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[Grieving Natashina]

Alright, I will try.

 

"And what is wrong with not caring? It is up to the individual how she/he reacts to the world. If the individual want to socialize, his call. Same if she/he doesn't. And same on how the individual responds to actions of others."

Ah ha, thank you.  A weird and rather dark point, pretty typical for TKS.  

 

@TKS: That...didn't help either, but I think Hana got the gist of it communicated well enough.

 

What's wrong with not caring?  In a video game, nothing.  It's up to the player to decide if they wish to caree about the opinions of others.  If the options come up to be apathetic, cruel or worse, then I think the player should have those choices if they want it.

 

In our world?  I'm not going to broach the subject of morality.  Too subjective and the cause of too many fruitless debates, some of which have happened at few times in this very long thread.

[Hanako Ikezawa]

And what is wrong with not caring it is up to individual how s/he reacts to world if individual want socialize his call same if s/he doesn't and same how individual respond on actions of others.Oh someone is being self-righteous

So you respond to my telling some other people that thinking what they think is bad by telling me that thinking the way I think is bad?

[TheKomandorShepard]

Ah ha, thank you.  A weird and rather dark point, pretty typical for TKS.  

 

@TKS: That...didn't help either, but I think Hana got the gist of it communicated well enough.

 

Well it is as i said healthy point better live your own life than try live life of others and share their grim fate

 

 

So you respond to my telling some other people that thinking what they think is bad by telling me that thinking the way I think is bad?

Nope simple that there is no need to be self-righteous and if someone don't want help it is his call

[Grieving Natashina]

@TKS: We'll simply agree to disagree as to how healthy or unhealthy your way of thinking is versus my own.  As I said before, too subjective.  We both know that we won't see eye-to-eye with the other, so I'm going to just leave it at that.  Please do the same.

[Hanako Ikezawa]

Nope simple that there is no need to be self-righteous and if someone don't want help it is his call

To which you are acting self righteous by telling me to stop being self righteous. You have to see the irony here. 

[Lulupab]

Actually so far violence has solved everything in Thedas. 

[Grieving Natashina]

No offense, but the subject of real world morality never leads to a happy place.  Maybe we should get back to our usual debate?

[TheKomandorShepard]

@TKS: We'll simply agree to disagree as to how healthy or unhealthy your way of thinking is versus my own.  As I said before, too subjective.  We both know that we won't see eye-to-eye with the other, so I'm going to just leave it at that.  Please do the same.

 

Well depending what matter it is universal truth that such thinking for individual is healthy however it is unhealthy for society well take your call when what matters to you is up to you those how things work.  

 

 

To which you are acting self righteous by telling me to stop being self righteous. You have to see the irony here. 

I don't think that im morally superior as morality isn't my best friend point was show you that putting to same bag peoples who don't want help others to same bag with psychopaths or other suspicious elements is being self-righteous and everyone who isn't hero is evil.

 

 

 

 

No offense, but the subject of real world morality never leads to a happy place.  Maybe we should get back to our usual debate?

Is morality works differently in thedas?

 

 

Actually so far violence has solved everything in Thedas. 

 

violence solves everything if used  properly  

[Hanako Ikezawa]

No offense, but the subject of real world morality never leads to a happy place.  Maybe we should get back to our usual debate?

Yes, let's talk about fictional morality which also never leads to a happy place.

[Lulupab]

Is morality works differently in thedas?

 

 

Yes. If you are going to make a comparison to reality use medieval times not postmodern.

[Grieving Natashina]

Yes, let's talk about fictional morality which also never leads to a happy place.

It's a happier place than the mods coming in and locking this thread down and/or folks getting in trouble because it strayed too far into a RL debate.

 

I was mainly pointing out that fighting who's right and who's wrong over their mortality choices in a video game might be counterproductive to the thread topic.

[TheKomandorShepard]

Yes. If you are going to make a comparison to reality use medieval times not postmodern.

 

If used correctly it still solves everything world still runs on might makes right and peoples are still same perhaps just little more educated  

[Hanako Ikezawa]

I don't think that im morally superior as morality isn't my best friend point was show you that putting to same bag peoples who don't want help others to same bag with psychopaths or other suspicious elements is being self-righteous and everyone who isn't hero is evil.

To be fair, you think on the opposite end of the spectrum. Anyone who doesn't agree with your ideas is naive and foolish. You have to admit you've used these words on characters and even posters.

[Hanako Ikezawa]

It's a happier place than the mods coming in and locking this thread down and/or folks getting in trouble because it strayed too far in a RL fight.

Good point. I already got a warning earlier since a word that should have been censored didn't get censored. Four years of not a warning or profanity and I lose the former the first time I do the latter. 

[AresKeith]

Tbh, I kinda wanted Xil to reply to our last posts regarding Adrian

[Divine Justinia V]

Tbh, I kinda wanted Xil to reply to our last posts regarding Adrian

 

I appreciate Xil and his/her opinions but he/she stans too hard for Adrian.

[Lulupab]

If used correctly it still solves everything world still runs on might makes right and peoples are still same perhaps just little more educated

 

Well people traded wives and "terrorism" was an everyday thing on Medieval times.

 

It does not apply to reality right now therefore Thedas cannot be compared to postmodern reality.

[Grieving Natashina]

Good point. I already got a warning earlier since a word that should have been censored didn't get censored. Four years of not a warning or profanity and I lose the former the first time I do the latter. 

Yeah, I read about that.  Sorry to hear that.  

 

Here, from me to you:

 

[Hanako Ikezawa]

Yeah, I read about that.  Sorry to hear that.  

 

Here, from me to you:

 

Thanks. Yeah, I get it 50 months to the day of creating this profile. Still can't believe the f word is not censored. Considering how high it is on the profanity scale, I'd think that word and its variations would be on the top of the "Auto-Censor" list. 

[TheKomandorShepard]

To be fair, you think on the opposite end of the spectrum. Anyone who doesn't agree with your ideas is naive and foolish. You have to admit you've used these words on characters and even posters.

 

Of course i admit it if someone is naive or brings naive solution i tell that being naive have nothing to do with morality however it can have if both are connected.

 

 

Well people traded wives and "terrorism" was an everyday thing on Medieval times.

 

It does not apply to reality right now therefore Thedas cannot be compared to postmodern reality.

 

Well everything depends which aspect culture and technology may be different but things like might makes right and human nature always stayed unchanged.

[LobselVith8]

I appreciate Xil and his/her opinions but he/she stans too hard for Adrian.

Xil stands by her convictions, and I don't think there's anything wrong with her seeing a positive side to Adrian. As a fan of Merrill, I can relate to the frustration of some people thinking their opinion about a character is an indisputable fact. (No, that's not an invite to anyone for a Merrill debate).

At this point, I don't think Xil is inclined to engage in a debate over personal perspectives about Adrian. It's like Anders; people have drastically different views on who he was and what he did, and there's seldom a compromise in opinion when that view varies so drastically.

[Master Warder Z_]

Well Adrian and Anders did both murder people for their cause, you sort of invite such things when you do so.

[Xilizhra]

Tbh, I kinda wanted Xil to reply to our last posts regarding Adrian

There were three people saying the same thing, more or less, so I figured one reply would do the job. Anything beyond that and I was away from the forum to do other things.

 

 

I appreciate Xil and his/her opinions but he/she stans too hard for Adrian.

She, and Adrian needs someone to stand for her, after becoming a hate sink for... very dubious reasons.

[EmissaryofLies]

Ah yes, 'murder', a crime committed against figures in a DA narrative, oh, we have dismissed that claim.

 

They did not 'murder' anyone, they helped them. They set them free.

[wcholcombe]

Well haven't we been busy while I was gone.....Hmm best way to catch up without going overboad.

1) Treaty of versais was way too punitive, however, one could argue that is the price of doing business when you lose a war.

2) The politics of appeasement were poor form all the way around, however Baldwin had the prevailing sentiment of Europe at the time; "Those born on the day the last great war ended are just now old enough to die in the next one."

3) Tranquil have free will, the degree to which they use it is up for debate.

4) Adrian is a piece of garbage as wrong in her ways as Anders, Lambert, Meredith, Uldred.  Just because you agree with any of them doesn't change my opinion, you say freedom fighter or doing their duty, I say terrorist, lunatic, etc.

5) Trying to apply post modern morality to Thedas is an exercise in pointlessness.  Human rights only nominally exist if they do at all, most characters see no crime in killing someone they personally feel deserves it, and a great many things that we as a society today feel to be evil are practiced widespread if not downright celebrated.