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I fully expect DAI to not end the mage/templar war, and then a Qunari invasion for force against the two sides to stop fighting. It'd ****** off a lot of people though.

 

I expect DAI to perhaps offer a few chances to work for either faction against the other, maybe even participate in a battle if they so desire but i doubt it will be resolved within DAI.

 

I'd expect the conflict to carry over into the sequel game.



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I fully expect DAI to not end the mage/templar war, and then a Qunari invasion for force against the two sides to stop fighting. It'd ****** off a lot of people though.

 

That would be a good thing, imo

 

I'm also one of those people who say anybody who choosing one side on the war should get a negative outcome  ;)



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Although they may have been a less authority now with out the Templars in their corner.

 

Eh, at least their resources can be more focused on other important matters. Like education, sponsoring research, caring for the sick, homeless, and orphans, etc.

 

Edit: Honestly, this Templar rebellion thing and Circle breaking away sounds like a good thing for the Chantry imo. The nations can control their own circles or a new international system will be in place to govern the Circles (doubtful, but maybe). So, the Chantry doesn't have to use up so many resources on it all and spread out too thin, they do a lot even without funding the Circle. So, bigger budget for education and local chantries.



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I fully expect DAI to not end the mage/templar war, and then a Qunari invasion for force against the two sides to stop fighting. It'd ****** off a lot of people though.

I'd enjoy it.   It sounds like a great way to either go into DLCs or for future games.



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There will be a way to hurt them.

 

Only if Bioware allows it, And not because a few fans demand it.

 

They may like having a central human institution in Thedas.

 

You know something for most if not all of them to get behind.

 

Its certainly a convenient plot point if nothing else.



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Eh, at least their resources can be more focused on other important matters. Like education, sponsoring research, caring for the sick, homeless, and orphans, etc.

I fully agree...

 

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With caution.  B)


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That remains to be seen.
 
It may or may not happen.
 
It is most certaintly possible and will more than likely be allowed to happen sooner or later.
 
If not directly, indirectly. There will be a way to hurt them.

 
The only ways I can see this happening are: canonically forced on the player, or a choice in the final game.
 

I expect DAI to perhaps offer a few chances to work for either faction against the other, maybe even participate in a battle if they so desire but i doubt it will be resolved within DAI.
 
I'd expect the conflict to carry over into the sequel game.

I agree. As for now I doubt the war will end in DAI. 

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@Warder

 

Hopefully they will. and they can also stand to make another central human institution.

 

 

The notion of the Chantry walking away scott free from all that they've done. It almost makes me ill.


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That would be a good thing, imo
 
I'm also one of those people who say anybody who choosing one side on the war should get a negative outcome  ;)

I'll be fine as long as I can follow a middle/third path and I'm not railroaded in allying with one side. If the war won't end now I don't see why we shouldn't be able to convince them to stop fighting and focus on the world-threatening event.

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To be fair, wouldn't you say that a 1000 yr old system splitting and splintering all over the place is a start with the comeuppance?  

 

Only if we are able to see the end of that conflict.

Mages would regret destroying the chantry if it ended up making it easier for the Qunari to conquer & take control. Being unable to leave a circle wouldn't seem as terrible then compared to how Qunari treat their mages.

 

Oh yes it would. BTW: The mages would fight the Qunari, they don´t need the chantry to do it.

Mages so far haven't show any signs of desire to destroy the Chantry. Pro-mages on the forum had, but that's a completely different issue.
Mages should be morons to try to destroy the Chantry. It'd be a good move to lead the various countries against them.

I bet most countries would love to see the chantry fall, if Orlais would go down with it. No more occupationnal forces, no exalted marches against their country if they disagree with Orlais.

 

I fully expect DAI to not end the mage/templar war, and then a Qunari invasion for force against the two sides to stop fighting. It'd ****** off a lot of people though.

You got that right ;)


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I'll be fine as long as I can follow a middle/third path and I'm not railroaded in allying with one side. If the war won't end now I don't see why we shouldn't be able to convince them to stop fighting and focus on the world-threatening event.

 

I'm atleast 80% sure Bioware won't force us to choose a side and take a middle ground path



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@Warder
 
Hopefully they will. and they can also stand to make another central human institution.
 
 
The notion of the Chantry walking away scott free from all that they've done. It almost makes me ill.

The Imperium is still alive (sort of) despite their terrible actions. Do you have a problem with them too?
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I fully agree...

 

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With caution.  B)

 

Ha, didn't think about that, guess it does make me look like a darkspawn sympathizer.



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The Imperium is still alive (sort of) despite their terrible actions. Do you have a problem with them too?

 

Of course I do.

 

Given that we haven't even seen it and the White Chantry is all up in our grill for two games and several books, they tend to not take precedence whenever I use the word "chantry".



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@Warder

 

Hopefully they will. and they can also stand to make another central human institution.

 

 

The notion of the Chantry walking away scott free from all that they've done. It almost makes me ill.

Revenge for centuries of enslavement. Remember the roman empire.


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Ha, didn't think about that, guess it does make me look like a darkspawn sympathizer.

Hehe, not to me.  I was just teasing you. ;)



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Of course I do.
 
Given that we haven't even seen it and the White Chantry is all up in our grill for two games and several books, they tend to not take precedence whenever I use the word "chantry".

Good to know.
As for the Chantry, I'm on the opinion the the mage/templar was won't end in DAI, so I'd say that they won't retain control of the mages. I don't think it'll be destroyed howewer.
I wonder how Bioware will handle the Inquisition's presence in Thedas after DAI though.

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Revenge for centuries of enslavement. Remember the roman empire.

 

Implying anyone was slaves



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Good to know.
As for the Chantry, I'm on the opinion the the mage/templar was won't end in DAI, so I'd say that they won't retain control of the mages. I don't think it'll be destroyed howewer.
I wonder how Bioware will handle the Inquisition's presence in Thedas after DAI though.

 

Most likely a Third Party organization to deal with Nation wide threats



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Implying anyone was slaves

 

Prisoners. 



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I wonder how Bioware will handle the Inquisition's presence in Thedas after DAI though.

 

 

 

Either the Inquisition will dissolve at the end of this game or the next, it will be a new international organization like the Grey Wardens but who regulate magic (as the tears in the Veil show that it does need some management), or it will become an underground group that pops up when needed.



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Prisoners. 

 

Not even truly prisoners 



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Good to know.
As for the Chantry, I'm on the opinion the the mage/templar was won't end in DAI, so I'd say that they won't retain control of the mages. I don't think it'll be destroyed howewer.
I wonder how Bioware will handle the Inquisition's presence in Thedas after DAI though.

 

The mage/templar conflict will carry on as a main underlying focus I suspect. As you said, a final quest from a final game may allot people to outright destroy the Chantry. Personally, I don't need to be Anders. I'd rather keep them around, powerless. Like the Patriarch from Mass Effect 2.

 

Edit: Read your last portion wrong.

 

Not sure, it will probably dissolve. As it stands now, the alliances will more than likely be fragile and people will naturally distrust each other. Until some sort of event causes them to work together more coherently and yadda yadda yadda, you've seen the movie. Then some sort of even will cause the factions to 'drift apart' with only one or two continuing to work together and form the foundation of Thedas authority.



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Prisoners. 

That´s like calling torture enhanced interogation


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The mage/templar conflict will carry on as a main underlying focus I suspect. As you said, a final quest from a final game may allot people to outright destroy the Chantry. Personally, I don't need to be Anders. I'd rather keep them around, powerless. Like the Patriarch from Mass Effect 2.
 
As for how they'll handle the Inquisitor, we know that he or she will be able to support or even recruit factions iirc with the choice being up to the player. The people will more than likely react differently to each Inquistor. Like a Dalish Mage or a Human Warrior. Though I don't believe that Bioware will go too far out of their way to underline the distinction as it relates to the narrative plot. Will probably involve a lot of hand holding and 'proving yourself' to win powerful people over, as always.

I was referring to how Bioware will handle the Inquisition after the end of DAI, on its role in Thedas.

Either the Inquisition will dissolve at the end of this game or the next, it will be a new international organization like the Grey Wardens but who regulate magic (as the tears in the Veil show that it does need some management), or it will become an underground group that pops up when needed.

I really hope it won't vanish. It wouldn't make sense.
Though I think the Inquisition's presence in southern Thedas, with All the problems in dealing with the different choices, might be a reason to go on the Northern part of the continent.