I can prove you wrong with one word:
Bethany.
She turned herself in without a fight. But if a mage is outside the Circle they are called an apostate and suspected blood mage or just calling them a blood mage. Look at Wynne's student. A scared angry teenager and they killed him for being a blood mage when he wasn't one.
Anerin? Uh, they didn't kill him. He escaped.
Thetinyevil wasn't saying that templars kill all mages during Annulment, but the templars kill them everytime they found one. Which Bethany's case in Act 1proves wrong
Ok.
Nope, the red lyrium makes people more and more paranoid and crazy over time.They are not mad, they are honest + strong. I like strong and honest companions.
She turned herself in without a fight. But if a mage is outside the Circle they are called an apostate and suspected blood mage or just calling them a blood mage. Look at Wynne's student. A scared angry teenager and they killed him for being a blood mage when he wasn't one.
Was there anything to confirm that he wasn't?
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He could have been for all we know, it isn't like we see him performing magic.
She turned herself in without a fight. But if a mage is outside the Circle they are called an apostate and suspected blood mage or just calling them a blood mage. Look at Wynne's student. A scared angry teenager and they killed him for being a blood mage when he wasn't one.
How do you know Aneirin didn't use blood magic when the Templars came to return him to the Circle?
Nope, the red lyrium makes people more and more paranoid and crazy over time.
Seemed to me like whatever came out of Bartrend and Meredith while under the influence of red lyrium was kinda already there.
She turned herself in without a fight. But if a mage is outside the Circle they are called an apostate and suspected blood mage or just calling them a blood mage. Look at Wynne's student. A scared angry teenager and they killed him for being a blood mage when he wasn't one.
He's alive and well in Brecilian Forrest, and you'll find him if you do Wynne's quest.
@MisterJB I highly doubt he was a blood mage. I think he was just good at staying on the run and if memory serves, the Dalish took him in at one point.
Anerin? Uh, they didn't kill him. He escaped.
He escaped, got ran through and the Dalish took him in.
My point is this, Where would the Templars get the notion he was a Blood Mage for that was what they told Wynne?
Blood Magic Accusations aren't tossed around even by the Templars casually.
Anders escaped seven times and wasn't killed. Bethany wasn't killed by Cullen. Some of the Starkhaven mages weren't killed when caught (though Meredith's method of randomly picking some to be executed/tranquilized is horrible).
If Hawke didn't show up the Starkhaven mages would have been butchered by Karras and his cronies. Anders is a Spirit Healer rare and valuable so they were going to kill him unless he actually turned to blood magic. He also didn't fight back when the came or them. I already said that Bethany turned herself in and Cullen owed Hawke so those two things kept her from getting run though.
And that event, as horrible as was, proves that every templar kills mages that escape the Circles? When we have the example of a mage that escaped seven times?She turned herself in without a fight. But if a mage is outside the Circle they are called an apostate and suspected blood mage or just calling them a blood mage. Look at Wynne's student. A scared angry teenager and they killed him for being a blood mage when he wasn't one.
I know Felicia Day's web series is a little potentially dubious to draw lore from, but the templars in "Redemption" were shown to go as far as to imprison both a Dalish Keeper and a Qunari Saarebas without killing them.
And torture them. Yeah that is so much better.
He escaped, got ran through and the Dalish took him in.
My point is this, Where would the Templars get the notion he was a Blood Mage for that was what they told Wynne?
Blood Magic Accusations aren't tossed around even by the Templars casually.
Yeah they are.
He escaped, got ran through and the Dalish took him in.
My point is this, Where would the Templars get the notion he was a Blood Mage for that was what they told Wynne?
Blood Magic Accusations aren't tossed around even by the Templars casually.
It's been a while since I've played that scene, but was that confirmed? I assumed that the templars were lying to Wynne when they told her he was dead since they realized he was beyond their reach.
How do you know Aneirin didn't use blood magic when the Templars came to return him to the Circle?
And how do you know that he did indeed utilize blood magic?
And torture them. Yeah that is so much better.
That's beside the point. It would still contradict your assertion.
And you know that Anders didn't fight back...how? And how do you know if Aenerin fight back?If Hawke didn't show up the Starkhaven mages would have been butchered by Karras and his cronies. Anders is a Spirit Healer rare and valuable so they were going to kill him unless he actually turned to blood magic. He also didn't fight back when the came or them. I already said that Bethany turned herself in and Cullen owed Hawke so those two things kept her from getting run though.
It's been a while since I've played that scene, but was that confirmed? I assumed that the templars were lying to Wynne when they told her he was dead since they realized he was beyond their reach.
He said he ran into the Templars and they left him for dead, He didn't mention if there was a combat or not.
I'm of the mind there was, but that's me.
That's beside the point. It would still contradict your assertion.
Both had useful information so they weren't killed. The Sarabas information on the Qunari and the Keeper on the dalish and the mask.
And how do you know that he did indeed utilize blood magic?
I do not. But I am not the one trying to present his dubious innocence as a fact and then utilize it in an argument.
No they don't. They see a mage and they kill them. Innocent or guilty. To templars all mages are blood mages if they are or not.
Even Idunna (obvious blood mage) was spared, despite all the claims about bloodlust Templars. If you spare her, she is well and safe in Circle 3 years later.
If you side with Meredith's Annulment, some mages surrender. If Hawke speaks in their favor, the Templars spare them.
Then there were the seven times Anders escaped and was brought back.
The Templars sparing Alain despite him being a blood mage.
The Templars sparing the whole Circle of Starkhaven despite them being Apostates.
The Templars sparing Emille despite him being an Apostate.
The Templars sparing Idunna despite her being a blood mage and Apostate.
The Templars sparing Ella despite her having escaped the Circle.
The Templars sparing Connor despite him being an Apostate and former-Abomination.
The Templars sparing Bethany despite her being an Apostate her whole life.
Gregoir revoking the Right of Annulment despite the Circle being overrun and the possibility of everyone being possessed.
The Templars do not kill mages on sight, period.
Anerin? Uh, they didn't kill him. He escaped.
I meant to almost killed posted before I realized the mistake and I haven't figured out how to edit posts on this new forum system yet.
Also they left him for dead. The Dalish found and saved him if not for them he likely would have died.
If you side with Meredith's Annulment, some mages surrender. If Hawke speaks in their favor, the Templars spare them.
Then there were the seven times Anders escaped and was brought back.
The Templars sparing Alain despite him being a blood mage.
The Templars sparing the whole Circle of Starkhaven despite them being Apostates.
The Templars sparing Emille despite him being an Apostate.
The Templars sparing Idunna despite her being a blood mage and Apostate.
The Templars sparing Ella despite her having escaped the Circle.
The Templars sparing Connor despite him being an Apostate and former-Abomination.
The Templars sparing Bethany despite her being an Apostate her whole life.
Gregoir revoking the Right of Annulment despite the Circle being overrun and the possibility of everyone being possessed.
The Templars do not kill mages on sight, period.
I agree with most of your post, but I have to ask with the bolded: The entire Circle in Starkhaven rebelled? Do you have a dev source for that fact or is it just coming from Alain and Grace?
I agree with most of your post, but I have to ask with the bolded: The entire Circle in Starkhaven rebelled? Do you have a dev source for that fact or is it just coming from Alain and Grace?
I think he means they were all apostates in the sense they had no Circle since their's was destroyed. Same way that now every mage is an apostate because there are no longer any Circles.
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