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Zazzerka

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If TV has taught me anything, it's that The Netherlands has a "Marijuana and Coffee Shop" on every street corner, so that might be what he means,



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Lulupab

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What sort of freedom? The description of "I live in Netherlands" tells me nothing, since I don't live there. You still hasn't given a plain answer, which means you either don't know it yourself, or cannot narrow it down enough for simple description.

 

What Zazzerka said is true but that's only part of the freedom I had in mind. We allow as much as freedom as possible therefore things that simply make people high are not illegal. 



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What Zazzerka said is true but that's only part of the freedom I had in mind. We allow as much as freedom as possible therefore things that simply make people high are not illegal. 

Still too vague and tells nothing about the freedom, just a culture. Is it your terms of freedom in general or personal freedom? You seem to cannot distinguish it.



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If TV has taught me anything, it's that The Netherlands has a "Marijuana and Coffee Shop" on every street corner, so that might be what he means,

 

What the hell am I still doing in 'murica?



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What the hell am I still doing in 'murica?

 

Strange that you'd be willing to move. You must really love coffee.



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If TV has taught me anything, it's that The Netherlands has a "Marijuana and Coffee Shop" on every street corner, so that might be what he means,

 

Are you kidding me???????????? Ugh I'm so jealous


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renfrees

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Well, guess i knew more than some in the end :D



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Hanako Ikezawa

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Why do you wish for this instead of the Seekers just being corrupt in general?

Because people prefer that a group is not deemed evil from top to bottom, just like how you want the mages to not all be painted as blood mages plotting world domination.


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Hanako Ikezawa

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And I said "freedom" is different in each society. For example mages have very limited to no freedom. They are fancy slaves, slaves with good clothing, nice meals and a decent place to stay but with no freedom whatsoever.

 

I live in Netherlands and its free as it gets, Its not the freedom but its good enough. Anything less than that is not freedom in my opinion. That is how I see it. If i was a political leader I'd see to it that everyone had this sort of freedom especially people live who in places like Iran.

I really wouldn't say mages are slaves. Prisoners sure, but not slaves. As long as they follow the rules, mages can pursue what they want in the Circle while slaves aren't even given that much.



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Sounds like your kind of place, TKS. :P

Well im not big fan living with abomnations that will burn world including me neither is fun and it is bad for business :whistle: 



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Hanako Ikezawa

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Well im not big fan living with abomnations that will burn world including me neither is fun and it is bad for business :whistle:

I'm talking about more the Social Darwinism aspect over the abomination aspect.



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I'm talking about more the Social Darwinism aspect over the abomination aspect.

 

Well not necessarily i have just opinion that if something is obstacle for me and i can't use it to benefit myself it dies ^_^ weak or strong doesn't matter im that what matters... if making weak happy will be beneficial i don't mind if burning orphanage is benefical i don't mind as well.



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Lulupab

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Still too vague and tells nothing about the freedom, just a culture. Is it your terms of freedom in general or personal freedom? You seem to cannot distinguish it.

 

I'm not going to make you explore Netherlands culture. Its up to you.

 

My terms of freedom is very similar to my country's. Maybe I'm lucky but this answers your question as my terms of freedom is the same as my countries so I don't need to distinguish it as its the same thing.



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Hanako Ikezawa

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Well not necessarily i have just opinion that if something is obstacle for me and i can't use it to benefit myself it dies ^_^ weak or strong doesn't matter im that what matters... if making weak happy will be beneficial i don't mind if burning orphanage is benefical i don't mind as well.

And this is why I sincerely pray you never get a job in a position of authority in real life.


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TheKomandorShepard

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And this is why I sincerely pray you never get a job in a position of authority in real life.

 

And you think that others who are in such positions are nice and dandy?

Well you would be disappointed :P 



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And this is why I sincerely pray you never get a job in a position of authority in real life.

You don't need to do that.

 

He or she doesn't mean a word of it.

 

It's a fantasy that is only capable of existing on forums, video games, and other such mediums. In other words, worlds with no consequences for actions and no requirements for competence.


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And you think that others who are in such positions are nice and dandy?

Well you would be disappointed :P

 

There is definitely no place for chaotic evil in any real life authority. It cannot be evil but I suppose lawful evil authorities exist.


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There is definitely no place for chaotic evil in any real life authority. It cannot be evil but I suppose lawful evil authorities exist.

 

If we put d&d alignment onto our world (which is rather out of place) every type of alignment would be authoritie but not every type of person from certain alignments would be one.

 

lawful evil doesn't mean that you have to be ruler and doesn't mean that you have to be "good" ruler and chaotic evil doesn't force you to be savage...



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chaotic evil doesn't force you to be savage...

 

I never got past the first Act of BG, but I could swear that's the whole idea of chaos, and that "chaotic evil" was the alignment of undead, orcs and Vegans.



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You don't need to do that.

 

He or she doesn't mean a word of it.

 

It's a fantasy that is only capable of existing on forums, video games, and other such mediums. In other words, worlds with no consequences for actions and no requirements for competence.

I sincerely hope so. 



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I never got past the first Act of BG, but I could swear that's the whole idea of chaos, and that "chaotic evil" was the alignment of undead, orcs and Vegans.

well partly it is true but that only type and mostly thats low intelligence CE and many players think that chaotic evil means stupid evil...



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Lulupab

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well partly it is true but that only type and mostly thats low intelligence CE and many players think that chaotic evil means stupid evil...

There is no Chaotic evil authority in our world. I never said it stupidity.



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How can you have "high intelligence chaotic evil?" Do they compose great works of literature using the blood of their enemies?



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There is no Chaotic evil authority in our world. I never said it stupidity.

 

There is no chaotic evil community in our world well not in democratic societies and chaotic evil person is another matter but i still think idea of alignment is real world is silly... it fits only in fiction :whistle: but as i said you can be chaotic evil policeman and lawful evil criminalist...

 

 

 

How can you have "high intelligence chaotic evil?" Do they compose great works of literature using the blood of their enemies?

 

For example high intelligent chaotic evil is joker but he isn't sane person he is 1 type of chaotic evil . Another type of CE is sarevok who was playing in politics in not chaotic evil society playing good guy and also was very intelligent but you know then hero comes and destroy villain :whistle:



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I'm not going to make you explore Netherlands culture. Its up to you.

 

My terms of freedom is very similar to my country's. Maybe I'm lucky but this answers your question as my terms of freedom is the same as my countries so I don't need to distinguish it as its the same thing.

And what is your country's freedom? Describe it - plain and simple. Don't hide behind vague descriptions.