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[TheKomandorShepard]

War solves everything

[Divine Justinia V]

I would just like to say I am disappointed I missed out on some of these side discussions. I'm afraid I was busy dreaming about being a Jedi, so you all had to wait.

 

I was dreaming about boys, but yeah same for me

[EmissaryofLies]

War, what is it good for?

[Divine Justinia V]

Absolutely NOTHING

[dzs Angel]

War, what is it good for?

Absolutely nothing

[dzs Angel]

This

[AresKeith]

War, what is it good for?

The War Economy

(Somebody better get this reference)

[Divine Justinia V]

The War Economy

(Somebody better get this reference)

 

MGS ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

[TheKomandorShepard]

War, what is it good for?

 

to achieve certain goals? do destroy peoples that want destroy you?To settle your own system? to earn the respect? To show you are stronger? and 1000 other reasons that we have wars

[TheKomandorShepard]

Mostly though it's an excuse for old fat guys to profit off of $640 toilet seats.

 

Well war have many profits even if you are smart and wars aren't started for fun just to achieve goal

[TheKomandorShepard]

Cool. Hoorah. And all that.

 

But mostly, it's about toilet seats.

 

If you think so you call

[Master Warder Z_]

MassEffect proves you wrong. They have an considereable amount of experience, when it comes to replacing characters because of different outcomes of the story.

 

Rachni Queen - Rachni Abomination

Mordin Solus - Padok Wilks

Female Krogan lives - Female Krogan dies

Urdnot Wrex - Urdnot Wreav

Ashley - Kaidan

etc. 

 

Dragon Age Origins proves you wrong as well:

 

Elves - Werewolves

Mages - Templars

Bhelen - Harrowmont

Alistair - Loghain

 

None of those choices are anywhere near the scope as basic in game class presentation.

 

These are faction and character options that may or may not get a line of dialogue and a quest appearance in sequels.

 

I'd not say either of those series "proving" me wrong of anything.

[dzs Angel]

Why? The circle quest is just a minor part of Dragon Age Origins. DA 4, Da 5, etc. could be about Qunari, the next Blight, the Architect, the Grey Wardens, war between orlais and ferelden, war between orlais and nevarra. There is absolutely no reason why the abscence of templars or mages should have a major impact on future storylines.

 

Edit:

 

Most people would like this struggle to end, at least if their faction is able to win the war. And this continued fight about mages and templars is most tiresome.

[Dean_the_Young]

It's more that drastically changing a major foundation of the setting also prevents you from relying on that basis again, and the Templars and Chantry are international in scope. Unlike in DAO, which just pushed a general region out of future games for the foreseeable future, the Circle system isn't so easy to ignore. It's a pretty important part of the social fabric everywhere else in Thedas bar a few small exceptions.

[Master Warder Z_]

Why? The circle quest is just a minor part of Dragon Age Origins. DA 4, Da 5, etc. could be about Qunari, the next Blight, the Architect, the Grey Wardens, war between orlais and ferelden, war between orlais and nevarra. There is absolutely no reason why the abscence of templars or mages should have a major impact on future storylines.

 

Edit:

 

Most people would like this struggle to end, at least if their faction is able to win the war. And this continued fight about mages and templars is most tiresome.

 

Because if you think about it, anything beyond a middle ground solution will have far reaching actions.

 

Free unregulated Mages? Do you think that could appear in a world state while at the same time you have Mages within a circle? Or hordes of possessed mages running about the countryside?

 

This issue is less about factions then it is notions and idea's and those ideas will be present in the future sequels of the game, its just that simple.

 

Its why Bioware won't make entirely alien, inescapable decisions for the same of redundancy for the sequels. It just impacts on how Mage PC's and their kind are treated on several levels, not mentioning if the war was even won or not.

[dzs Angel]

That's the case with DAO, but things changed with Hawke and Asunder, I think.

 

Not to say the next game is about a Templar/Mage war specifically though. To be honest, I think the Veil thing will be such a threat that it'd be retarded for people not to get along for once. Much like Mass Effect's Reapers.

Excactly, Da 2 failed, so why should every decision be centered about its plotline? We started out as wardens, now we´re the inquisition, why bother with the mage templar war anymore?

[Master Warder Z_]

Excactly, Da 2 failed, so why should every decision be centered about its plotline? We started out as wardens, now we´re the inquisition, why bother with the mage templar war anymore?

 

Because it's a part of the current story arc and will be present whether you like it or not?

[EmissaryofLies]

That's the case with DAO, but things changed with Hawke and Asunder, I think.

 

Not to say the next game is about a Templar/Mage war specifically though. To be honest, I think the Veil thing will be such a threat that it'd be retarded for people not to get along for once. Much like Mass Effect's Reapers.

 

 

One can only hope they've written the veil storyline appropriately. Don't think a lot of people want to be stuck holding hands for 50 hours.

[dzs Angel]

It's more that drastically changing a major foundation of the setting also prevents you from relying on that basis again, and the Templars and Chantry are international in scope. Unlike in DAO, which just pushed a general region out of future games for the foreseeable future, the Circle system isn't so easy to ignore. It's a pretty important part of the social fabric everywhere else in Thedas bar a few small exceptions.

That´s excactly my point. Most people in thedas are andrastians like most people in the real world are christians. We don´t miss witch hunts, inquisitions, etc., we believe in a god, that´s it. So why should people in thedas miss the templars?

Because if you think about it, anything beyond a middle ground solution will have far reaching actions.

 

Free unregulated Mages? Do you think that could appear in a world state while at the same time you have Mages within a circle? Or hordes of possessed mages running about the countryside?

 

This issue is less about factions then it is notions and idea's and those ideas will be present in the future sequels of the game, its just that simple.

 

Its why Bioware won't make entirely alien, inescapable decisions for the same of redundancy for the sequels. It just impacts on how Mage PC's and their kind are treated on several levels, not mentioning if the war was even won or not.

Of course it could happen. Take Orzammer for example. There is a huge difference between choosing Bhelen or Harrowmont, but the dwarfs are up and runnig either way.