superdeathdealer14 wrote...
This just sums up how I feel about the whole Mage vs Templar debate.


Not sure if truthfully briliant or briliantly trolling...Either way...it just seems...right.
Someone mentioned that the uneven presentation of the mage-templar conflict came from the fact that players haven't been exposed to as many sympathetic viewpoints on templars and anti-mage relations as we have with mages and mage-friendly circles.
The closest that I've found could technically count though most are biased by their own private experiences that don't necessarily apply to the overall structure:
Alistair- Grey Warden recruited from templar training. He doesn't have any hatred for mages save only his reasonable weariness of apostates and blood magic. Also provides inside account of templar training and the lyrium addiction aspect that's almost blatantly used as a means of controlling templars. So Moderate neutral viewpoint with slight anti-chantry leaning.
Greagoir- Knight Commander of Kinloch Hold and has a firm, but fair oversight of the Circle mages there. Rightfully is weary of blood mages or abominations and is willing to annul the Circle to stop Uldred's Uprising. But once evidence is given that the uprising is dealt with, Greagoir will call it off and cause no further grief for the remaining mages. He also bears a grudging respect for older mages such as Irving and Wynne though he doesn't approve of when they scheme behind his back. (Like withholding info about Jowan if the mage Warden tells Irving about Jowan's plan) Guess this counts as a reasonably sympathetic Pro-Templar viewpoint.
Cullen- Properly paranoid about mages after being emotionally scared by Uldred's Uprising. Eventually calms down and becomes Meredith's right-hand man. Supports heavy regulation and vigilance of Circle mages, but won't go as far as to violently murder any mage for no reason. So Cullen would serve as a proper though a reasonably biased pro-templar standpoint.
Fenris- Fugitive from Tevinter who mistrusts and depises all mages because of his experiences in Tevinter and as Majester Danarius' slave. Even if he regards an individual mage as an ally or friend (such as Merrill or Hawke), he'll still remain wary of pro-mage decisions or anything that supports demonology/blood mage. So, here's another sympathetic yet biased anti-mage standpoint.
Meredith- Knight Commander of Kirkwall and though she has sympathy for mages, she believes that their curse is an inherent danger to the common people that must be guarded. Her beliefs are strongly reinforced by how her parents had attempted to hide her mage sister when she was a girl, her sister became an abomination and 70 people died before she was killed. But her paranoia leads her to eventually seize direct political control over Kirkwall's government and call the Right of Annulment on the local Circle in direct response to an apostate who blew up the Chantry. Pro-Templer Extremist Viewpoint.
Lambert- Lord Seeker of the Chantry Seekers who manages to raise the stakes in the conflict just out of an unwillingness to give the Circles a benefit of a doubt. His experiences were colored by a personal betrayal by a mage friend in Tevinter who used him to eventually to become the Black Divine and not only depower the Templar Order in Tevinter, but also sounded like an evil warlock straight out of a typical fantasy story. So Lambert left Tevinter as well as any notion that mages are anything, but ticking time bombs. This goes as far as ordering a fellow templar to prevent any possible information about an alternative to the Rite of Tranquility from becoming public and forcing an untranquilized mage to be retranquilized out of spite. Eventually, he orchestrates an attack on the Mage's gathering and breaks the Seeker and Templar Orders away from Chantry Authority after the White Divine had attempted to mediate the boiling conflict. Clearly an Anti-Mage Extremist Viewpoint.
Evangeline- Knight-Captain of the White Spire who was ordered to impede Rhys' and Wynne's quest to find an alternative to the Rite of Tranquility, but after learning about the mage perspective and bonding with her companions, she disobeys her orders and gets demoted by Lambert. Eventually sides with and dies defending the mages from her former boss and gets better at the cost of Wynne's life. Now currently abiding with Rhys as an "anti-magic" abomination. Pro-Mage Viewpoint and after her personal experiences, would be reasonably biased Anti-templar or just Anti-Lambert (If he's still alive).
That's everyone that I've gotten for major characters and I'm sure that there are a few minor characters like Thrask or Keran, but overall I can see the aforementioned unbalance...though I'm sure if it would hold up to the structural problems that the Templar Order and the Chantry itself have displayed.
Modifié par ShadowLordXII, 22 février 2014 - 03:35 .