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KainD

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To try to cure Shale, so she can become a dwarf again. Apparently, my Warden inspired her.

 

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That's not related to the revolution. lol



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That's not related to the revolution. lol


I don't think Tevinter would be conducive for a revolution, given how even mages can become slaves (like Fenris' sister). The mage rebels are better off without aid from the Imperium.
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#7228
Hanako Ikezawa

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They could easily resurrect Wynne if you killed her. You know.. with that Spirit and all.

If Evangeline is in Inquisition, they'll have to.



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I don't think Tevinter would be conducive for a revolution, given how even mages can become slaves (like Fenris' sister). The mage rebels are better off without aid from the Imperium.

 

No they're not. Without the aid of Tevinter they will surely die. It's better to take chances in a society where you are ALLOWED to be free. And if they integrate properly Tevinter will protect it's citizens from other nations.  I don't even think templars will bother to follow them there. 



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Divine Justinia V

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Sorry. ((Hug)) I guess we'll ultimately find out in Inquisition.

I never killed my companions, so it's not really an issue for me. Too bad Shale didn't get her wish.

 

Me neither, I never had it in me lol.



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No their not. Without the aid of Tevinter they will surely die. It's better to take chances in a society where you are ALLOWED to be free. And if they integrate properly Tevinter will protect it's citizens from other nations. I don't even think templars will bother to follow them there.


You're also "allowed" to be a slave in Tevinter, whether or not you're a mage: it's hardly an idyllic paradise.

I also think you underestimate the mages. I think they have a chance to maintain their autonomy. And I'm sure some of the elven mages can find opportunity with the Dalish if they want a different life.

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Divine Justinia V

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I really hope she isn't Alistair mother and that there's a third child

 

It seems like there's a really great chance that she's the mother.

 

 

If Evangeline is in Inquisition, they'll have to.

 

I hope she is <3



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You're also "allowed" to be a slave in Tevinter, whether or not you're a mage: it's hardly an idyllic paradise.

I also think you underestimate the mages. I think they have a chance to maintain their autonomy. And I'm sure some of the elven mages can find opportunity with the Dalish if they want a different life.

 

It's not a paradise it's just a place where your destiny is in your hands. If you suck you are a slave, if you are smart you are the boss. 

Mages will be largely outnumbered, not only by the templars. 



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I hope she is <3

 

What's with Evangeline love? What did she do now? 



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Divine Justinia V

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What's with Evangeline love? What did she do now? 

 

lmao

She's just amazing.



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lmao

She's just amazing.

 

Ah yes, my imagination already runs wild!



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Divine Justinia V

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Ah yes, my imagination already runs wild!

 

please I am half asleep jerk lol

do some reading :D



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It's not a paradise it's just a place where your destiny is in your hands. If you suck you are a slave, if you are smart you are the boss.
Mages will be largely outnumbered, not only by the templars.


The mages can make their own destiny outside of Tevinter. And I'm sure the Inquisitor (and the Inquisition) can play a role in acting as a significant factor in the war for one side (at least for the regions the protagonist will travel across, from Ferelden to the Free Marches).

As for a "boss", a Magister, Corypheus might show up. Possessing the surviving Warden. A nemesis for the Inquisitor to defeat.

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please I am half asleep jerk lol

do some reading :D

 

Me too lol

Also Evangeline is awesome indeed, she is worthy of a Darwin award. 


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The mages can make their own destiny outside of Tevinter. And I'm sure the Inquisitor (and the Inquisition) can play a role in acting as a significant factor in the war for one side (at least for the regions the protagonist will travel across, from Ferelden to the Free Marches).

As for a "boss", a Magister, Corypheus might show up. Possessing the surviving Warden. A nemesis for the Inquisitor to defeat.

 

Sigh, I always have to defeat what I don't even want to fight.. 



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Sigh, I always have to defeat what I don't even want to fight..


You're very pro-Tevinter, I take it? I know there's more to Tevinter than it's abhorrent aspects; Wynne is quite positive about visiting Tevinter with Shale, an older Connor visits Tevinter to further his studies, and I've heard about the massive golems known as the Juggernauts that are suppose to be impressive.

As for Corypheus, I'd want to gain victory over him with a Dalish mage, as I think there would be some symbolic significance in defeating one of the fabled Tevinter mages. I take it you'd want to ally with Corypheus? Do you think he has a plan you'd agree to with your Inquisitor?

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Hanako Ikezawa

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Me too lol

Also Evangeline is awesome indeed, she is worthy of a Darwin award. 

You mean a good Darwin award or the bad Darwin awards?



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Well Evangeline is pro-mage and merged with a spirit.

 

She is an abomination in Templar's eyes and in its both meanings. Hated (abominated) and with a guest inside her.



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To try to cure Shale, so she can become a dwarf again. Apparently, my Warden inspired her.

 

I always found that strange. Doesn't the golem creation process entail encasing a dwarf inside the golem, and then pouring liquid, molten liyrium inside?

That doesn't sound reverseable.



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Sigh, I always have to defeat what I don't even want to fight..

You'll probably be forced to do a lot of that in DAI, since you're almost surely going to fight a lot of demons.

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Lotion Soronarr

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You mean a good Darwin award or the bad Darwin awards?

 

 

Given that Darwin awards are rewarded for extreme acts of stupidity, I'd say the bad one.



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Evangeline is the worst.

 

Has anyone else pondered over the fact how Justice only seems to bother making itself manifest when mages are, supposedly, the victims?

 

Schizophrenic noble kills elven teenagers?

Justice: Zzzzz

 

Serial Killer mage?

Justice: Zzzzz

 

Blood mage kills his wife?

Justice: Zzzzz

 

Templars threaten mage, having not laid a hand on her?

Justice: THEY WILL DIE! I WILL KILL EVERY SINGLE TEMPLAR FOR THIS!


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Evangeline is the worst.

 

Has anyone else pondered over the fact how Justice only seems to bother making itself manifest when mages are, supposedly, the victims?

 

Schizophrenic noble kills elven teenagers?

Justice: Zzzzz

 

Serial Killer mage?

Justice: Zzzzz

 

Blood mage kills his wife?

Justice: Zzzzz

 

Templars threaten mage, having not laid a hand on her?

Justice: THEY WILL DIE! I WILL KILL EVERY SINGLE TEMPLAR FOR THIS!

 

I agree. However, he wasn't like that in Awakening. Anders ruined him. Well actually they ruined each other.


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I agree. However, he wasn't like that in Awakening. Anders ruined him. Well actually they ruined each other.

 

As if its the first time we saw biased Justice. Its certainly not the first time in Thedas.

 

I always saw it as biased Justice not Vengeance but yeah using the V word adds a lot of interesting factors to the game.



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Evangeline is the worst.

 

Has anyone else pondered over the fact how Justice only seems to bother making itself manifest when mages are, supposedly, the victims?

 

Schizophrenic noble kills elven teenagers?

Justice: Zzzzz

 

Serial Killer mage?

Justice: Zzzzz

 

Blood mage kills his wife?

Justice: Zzzzz

 

Templars threaten mage, having not laid a hand on her?

Justice: THEY WILL DIE! I WILL KILL EVERY SINGLE TEMPLAR FOR THIS!

Erm, no one really talks in the latter two quests. The former is something of a regrettable omission... although your trivializing of the last situation is disgusting itself.


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