durasteel wrote...
Rivain is, in most of its communities, matriarchal. The eldest women make the decisions regarding the welfare of these communities. Among these elderly women, the seers have seniority.
Nothing in that equates to being ruled by magic or mages.
"All decisions involving the welfare of most Rivaini communities rest solely with the eldest women. The most senior of these women are called seers, who freely practice magic."
All the decisions are made by mages does not equal being ruled by mages?
Right...
It sounds to me like the old ladies will always politely and respectfully listen to what the seer has to say before they make a decision by committee, but most of these old ladies will not be mages, and they still have a voice and a role in the decision making process.
No, you came up with that completely out of nowhere. There is nothing that even remotely indicates that in that quote.
Why don't we ask the rest of the forumites how they interpreted that quote?
I'm not seeing a problem. I guess you see justification for killing them all, though. You say you're not a religious person, but you do a great impersonation of one, I gotta tell you.
Social activism regarding social classes equals religion?
How? When? Why?
durasteel wrote...
Yes it does. Your argument hinges upon the ludicrous assumption that, against all indications, the Seers "rule" Rivain. Never mind that there is mundane nobility and royalty. Nevermind that the most important qualification to lead is being a woman, not being a mage. And never, ever mind that the Rivaini choose to follow the Seers, rather than being forced to do so.
1-The presence of different forms of society within the same nation does not change the fact Seers rule the more traditional parts of Rivain. World of Thedas makes that perfectly clear.
That's just like saying that because Northern Rivain is more Qunari, Southern can't be more Andrastian. It's nonsensical.
2-Incorrect. The most senior of women, those with whom all the decisions rest are mages. Therefore, one needs to be a woman and a mage in order to wield any political power in Rivain.
3-The basis of my argument is traditional Rivain society proves that without restrictions, mages become leaders. I never said this only happened through martial conquest and therefore, whether the Rivain are willing or not is 100% irrelevant to my original argument.
"Young man, bring me a cup of tea and a blanket for my feet. Hurry, or I shall turn you into a toad!" This is your idea of Rivain, and your answer is to butcher them. And that, amigo, is ludicrous.
What's ludicrous is that you keep repeating the whole "The Rivains want the Seers" despite me having already made clear that my original point is that mage freedom leads to mage dominance and that nowhere in that did I mention the willingness of the normal people.
I have already even said that Rivain and the Dalish are mostly a benevolent magocracy so, kindly stop claiming that I believe there is force being used.
And, honestly would it kill you to respond to everything at once rather than splitting a post into multiple ones?
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