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[Grieving Natashina]

Because of the Veil tear, I expect many tranquil will suddenly become mages again.

Ooh, I never thought of that.  Now that could be interesting to see play out.  From what I've read on the forums, turning someone back from being Tranquil can have a rather bi-polar affect on them.  With all the emotions coming back at once, I can see some freaking out going on.  However, I can't see this always being a good thing.  And not just because of an emotional meltdown that some are sure to have.  

 

What about the people that voluntarily become Tranquil?  I'm not getting too deep into the codex that talks about it, simply because an 11 yr old girl even in a medieval society should not have the power to decide that.   Read the codex; she was 11 years old and apparently that's old enough to make such a huge decision.  Fine, whatever game.  It sits very poorly with me, but it's not my world.  In some areas, I have to let it go.

 

Yet, I can say with some certainty that there is adults that glad choose that option.  I feel rather bad for them, if they choose to stop being mages.  Hell, it seems like some would do it for a decent night sleep!  Talk about a blessing for some and a curse for others.

[Divine Justinia V]

Isn't Pharamond in Asunder an example?

 

Yeah but that took a couple of mages (one of them that's pretty damn strong) to not only complete but rescue him from the Fade.

[Master Warder Z_]

Maybe.

 

I was more thinking of giving the Chantry what it wants so badly. Give them Tevinter. Become the monster and devour them.

 

Well if nothing else you will justify that what they did for the prior thousand years was the correct course of action as it prevented it from occurring in Thedas until now.

 

There is that

[KainD]

I don't understand the comparison given Tranquility is far sight better then death.

 

Subjective. I would personally die any day over becoming a tranquil. 

[Divine Justinia V]

Subjective. I would personally die any day over becoming a tranquil. 

 

Definitely.

[Iron Fist]

Yeah but pharamond says it was a complex process and I think he even used lyrium.

 

I doubt it has to be the same process each time. Perhaps, it can be refined. Less or different resources.

[Grieving Natashina]

Ok WZ and Nat if you too don't cut out this civil idiocy I am gonna accuse one of you of being under the thrall of a blood mage.

Unlikely, considering he (IC) is a Templar and I'm (IC) a rogue.   It might help that I'm more of a sneaky-sneaky type versus a robe.  Now if I identified as a mage, then your comment might have merit.  

 

 

Definitely.

Aye, same here.  

[Divine Justinia V]

I doubt it has to be the same process each time. Perhaps, it can be refined. Less or different resources.

 

I think it depends on the mage in question and possibly his willpower/strength.

[EmissaryofLies]

Well if nothing else you will justify that what they did for the prior thousand years was the correct course of action as it prevented it from occurring in Thedas until now.

 

There is that

 

Very true.

 

But by the point where both sides are enacting "solutions", that ship will have sailed.

[wcholcombe]

Well if nothing else you will justify that what they did for the prior thousand years was the correct course of action as it prevented it from occurring in Thedas until now.

 

There is that

 

 

Subjective. I would personally die any day over becoming a tranquil. 

 

 

Definitely.

As I know neither how it feels to be dead or tranquil, I don't feel I have any basis to judge by.

 

However, I can say that if being dead is seasing to exist and tranquil is existence without emotion.....I might choose tranquility, but than again I might not.

[KainD]

As I know neither how it feels to be dead or tranquil, I don't feel I have any basis to judge by.

 

However, I can say that if being dead is seasing to exist and tranquil is existence without emotion.....I might choose tranquility, but than again I might not.

 

Merely existing is worth nothing. It's pointless and detrimental. 

[Divine Justinia V]

As I know neither how it feels to be dead or tranquil, I don't feel I have any basis to judge by.

 

However, I can say that if being dead is seasing to exist and tranquil is existence without emotion.....I might choose tranquility, but than again I might not.

 

You're right, none of us know (and I hope we never have to), but from how Karl and Pharamond describe it, I'd like to avoid it at all costs.

Ceasing to exist sounds much, much appealing to me.

[Grieving Natashina]

Merely existing is worth nothing. It's pointless and detrimental. 

I'd rather die with all of my personality intact then become a content but passionless person.

[wcholcombe]

I doubt it has to be the same process each time. Perhaps, it can be refined. Less or different resources.

 

 

I think it depends on the mage in question and possibly his willpower/strength.

But we don't even know if Pharamonds process survived his death.  It is possible Rhys learned it but I doubt it.  I also doubt the mages got notes on the process when they fled the tower.  It is entirely possible that it was a plot device from Asunder that we won't revisit.

[renfrees]

What do you think about Arcane Warriors, Dreamers, Keepers, etc. I would like to know, because i almost always play a elven mage or rogue.

While i'm not radical on mages and believe the Circle system needs reformation, i'm firm in belief that the Dreamers must be hunt down the moment they reveal themselves. That power is too... terrifying. That's why Feynriel never lives past Night Terrors in my PTs. Setting young untrained Dreamer with already tortured mind loose in Tevinter? Yeah, about that..

[dzs Angel]

 

Unlikely, considering he (IC) is a Templar and I'm (IC) a rogue.   It might help that I'm more of a sneaky-sneaky type versus a robe.  Now if I identified as a mage, then your comment might have merit.  

 

 

Aye, same here.  

 

Indeed it would

[Divine Justinia V]

But we don't even know if Pharamonds process survived his death.  It is possible Rhys learned it but I doubt it.  I also doubt the mages got notes on the process when they fled the tower.  It is entirely possible that it was a plot device from Asunder that we won't revisit.

 

I hope it's not.

Maybe Justinia had more than one person working on it?

It'd be nice to see different outcomes with that and how it affects things. Maybe Anders got a hold of it and he's undoing multiple Tranquils a day.

[Master Warder Z_]

Merely existing is worth nothing. It's pointless and detrimental. 

 

According to whom?

 

Many fictional characters have given up their bodies, souls, minds, emotions and much more to achieve prolonged existence.

 

Longevity is something that is occaisonally has merit in and of it self.

[Iron Fist]

Ceasing to exist sounds much, much appealing to me.

 

The thought of you ceasing to exist.....

[EmissaryofLies]

I know exactly what choice I'd make.

 

https://www.youtube....xpeyLOECgI#t=76

[wcholcombe]

I'd rather die with all of my personality intact then become a content but passionless person.

 

 

You're right, none of us know (and I hope we never have to), but from how Karl and Pharamond describe it, I'd like to avoid it at all costs.

Ceasing to exist sounds much, much appealing to me.

 

 

Merely existing is worth nothing. It's pointless and detrimental. 

From a purely selfish idea sure.  However, there are several loved ones that have passed that I would rather still have around even if they were rather emotionless.  Actually some of em I might have preferred emotionless.  I can imagine give the choice my daughter would rather me be around and extremely mellow than not around at all.

 

Just saying it isn't quite as simple as the I would rather be dead than emotionless.  Guess I am getting a little too deep and real though

[KainD]

Setting young untrained Dreamer with already tortured mind loose in Tevinter? Yeah, about that..

 

Best decisions I've made in DA2. 

[Master Warder Z_]

 

Unlikely, considering he (IC) is a Templar and I'm (IC) a rogue.   It might help that I'm more of a sneaky-sneaky type versus a robe.  Now if I identified as a mage, then your comment might have merit.  

 

You know the Templars employ rogues as well as Warriors right?

 

...You could be a Templar even if you choose to put on the lighter armor and forgo the shield in favor of daggers or a bow.

 

 I want some of that red templar armor from SAO by the way, stuff looked boss.

[Grieving Natashina]

While i'm not radical on mages and believe the Circle system needs reformation, i'm firm in belief that the Dreamers must be hunt down the moment they reveal themselves. That power is too... terrifying. That's why Feynriel never lives past Night Terrors in my PTs. Setting young untrained Dreamer with already tortured mind loose in Tevinter? Yeah, about that..

I'm far too curious to see if Feynriel's story is going to affect the game down the road.  I'm not holding my breath, but it's one of those options I leave open just in case.  That's just too interesting to me to just end right there.  I will admit that the quest in Act 3 (where you have to track down a girl) where the lady says her love managed to mindf*ck a bunch of bandits and had them kill each other was disconcerting. 

[AresKeith]

According to whom?

 

Many fictional characters have given up their bodies, souls, minds, emotions and much more to achieve prolonged existence.

 

Longevity is something that is occaisonally has merit in and of it self.

 

It's kinda pointless to have this discussion with him