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[falconlord5]

 

 

You owe me a dollar if i turn out to be right

 

*Knows he is right already*

 

I'm god after all.

 

You're assuming that the franchise will continue post-DA:I.

[TK514]

As a complete tangent, I'm not really sure why people view a cure for Tranquility as a wonderous and fantastic development for Mages.

Call me cynical, but if you're the type to view Tranquility as some unending horror, I would expect you to be terrified at how such a cure could be misused.

Right now, to pros and cons of making someone Tranquil had to be weighed, because it was an irrevocable decision. Alrik's Tranquil Solution was unthinkable because it was drastic and irreversible.

But consider this: What use does the majority of Thedas have for Mages when they aren't being used to wage war? Healing magic is far too rare to be a practical concern. Mages mostly have access to offensive spells. So what's to prevent an outside merciless controlling body from making every Mage Tranquil, and thus useful as enchanters, then curing the ones they need to fight when they are needed?

To the right sort of person, the Tranquil Solution would no longer seem so drastic. Where before Tranquility had to be used like a scalpel, now it can be an all encompassing blanket.

It would certainly worry me.

[Divine Justinia V]

It's symbolic! You know that i actually do occasionally act like a deity...

 

O_o and maybe i want a soda...

 

Okay, a dollar and a soda. Bottle or can, and what kind?

[KainD]

I don't know. He seems pretty scared to me.

 

 

 

Oh hey, you're right, looks like a scrub. I won't use him as an example anymore. xD

[EmissaryofLies]

God or his followers?

 

Yes.

[TK514]

I'm suggesting that you don't know how many mages believe in this and are fighting for their own personal cause. I'm suggesting that you're assuming your terms would even appeal to them. They all fear Tranquility, why would you think watching their leaders turn Tranquil would make them peaceful with you?

If one is spared, the effort would be worth it.

[The Baconer]

Plot Hole -

 

So, why had it never occurred (AFAWK) to the Magisters of old, or to the mages in that animated movie whose events I will ignore, to drink some dragon blood?

[Divine Justinia V]

If one is spared, the effort would be worth it.

 

Eeeeeeeeeeeeeh, I must disagree with you, but I wholeheartedly respect your opinion and understand your point

[MisterJB]

But consider this: What use does the majority of Thedas have for Mages when they aren't being used to wage war? Healing magic is far too rare to be a practical concern. Mages mostly have access to offensive spells. So what's to prevent an outside merciless controlling body from making every Mage Tranquil, and thus useful as enchanters, then curing the ones they need to fight when they are needed?

[falconlord5]

Plot Hole -

 

So, why had it never occurred (AFAWK) to the Magisters of old, or to the mages in that animated movie whose events I will ignore, to drink some dragon blood?

 

Is there any reason to suspect it hadn't?

[Hanako Ikezawa]

[Master Warder Z_]

You're assuming that the franchise will continue post-DA:I.

 

Assuming? No, I am working off of EA's greed.

 

DA will continue until its incapable of being continued.

[KainD]

But consider this: What use does the majority of Thedas have for Mages when they aren't being used to wage war? Healing magic is far too rare to be a practical concern. Mages mostly have access to offensive spells. So what's to prevent an outside merciless controlling body from making every Mage Tranquil, and thus useful as enchanters, then curing the ones they need to fight when they are needed?

 

Pff, you serious? You know how they will act once you cure them? 

 

[The Baconer]

As a complete tangent, I'm not really sure why people view a cure for Tranquility as a wonderous and fantastic development for Mages.

Call me cynical, but if you're the type to view Tranquility as some unending horror, I would expect you to be terrified at how such a cure could be misused.

Right now, to pros and cons of making someone Tranquil had to be weighed, because it was an irrevocable decision. Alrik's Tranquil Solution was unthinkable because it was drastic and irreversible.

But consider this: What use does the majority of Thedas have for Mages when they aren't being used to wage war? Healing magic is far too rare to be a practical concern. Mages mostly have access to offensive spells. So what's to prevent an outside merciless controlling body from making every Mage Tranquil, and thus useful as enchanters, then curing the ones they need to fight when they are needed?

To the right sort of person, the Tranquil Solution would no longer seem so drastic. Where before Tranquility had to be used like a scalpel, now it can be an all encompassing blanket.

It would certainly worry me.

 

Well, it appears that those who are cured are not stable, which would most likely end up as a liability if it were used in that manner.

[falconlord5]

Assuming? No, I am working off of EA's greed.

 

DA will continue until its incapable of being continued.

 

Which may very well be after this game.

 

Or before this game is even released.

[Hellion Rex]

As a complete tangent, I'm not really sure why people view a cure for Tranquility as a wonderous and fantastic development for Mages.

Call me cynical, but if you're the type to view Tranquility as some unending horror, I would expect you to be terrified at how such a cure could be misused.

Right now, to pros and cons of making someone Tranquil had to be weighed, because it was an irrevocable decision. Alrik's Tranquil Solution was unthinkable because it was drastic and irreversible.

But consider this: What use does the majority of Thedas have for Mages when they aren't being used to wage war? Healing magic is far too rare to be a practical concern. Mages mostly have access to offensive spells. So what's to prevent an outside merciless controlling body from making every Mage Tranquil, and thus useful as enchanters, then curing the ones they need to fight when they are needed?

To the right sort of person, the Tranquil Solution would no longer seem so drastic. Where before Tranquility had to be used like a scalpel, now it can be an all encompassing blanket.

It would certainly worry me.

 

To be honest, I never saw it as a good thing, because of the potential consequences of reversing it on mages that legitimately had a reason for being made Tranquil. What scares me more at the moment though, is that now that we know demons and spirits can reverse the Rite when in close proximity to Tranquil, what's gonna happen now that the Veil is torn, and spirits are roaming freely across the physical plane? What will happen to the Tranquil? Particularly those working within the Chantry. Big security risk, considering many are probably gonna get there powers back and they will be extremely emotional and probably very angry.

[Master Warder Z_]

Which may very well be after this game.

 

Or before this game is even released.

 

We will see

[EmissaryofLies]

It's funny. The outcome of the war doesn't really matter, the Chantry/Templars will not be in top form and will likely be ripe for pickins' for whoever comes a knockin'. All the more reason for the mages to fight to the last man if they can't defeat them. So they can win twice, while at best the Chantry simply gets what it had before, even if better regulated.

[Master Warder Z_]

It's funny. The outcome of the war doesn't really matter, the Chantry/Templars will not be in top form and will likely be ripe for pickins' for whoever comes a knockin'. All the more reason for the mages to fight to the last man if they can't defeat them. So they can win twice, while at best the Chantry simply gets what it had before, even if better regulated.

 

You consider this a good thing until the Qunari come knocking, or something worse and then you will be begging for a uniting force to call forth the armies of men to beat it back

[The Baconer]

Is there any reason to suspect it hadn't?

 

Wouldn't it be more common and recorded, then? According to the comic the power within the blood was passed down through multiple generations, and from what we've seen, dragon cults tend to breed dragons, which would mean more mages being able to potentially obtain that power and pass it on to their descendents.

[Master Warder Z_]

Wouldn't it be more common and recorded, then? According to the comic the power within the blood was passed down through multiple generations, and from what we've seen, dragon cults tend to breed dragons, which would mean more mages being able to potentially obtain that power and pass it on to their descendents.

 

Might be retconned in, you know given it was a power put in via the comics.

[EmissaryofLies]

You consider this a good thing until the Qunari come knocking, or something worse and then you will be begging for a uniting force to call forth the armies of men to beat it back

 

They'll come for either or. They don't discriminate after all. Either way, the Chantry will not be strong or they'll be destroyed. Can definitely live with that.

[AresKeith]

It's funny. The outcome of the war doesn't really matter, the Chantry/Templars will not be in top form and will likely be ripe for pickins' for whoever comes a knockin'. All the more reason for the mages to fight to the last man if they can't defeat them. So they can win twice, while at best the Chantry simply gets what it had before, even if better regulated.

 

And you think the mages will be in their top form after the war?

[EmissaryofLies]

Obviously not, but they'll be better equipped to deal with Qunari than a weakend bunch of tin soldiers with swords and boards.

[TK514]

Pff, you serious? You know how they will act once you cure them? 
 

  

Well, it appears that those who are cured are not stable, which would most likely end up as a liability if it were used in that manner.

'Fortunately' the Qunari have already developed a method for dealing with unruly/unstable Mages. The sort of person who would use the Tranquil cure as described would have no qualms about slapping a Mage in a Sarebaas harness before 'waking them up'.