Yep, a fact a lot of the more stubborn pro-Mage crowd seems to forget.
It's not that they forget, they just don't care and the opinions of those people are invalid. They know they wouldn't want it, and believe it would be a mercy to die instead, and project that on others.
Personally I pin Anders' killing of Karl under 'murder' rather than mercy, but then I grew up closer to people with special needs than most people and consider the views of such a person on their own existence valid.
Nat i like your Churchill quote very amusing.
Also I should add that the First Enchanter has to agree to it before a Mage needs to made tranquil, unless it's blood mage or a mage asks for it
On paper that is another true statement.
Some want to be tranquil because possession and death seem worse to them. I don't blame them. Being non-tranquil sounds better than tranquil, but tranquil at least allows you to experience life more before you die, which will be the inevitable result. Possession is not no longer an experience of life, as you take a backseat while someone else drives. Tranquility is kind of like that, but it is still your personal decisions... I think... Ya, that Karl part threw me off a bit, but he was forced, so probably not the same as someone who chooses to be tranquil, someone who rejects rather than embraces.
Personally i think it quite sad they do.
Personally I think it's quite funny. Like a Lion going to the dentist and asking to remove all the fangs, brainwashed by a bunch of gazelle.
Can't the Chantry override it though? I thought they could go over a First Enchanter's head if they felt the situation is pressing enough? Or is that just my misinformed head cannon? A big reason why I'm on the Story forums is to learn more, so please don't take my questions as sarcasm.
Erm i don't know actually, i think the Chantry could authorize the rite it self if the mage in question was a danger or some such even with out Enchanter approval.
That's one situation we don't know about though.
Nat i like your Churchill quote very amusing.
There's a couple of posters that inspired me adding that. I'm not naming names, but since you and I haunt the same threads, you can probably guess at least one of them.
Erm i don't know actually, i think the Chantry could authorize the rite it self if the mage in question was a danger or some such even with out Enchanter approval.
That's one situation we don't know about though.
Huh, I actually asked a decent question for once. However, I'm inclined to agree you on this one. I'm betting the Chantry does have authority to go over a First Enchanter if they think a Rite (or whatever) is pressing enough.
Can't the Chantry override it though? I thought they could go over a First Enchanter's head if they felt the situation is pressing enough? Or is that just my misinformed head cannon? A big reason why I'm on the Story forums is to learn more, so please don't take my questions as sarcasm.
You're thinking of Anullment, where the First Enchanter doesn't get a veto and survivors are made tranquil. We have no known sanctioned cases of tranquility occuring without the First Enchanter's consent.
Yep, a fact a lot of the more stubborn pro-Mage crowd seems to forget.
One time I heard someone call those Mages brainwashed and totally dismissed them
Can't the Chantry override it though? I thought they could go over a First Enchanter's head if they felt the situation is pressing enough? Or is that just my misinformed head cannon? A big reason why I'm on the Story forums is to learn more, so please don't take my questions as sarcasm.
Chantry law forbids them from performing the Rite without provocation and the agreement of the First Enchanter
Pfffff you're getting ready to make me Tranquil as we speak
Nah, the outcome would be more like in the Qun (with you occupying the saarebas role and me occupying the arvaarad role). 
Personally I think it's quite funny. Like a Lion going to the dentist and asking to remove all the fangs, brainwashed by a bunch of gazelle.
Except that analogy isn't comparable at all to a Mage/Tranquil discussion.
There's a couple of posters that inspired me adding that. I'm not naming names, but since you and I haunt the same threads, you can probably guess at least one of them.
Huh, I actually asked a decent question for once. However, I'm inclined to agree on this one. I'm betting the Chantry does have authority to go over a First Enchanter if they think a Rite (or whatever) is pressing enough.
You want hear one of my favored quotes?
Except that analogy isn't comparable at all to a Mage/Tranquil discussion.
I'm talking about the mages that think that being a mage is a curse and that becoming tranquil is a solution.
Which is objectively more oppressive, tranquility or bondage in the Qun?
It cannot be objective without reference to the faith. While we can argue, that the bondage could be escaped, the Qunari themselves do not see it as oppression, but a burden of their role/purpose. They do not wish to escape it, if they want to stay in the Qun.
Depends if it'd be urban or rural establishment.
The society, guidlines, politics, possible allies
It's not that they forget, they just don't care and the opinions of those people are invalid.
The opinions of those people ARE valid, but it doesn't mean that I should care.
I'm talking about the mages that think that being a mage is a curse and that becoming tranquil is a solution.
I don't discount that line of reasoning such as you though, so obviously we wouldn't agree about it.
The opinions of those people ARE valid, but it doesn't mean that I should care.
Good point.
Personally I think it's quite funny. Like a Lion going to the dentist and asking to remove all the fangs, brainwashed by a bunch of gazelle.
See like I said, they'll call them brainwashed and dismiss them
I'm talking about the mages that think that being a mage is a curse and that becoming tranquil is a solution.
Being a Mage is both a blessing and a curse
Being a Mage is both a blessing and a curse
I don't see the curse side.
The society, guidlines, politics, possible allies
I cannot say that without knowing the terms on which they would merge with city elves. It'd be baseless speculation.
Yeah, sorry Kain but I think that's way overkill. I don't think Tranquil lack free will. I do think that they seem brainwashed because they don't strive for more in life anymore. They are content to be where they are. Creepy? I think so, but I wouldn't call that brainwashed. If all your passions were gone tomorrow, most would probably be just fine staying where it's familiar and working with people that they know will protect them.
I don't see the curse side.
The curse side is probably the demon bit.
Other than that, it's a pure blessing.
I don't see the curse side.
People are hostile and oppressive towards you. Spirits and demons want to assume your form. 
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