That retort does nothing to change the reality of the situation for mages in Andrastian society, which has been shaped by Chantry teachings for a millennia. We have Wynne addressing how Andrastian societies have innocent mages killed by lynch mobs because they blame mages for things that they aren't responsible for, and I highly doubt it's a coincidence that the Chantry conditions people to view magic as a curse, which is addressed by characters in the narrative like Keili, Bethany, and Meredith, with only one character calling it a blessing and a curse: Greagoir. Even Mother Hannah has to assure an Amell Warden that a lynch mob won't attempt to kill him for being a mage.
You're confusing the Chantry with the Dalish, who view magic as a gift, and don't attempt to lynch mages simply for having magical abilities. In Andrastian societies, we know how people focus on magic as a curse. Keili and Bethany are the prime examples of what happens when the dominant religion vilifies magic and mages as part of their religious rhetoric. Keili thinks that the mages deserve to be purified by the swords of mercy, while Bethany views herself as cursed because of her magical abilities.
Hardly a minority, and not even one that's only relegated to views from people like Anders. Moderates like Irving and Wynne address that there are problems with the Chantry controlled Circles. Irving describes life in the Circle as a matter of survival, admitting: "If you want to survive, you must learn the rules and realize that sometimes, sacrifices are necessary." Irving, an Aequitarian, also provides his view of the Chantry and the templars: "And Chantry and templars are models of magnanimity? They would make us all Tranquil if they could, and call it a kindness. They fancy themselves our guardians, sitting smugly on their righteousness."
Wynne practically pleads with The Warden (from the Circle) to return to the Circle as a leader, in order to make it a better place; she confesses that this is actually her dream, one she thinks she won't live to see. In the City of Amaranthine, Wynne addresses that the fraternities are nearing a majority who want the Circles to be emancipated from the Chantry, so she's desperate for help to persuade the meeting at Cumberland against it. Wynne explains her rational against breaking free from the Chantry is her fear that the Chantry will kill all the mages rather than see them free.
Putting mages into servitude to the Chantry for nearly a thousand years has lead to this moment, where the mages democratically voted against remaining in subjugation to the Chantry of Andraste and the Order of Templars, and are now being forced into a position to defend themselves against a coalition of Seekers and templars who follow Lambert's banner. I'm not going to vilify the mages for refusing to submit themselves to a religious order that deems it has "dominion over mages by divine right".
Apparently, many mages are willing to fight for that freedom, even if it means they die on their feet, rather than live on their knees.
I have combated these very retorts a thousand times, offered my own position just as many and you think this tangent is something new to me? The poorly structured pleading argument to support the Mages, Honestly if you lot actually stopped the whole "support us because its morally right" garbage i might take you're arguments more seriously. Just offering that bit of advice before we begin.
Are you quite done trying to combat what was actually written with what your interpretation of what is? Good, Now let me start with this point.
The Chantry teaches magic is dangerous, it has a history of danger, abuse and horrors, it also is viewed a gift by their God, This was written in the very Canticles you apparently try to ignore. So again it doesn't "vilify" it warns of the dangers against, Its lore vs your interpretation and lore wins friend.
Lynch Mobs again, Do you have no other ammunition truly? Ignorant peasants aside, all that does is paint the mindscape of the common man and their view of Magic, just because the Chantry preaches Magic as a gift doesn't negate what it has accomplished in History, a notion some Pro Mages would very much like every one else to overlook because "it doesn't represent every one". And Magic again is voiced as a gift by the Maker in the Canticles, however individual interpretation is what is in Thedas as it is in our own reality, if Mages believe themselves cursed with magic?
That's their decision, And i'd hardly argue it a harmful one considering Magic warrants observation over all other things.
Anders is a stain upon their own cause in my eye, attempting to achieve change through revolution will only lead to far more suffering then it will ever fix. Irving, Ah yes the First Enchanter and very convinced of his own position, its no lie the Chantry has dominion over the circle while technicality maintains its an independent organization. He hasn't forgotten that nor his place, but his personal musings on the templars aside? Does he have a point? History has proven time and again the Circle is the best course, there has only been ONE documented clause about a possibility of mass tranquility and it was uniformly rejected by both the regions Knight Commander and the Divine, so his musings ring hollow to me. And.And surprisingly Wynne never shares the sentiment does that shock you? She is actually a support of Controls placed upon Mages, of the Circle. So how exactly is she a defender of your cause when she all but supported the same notion i do until extremists forced her hand?
You mean after a Murderer removed the possibility of peaceful coexistence and an extremist with taint rotting her brain held a vote as a moot point, i don't begrudge the mages their second treasonous notion, by then? Fiona and Adrian had already gotten them all killed, But with out them, this "democratically" voted separation as you called it wouldn't have come to pass, Kirkwall was a memory both parties could have eventually gotten over if not them. The blood of the mage is as much upon those pairs of hands as it is upon any Templar.
And how many more were content to be safe and secured from a world that was kept protected from them? Do their desires mean any less then those you happen to agree with?
Such a sad state of affairs this.