Conor didn't have a clue what he did. He didn't intentionally summon a demon. The demon found him.
I got one part wrong: it was the pact he made that was deliberate. So, yes, there are three possible ways to become an abomination: thin Veil, demonology piercing the Veil, or actually allowing in full consciousness a demon to possess you.
His tutor pretty much confirmed as much.
He couldn't light a candle magically little lone cobble together a demonic summoning.
His tutor confirmed that he read spells he was no supposed to and summoned the demon by mistake.
His tutor confirmed that he read spells he was no supposed to and summoned the demon by mistake.
I don't recall this. I recall Connor saying that the demon ('nice lady') came to him and offered him to help his father.
Yup.
Conor accidentally sundered the veil, not through conscious effort mind, but because he was contacted by a demon in the fade (likely while he dreamt)
Thus once a bargain was struck, the possession occurred, an inch was given and the entire body seized.
Reason enough to view the entire practice of dealing with demons as pure idiocy.
His tutor confirmed that he read spells he was no supposed to and summoned the demon by mistake.
Yeah that never happened.
._. Can you back up what you claim?
I don't recall this. I recall Connor saying that the demon ('nice lady') came to him and offered him to help his father.
4:10-20
He says Conner may of Accidentally torn the veil.
Yup.
Conor accidentally sundered the veil, not through conscious effort mind, but because he was contacted by a demon in the fade (likely while he dreamt)
Thus once a bargain was struck, the possession occurred, an inch was given and the entire body seized.
Reason enough to view the entire practice of dealing with demons as pure idiocy.
That does not mean mage turn to abominations just because. Their was a cause an effect. It was ignorance that was the cause not just a demon just coming to him randomly.
This is a point that mages need to be taught, not they they will suddenly turn into abominations.
Jowan gave an hyphothesis. Connor later stated what happened.
4:10-20
He says Conner may of Accidentally torn the veil.
Random post, but the mage pc video reminded me of the Pride demon from the magi origin. Makes me wonder if it's still watching the warden, waiting for a time to strike.
Jowan gave an hyphothesis. Connor later stated what happened.
Amazing when mages are proven wrong by other mages yeah?
o.o course killing the boy and Jowan was the only right course of action here.
Plus Alistair whined about it! More then enough reason to do it!
Random post, but the mage pc video reminded me of the Pride demon from the magi origin. Makes me wonder if it's still watching the warden, waiting for a time to strike.
Considering the Mage PC could very well be dead?
I doubt it.
Probably got bored watching the Warden if it ever really bothered to do it the first place.
Agreed. Connor was barely educated in magic, and Jowan wasn't likely a good teacher.That does not mean mage turn to abominations just because. Their was a cause an effect. It was ignorance that was the cause not just a demon just coming to him randomly.
This is a point that mages need to be taught, not they they will suddenly turn into abominations.
I disagree about killing Connor. He wasn't aware of what demons were. And killing him will not kill the desire demon.Amazing when mages are proven wrong by other mages yeah?
o.o course killing the boy and Jowan was the only right course of action here.
Plus Alistair whined about it! More then enough reason to do it!
I disagree about killing Connor. He wasn't aware of what demons were. And killing him will not kill the desire demon.
You Obliterate its Avatar it's power with out that host is greatly reduced, assuming its aspect in the fade even survived intact that demon is fair prey for the rest of its kind.
And Connor alas was a mage and i did him the mercy of him not living his life as both an abomination, mass murderer or "slave" of the circle 
See i can be Pro mage too!
Rofl.
I disagree about killing Connor. He wasn't aware of what demons were. And killing him will not kill the desire demon.
Connor did kind of mutilate all of his elven servants before killing them, killed off a good portion (if not all of) the people he owed his noble obligation to and ruined my City Elf Warden's shoes.
I mean, the Warden has slaughtered armies for less, so I don't see why we're suddenly drawing lines all of a sudden.
Connor did kind of mutilate all of his elven servants before killing them, killed off a good portion (if not all of) the people he owed his noble obligation to and ruined my City Elf Warden's shoes.
I mean, the Warden has slaughtered armies for less, so I don't see why we're suddenly drawing lines all of a sudden.
Indeed! Let the Blood flow freely!
Mage and normal people alike!
The PC is Invincible!
Indeed! Let the Blood flow freely!
Mage and normal people alike!
The PC is Invincible!
The Warden caused greater depopulation of Ferelden than the Blight did. Believe it.
I'm not saying that there aren't reasons for killing him (though by your logic, we shouldn't spare almost anyone of the major NPCS we had the option to, not to mention that we are forced to be mass murderers in Bioware's games)Connor did kind of mutilate all of his elven servants before killing them, killed off a good portion (if not all of) the people he owed his noble obligation to and ruined my City Elf Warden's shoes.
I mean, the Warden has slaughtered armies for less, so I don't see why we're suddenly drawing lines all of a sudden.
The Warden caused greater depopulation of Ferelden than the Blight did. Believe it.
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Amazing when mages are proven wrong by other mages yeah?
o.o course killing the boy and Jowan was the only right course of action here.
Plus Alistair whined about it! More then enough reason to do it!
How do this prove mages wrong. What happen to him was out of ignorance. Even he did not understand what he did. It an issue the mages need to be educated, not that mage turn to abominations at a drop of a hat.
I'm not saying that there aren't reasons for killing him (though by your logic, we shouldn't spare almost anyone of the major NPCS we had the option to, not to mention that we are forced to be mass murderers in Bioware's games)
What you said is true, but it wasn't completely his fault. He had no decision in his mother's actions of hiding his nature, he didn't know much about magic (and even less about demons) due to his crappy teacher, and a kid isn't exactly mature enough to discerne what is right or wrong (the demon that offered him help). Jowan and Isolde are more at fault for what happened than him.
Of all of Rendon Howe's crimes, he never got my shoes dirty, so I fail to see your point. :/
You are absolutely correct. However, he's still both complicit in mass murder, racial mutilation and property damage. He's also a human noble, so there's very little sympathy from either my Dalish or City elf.
I don't get the part about Howe :S.Of all of Rendon Howe's crimes, he never got my shoes dirty, so I fail to see your point. :/
You are absolutely correct. However, he's still both complicit in mass murder, racial mutilation and property damage. He's also a human noble, so there's very little sympathy from either my Dalish or City elf.
The Warden caused greater depopulation of Ferelden than the Blight did. Believe it.
Repeat that near me again and i will Almighty Push you off a cliff -_-''
Wait, are people seriously trying to justify murdering Connor by saying the kid deserves it?
Good lord BSN, you never cease to amaze me.
Wait, are people seriously trying to justify murdering Connor by saying the kid deserves it?
Good lord BSN, you never cease to amaze me.
It's the Pro Mage thing to do *Nods*
Murdering him prevents him from being enslaved by the circle.
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