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[EmissaryofLies]

What of the wizard? What of the man in grey who brings the clouds to supper? You cannot simply say that the mages are in disarray. The mages can win the war with a combination of team spirit and reciprocity.

[Master Warder Z_]

Fear could easily be turned around on the Templars if the Mages won this war, so I guess you're right.

 

It was a Starwars joke ._.

 

And we all know the Circle returning is the only outcome of this war.

 

Sake of consistency in future titles, blah blah, did a much more detailed explanation of this line of thought earlier in the thread.

[TK514]

But how many of them were forced to fight without being asked or believing in this cause? You're assuming there's a great number, when we don't know the magnitude of the situation yet.

So you're suggesting that hoping to spare the innocent isn't worth the effort because we don't know exactly how many there are?

[Divine Justinia V]

It was a Starwars joke ._.

 

And we all know the Circle returning is the only outcome of this war.

 

Sake of consistency in future titles, blah blah, did a much more detailed explanation of this line of thought earlier in the thread.

 

Not at all, we don't know the outcome. Unless you've played the game already, and possibly the fourth installment, I'd love to hear your sources

[Master Warder Z_]

And remember how that fear helped out Tarkin? Speaking of, where is good ol' Tarkin now anyways?

 

Same place as the man who killed him

 

That's the thing about organic life, it all dies.

[Divine Justinia V]

So you're suggesting that hoping to spare the innocent isn't worth the effort because we don't know exactly how many there are?

 

I'm suggesting that you don't know how many mages believe in this and are fighting for their own personal cause. I'm suggesting that you're assuming your terms would even appeal to them. They all fear Tranquility, why would you think watching their leaders turn Tranquil would make them peaceful with you?

[MisterJB]

Were people arguing whether mages can cast spells without arms?

Well, in "The Calling" the Architect had this overpowered spell where he could burn people out of existence with black flames (pretty much Amaterasu). One Grey Warden slices his arm off and not onyl does the Architect never casts it again, he runs away imediatelly.

[EmissaryofLies]

I'm suggesting that you don't know how many mages believe in this and are fighting for their own personal cause. I'm suggesting that you're assuming your terms would even appeal to them. They all fear Tranquility, why would you think watching their leaders turn Tranquil would make them peaceful with you?

 

If the Kirkwall and Darismund annulments hadn't happened I could see his point. As of now? Such actions would make the conflict everlasting.

[Master Warder Z_]

Not at all, we don't know the outcome. Unless you've played the game already, and possibly the fourth installment, I'd love to hear your sources

 

Compromise will ultimately dictate the circle return, mages may or may not have more freedom in the restructured circle but it will return, unless if you think a universal shift in the Magic Para dime in DA is in the cards, which i don't.

 

It would be near impossible to feature the choice in future titles after all, if you had completely free and unregulated mages all through out the world in one world state and another with them back in the circle, or even another with the war still ongoing, either this plot point is DRASTICALLY going to shrink and become much less involved in DA, or else ultimately compromise will see both sides return to the status quo.

 

It isn't my take on the plot, its my time on how you implement choices in future titles in games, unless if you just WANT to dump oodles of resources into expanding all those multiple choices, which i doubt Bioware would given its a lot more work for them and little reason to do it besides to cater to a few people who admittedly would want this war fought to its closing day.

[KainD]

Were people arguing whether mages can cast spells without arms?

Well, in "The Calling" the Architect had this overpowered spell where he could burn people out of existence with black flames (pretty much Amaterasu). One Grey Warden slices his arm off and not onyl does the Architect never casts it again, he runs away imediatelly.

 

Yeah and Titus liked to stare Qunari to death:

[Hellion Rex]

Were people arguing whether mages can cast spells without arms?

Well, in "The Calling" the Architect had this overpowered spell where he could burn people out of existence with black flames (pretty much Amaterasu). One Grey Warden slices his arm off and not onyl does the Architect never casts it again, he runs away imediatelly.

Wait, WHAT? HE COULD CAST AMATERASU?!?!?

[Divine Justinia V]

If the Kirkwall and Darismund annulments hadn't happened I could see his point. As of now? Such actions would make the conflict everlasting.

 

And absolutely but it's far too gone now.

 

 

 

so basically what I got from that was, you haven't played the game(s) and you have no sources. Okie doke.

[Hellion Rex]

Yeah and Titus liked to stare Qunari to death:

Did we ever quite figure out what type of magic this is?

[MisterJB]

Titus was using Maric's blood, which is the blood of the Dragon (go away Daenerys), to power his spells. It wasn't a typical situation.

[EmissaryofLies]

The plot point will most definitely shrink in Inqisition at least. There's every reason to believe the mage/templar conflict will be an enduring theme until the very end.

[Hellion Rex]

Titus was using Maric's blood, which is the blood of the Dragon (go away Daenerys), to power his spells. It wasn't a typical situation.

Dragon enhanced blood magic. That is a truly scary thought.

[Master Warder Z_]

Wait, WHAT? HE COULD CAST AMATERASU?!?!?

 

Indeed, it killed the Warden Commander who recruited Duncan

 

 

so basically what I got from that was, you haven't played the game(s) and you have no sources. Okie doke.

 

You owe me a dollar if i turn out to be right

 

*Knows he is right already*

 

I'm god after all.

[MisterJB]

Fear will hold scrubs in check. Try to scare them:

I don't know. He seems pretty scared to me.

 

[KainD]

Titus was using Maric's blood, which is the blood of the Dragon (go away Daenerys), to power his spells. It wasn't a typical situation.

 

Semantics, he could use dragons blood spells with his hands, but he didn't. 

 

I just think that it's all up to the individual. If you are an awesome mage then you cast spells like a boss, but awesome mages are rare. 

[Master Warder Z_]

Titus was using Maric's blood, which is the blood of the Dragon (go away Daenerys), to power his spells. It wasn't a typical situation.

 

FIRE AND BLOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOD!

 

[Divine Justinia V]

You owe me a dollar if i turn out to be right

 

*Knows he is right already*

 

I'm god after all.

 

I promise I'll give you your stupid dollar if you're right

I can't imagine what use God would have for a single dollar though

[EmissaryofLies]

God always needs money, even in Thedas.

[Divine Justinia V]

God always needs money, even in Thedas.

 

God or his followers?

[Master Warder Z_]

I promise I'll give you your stupid dollar if you're right

I can't imagine what use God would have for a single dollar though

 

It's symbolic! You know that i actually do occasionally act like a deity...

 

O_o and maybe i want a soda...

[Master Warder Z_]

God or his followers?

 

Kakuzu mayor may not have prompted that statement...