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#6951
Grieving Natashina

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Ah, no wonder I don't know it then. Won't touch that franchise with a ten and a half foot pole.

I almost did the same, because I was pretty frustrated with the fans constantly comparing the two games the big reason why I haven't gotten the ME games yet.  However, I just picked up the first one last night, because $10 seemed right.  I'll be playing it later on today.



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I almost did the same, because I was pretty frustrated with the fans constantly comparing the two games the big reason why I haven't gotten the ME games yet.  However, I just picked up the first one last night, because $10 seemed right.  I'll be playing it later on today.

 

Overall the Witcher games are quite good, with a few weird problems



#6953
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Overall the Witcher games are quite good, with a few weird problems

 

Combat is meh though. The story was the only thing kept me going. In my opinion anyway.



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Overall the Witcher games are quite good, with a few weird problems

The Witcher books are way better and deep.



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Combat is meh though. The story was the only thing kept me going. In my opinion anyway.

 

I would guess: I was told the the combat was bad and the story is the only thing you should play it for. 

So I didn't pick it up because my old dislike of the setting.



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The Witcher books are way better and deep.

 Ouch,  I didn't buy it because I hated the books, so different people different opinion I guess :D



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It's the most powerful country of The Witcher universe.

 

By far!

 

It's conquered over a dozen sovereign realms, Its now marching to war once again in the North :P

 

May the great white sun consume all!

 

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Do you know what Nilfgaard does to captive mages?

 

They parade them through Victory Square before they are drawn and quarted.

 

I think Orlais should embrace that little bit of trivia.

 

Wouldn't the potential of likely introducing an Abomination to a crowded public space make that rather dangerous?



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By far!

 

It's conquered over a dozen sovereign realms, Its now marching to war once again in the North :P

 

May the great white sun consume all!

 

That is a fairly blatant copy of the Vergina Sun, an icon found in the tombs of Aigai, in northern Greece, which is widely regarded to have been the heraldic emblem of the Argead kingdom of Makedonia. The armies of Philip and Alexander would have employed that blazon on their flags and shields.

 

I've never played the Witcher games, but if that symbol is in them, I'm vaguely distressed that the makers of the games would go so far as to directly copy Internet artwork of a real historical emblem for the game to be used in an entirely distinct context. It seems dirty, somehow.

 



Digging in the wiki I came across this line from codex:

 

"And yet the Imperium survives. Whether with sword or magic, Tevinter remains a force to be reckoned with. Minrathous has been besieged by men, by Qunari, by Andraste herself, and never fallen."

 

Interesting :)

 

There is a first time for everything. Perhaps there is a barrier effect, and that once that barrier is broken for the first time, subsequent efforts get easier and easier until, y'know, stuff like this happens.



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That is a fairly blatant copy of the Vergina Sun, an icon found in the tombs of Aigai, in northern Greece, which is widely regarded to have been the heraldic emblem of the Argead kingdom of Makedonia. The armies of Philip and Alexander would have employed that blazon on their flags and shields.

 

I've never played the Witcher games, but if that symbol is in them, I'm vaguely distressed that the makers of the games would go so far as to directly copy Internet artwork of a real historical emblem for the game to be used in an entirely distinct context. It seems dirty, somehow.

 


 

Historical symbols get copied into video games all the time.  It isn't uncommon or surprising.


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That is a fairly blatant copy of the Vergina Sun, an icon found in the tombs of Aigai, in northern Greece, which is widely regarded to have been the heraldic emblem of the Argead kingdom of Makedonia. The armies of Philip and Alexander would have employed that blazon on their flags and shields.

It's Macedonia, not Makedonia. Well, technically the nation itself is Macedon but when it became more the nation plus territories became known as Macedonia.



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Wouldn't the potential of likely introducing an Abomination to a crowded public space make that rather dangerous?

 

I never said what state they would be in before they arrived for execution, for one thing i doubt an abomination occurrence in all likelihood if you say, hacked off the hands, and feet of the abomination, Even if they were possessed, having a crippled vessel wouldn't do the demon any favors. 

 

See! You get to give the public entertainment and get rid of dangerous folk at the same time!

 

But the Witcher doesn't have to deal with possessions and all that of spirits more often then not, Mages aren't inherently more prone to possession there.



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I never said what state they would be in before they arrived for execution, for one thing i doubt an abomination occurrence in all likelihood if you say, hacked off the hands, and feet of the abomination, Even if they were possessed, having a crippled vessel wouldn't do the demon any favors. 

 

See! You get to give the public entertainment and get rid of dangerous folk at the same time!

 

But the Witcher doesn't have to deal with possessions and all that of spirits more often then not, Mages aren't inherently more prone to possession there.

 

And therefore are simply persecuted for the sake of being persecuted and prejudice and no logic behind it, not really. 



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I never said what state they would be in before they arrived for execution, for one thing i doubt an abomination occurrence in all likelihood if you say, hacked off the hands, and feet of the abomination, Even if they were possessed, having a crippled vessel wouldn't do the demon any favors. 

 

See! You get to give the public entertainment and get rid of dangerous folk at the same time!

 

But the Witcher doesn't have to deal with possessions and all that of spirits more often then not, Mages aren't inherently more prone to possession there.

So by far the best scenario for this would be for it to be a pride abomination, or another who could shapeshift. That scene would be magnificent, and one of the few times I could legitimately root for a demon.



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And therefore are simply persecuted for the sake of being persecuted and prejudice and no logic behind it, not really. 

 

._. Because Mage criminals don't exist?

 

And them being Mages magically make them exempt from all notions of law, morality and order?

 

 

So by far the best scenario for this would be for it to be a pride abomination, or another who could shapeshift. That scene would be magnificent, and one of the few times I could legitimately root for a demon.

 

No, by the best case scenario is, the criminal is brought before the crowd, shown to be no more then them, and then made to die for their crimes.

 

Its pretty simple in theory, execution and concept.



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No, by the best case scenario is, the criminal is brought before the crowd, shown to be no more then them, and then made to die for their crimes.

 

Its pretty simple in theory, execution and concept.

A scenario whose justice and sense of style are both woefully lacking.



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A scenario whose justice and sense of style are both woefully lacking.

 

I always thought public executions brought people together and gave them something to gawk at for a few minutes time, If nothing else it removes a danger to them.



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I always thought public executions brought people together and gave them something to gawk at for a few minutes time, If nothing else it removes a danger to them.

Which really says something about people when they see killing someone as a source of entertainment.



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Zathrian was bald so he doesn't count.



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._. Because Mage criminals don't exist?

 

And them being Mages magically make them exempt from all notions of law, morality and order?

 

 

 

No, but the way it was presented, Nilfgaard celebrates killing mages for the sake of killing captured mages. Not because they are criminals. 



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I always thought public executions brought people together and gave them something to gawk at for a few minutes time, If nothing else it removes a danger to them.

I will keep this in mind.



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No, but the way it was presented, Nilfgaard celebrates killing mages for the sake of killing captured mages. Not because they are criminals. 

 

That's an awful lot to draw from a singular comment done by Letho :P



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Which really says something about people when they see killing someone as a source of entertainment.

 

Humans like killing each other, and other things, there isn't much more to it then that.

 

Even now we see people "observing" executions, we just rationalize it modernly so it isn't "blood sport".



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I never said what state they would be in before they arrived for execution, for one thing i doubt an abomination occurrence in all likelihood if you say, hacked off the hands, and feet of the abomination, Even if they were possessed, having a crippled vessel wouldn't do the demon any favors. 

 

See! You get to give the public entertainment and get rid of dangerous folk at the same time!

 

But the Witcher doesn't have to deal with possessions and all that of spirits more often then not, Mages aren't inherently more prone to possession there.

 

Oh, I'm sure with all the hacking (I suppose they could even bite their tongue), it would give them plenty of pain and blood to rend the veil with, I mean, they might as well at that point. Then, even the crowd would get to participate!
 



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Oh, I'm sure with all the hacking (I suppose they could even bite their tongue), it would give them plenty of pain and blood to rend the veil with, I mean, they might as well at that point. Then, even the crowd would get to participate!
 

 

...Can they cast spells with a stump?

 

*Honestly asking here*