've had blood mages with them. Makes no sense otherwise. None whatsoever.

[Divine Justinia V]

Color of it doesn't matter and there is little to talk about because we don't have any clear infomations about it so..

it was black

no it was golden

no it was already black

but noooo...

 

Well I just had a whole discussion on it, so, it doesn't really matter what you say since it already happened.

[TheKomandorShepard]

Interesting, isn´t it.

 

What is intersting because i don't recall templars causing blight?

[KaiserShep]

even simple "i don't like them" justifies that as well...

 

Lol...wat. If that's the case, I could justify setting a family's house on fire with them and their kids inside because they annoy me. Lousy neighbors! I'll show them!