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#6851
KainD

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Err, i don't think they'd find anything resembling a deer afterwards, in that case  :lol:

 

Oh, I know. They could use blood magic to control the deer, so it comes to them and stands still as they prepare a meal out of it!

Or set up paralyze glyphs as traps!



#6852
Lulupab

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Lol you assume there are deers in Free Marches which is the dump of Thedas where no one cares about.



#6853
KainD

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Lol you assume there are deers in Free Marches which is the dump of Thedas where no one cares about.

 

There's bound to be some wildlife around.. you know some Tal'Vashoth, farmers.. No but srsly, there should be some wildlife around. 



#6854
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After reading the preview of The Masked Empire in Amazon, I'm beginning to like Duke Gaspard's opinion of Templars and Mages: "A good war unites the empire. Maybe we can let those idiots in the Chantry and the Circle kill people outside our borders instead of inside them". The other option, that Celene herself was thinking about, was putting down both of them.

 

It's a nice change for once to hear some in-universe opinions in DA that aren't "mages are dangerous" or "templars are tyrants", but "both of them are freaking stupid and if they keep making trouble all of them will end in the gallows, period" :P



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After reading the preview of The Masked Empire in Amazon, I'm beginning to like Duke Gaspard's opinion of Templars and Mages: "A good war unites the empire. Maybe we can let those idiots in the Chantry and the Circle kill people outside our borders instead of inside them". The other option, that Celene herself was thinking about, was putting down both of them.

 

It's a nice change for once to hear some in-universe opinions in DA that aren't "mages are dangerous" or "templars are tyrants", but "both of them are freaking stupid and if they keep making trouble all of them will end in the gallows, period" :P

 

I've only seen the first part of the first chapter available. So Gaspard wants to utilize the warring factions to the benefit of the empire, while Celene wants to put them both down?



#6856
renfrees

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It's a normal political view on the situation, he'd be a fool not to use it to his benefits.



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Hellion Rex

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I've only seen the first part of the first chapter available. So Gaspard wants to utilize the warring factions to the benefit of the empire, while Celene wants to put them both down?

I didn't get that impression from Celene. She seemed to want to quell the fighting more than actually crush either group.



#6858
The Elder King

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I didn't get that impression from Celene. She seemed to want to quell the fighting more than actually crush either group.


Indeed. From what I understand a part of the nobility is forcing for a fight.

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Who cares about the masses? Already criminals, masses supported the circle for centuries. 

Tevinter thought the same then Andrastate happened. :P



#6860
Lulupab

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Tevinter thought the same then Andrastate happened. :P

 

Well the first blight that ravaged Tevinter for 250 years had much more role than Andraste but yeah...



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Maybe the Chantry should send the Templars on a trip to Belize, all expenses paid.


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#6862
Hellion Rex

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Maybe the Chantry should send the Templars on a trip to Belize, all expenses paid.

Yeah, just push them all through an Eluvian to our world! Then smash the mirror so they can't return.

 

:devil:



#6863
Lulupab

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Yeah, just push them all through an Eluvian to our world! Then smash the mirror so they can't return.

 

:devil:

 

And lock them up in rehab.



#6864
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Tevinter thought the same then Andrastate happened. :P

 

Tevinter endured. If it wasn't for Qunari they would be in an even better position. 



#6865
renfrees

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Every empire is bound to fall under its weight, leaving only pitiful remnants of its former glory.



#6866
Hellion Rex

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And lock them up in rehab.

Nope, nuke Belize!!!

:devil:

 

Edit: I kid, I kid.



#6867
KainD

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Well the first blight that ravaged Tevinter for 250 years had much more role than Andraste but yeah...

 

Tevinter was ravaged by blights, riots, multiple holy marches and Qunari. Tevinter is still standing. 


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#6868
Lulupab

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Nope, nuke Belize!!!

:devil:

 

Edit: I kid, I kid.

 

Haha! That would have made someone very happy

 

Spoiler



#6869
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Tevinter was ravaged by blights, riots, multiple holy marches and Qunari. Tevinter is still standing. 

And heading the way of Rome.



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And heading the way of Rome.

 

I think they are doing better than Rome did. 



#6871
renfrees

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Tevinter will crumble, have no doubt about it. At best they'd be like England right now.



#6872
KainD

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Tevinter will crumble, have no doubt about it. At best they'd be like England right now.

 

I'm not so sure. 



#6873
Lulupab

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And heading the way of Rome.

 

Well if you are comparing Tevinter to Rome you should know that eastern Roman empire (Byzantine) is better comparison as devs stated.

 

Many European, particularly eastern European counties hated Byzantine but as soon as it fell disaster fell upon Europe as Byzantine was a wall against Ottoman Empire and as soon as it fell so did most of eastern Europe. There are many similarities between Constantinople (today known as Istanbul) and Minrathous too.  

 

Tevinter is a wall against Qunari too. Because of Tevinter the Qunari have no foothold on mainland Thedas and don't have the element of surprise. they are literally held in check. During all these years no nation of Thedas has offended Tevinter least of all attack it because they know this. Its kinda the enemy of my enemy is my friend situation but instead of friend Tevinter is "necessary" atm. 



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Hellion Rex

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I'm not so sure. 

Indeed. If they do crumble, I don't think it would be happening any time soon.



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I'm all for crushing both sides :P