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[Zyzimorph]

caineghis2500 wrote...

Max Dmian wrote...

You can be leader of Spectre if you show it right now.

Well someone else should take the throne since you've grown soft

Sick burn 

[-PenguinFetish-]

Annomander wrote...

caineghis2500 wrote...

OP needs something that requires aim to be approved by the hacking elite

Could also mention the fact that the creator of this video is intentionally abusing a glitch allowing him to do way more damage than the developers of the game intended, by using incendiary ammo.

So if you want to talk legitimacy, this solo ain't.

Any solo with incendiary ammo = knowingly exploting a bug which gives the player a huge advantage.

It's more reprehensible than running with the pizza or hacking outside the circle to be honest.

Its in the game therefore its allowed. Just like pizza running, hack circle glitching and triple hit bugs. Whine more about how my solo isn't legit please.

[BridgeBurner]

-PenguinFetish- wrote...

Annomander wrote...

caineghis2500 wrote...

OP needs something that requires aim to be approved by the hacking elite

Could also mention the fact that the creator of this video is intentionally abusing a glitch allowing him to do way more damage than the developers of the game intended, by using incendiary ammo.

So if you want to talk legitimacy, this solo ain't.

Any solo with incendiary ammo = knowingly exploting a bug which gives the player a huge advantage.

It's more reprehensible than running with the pizza or hacking outside the circle to be honest.

Its in the game therefore its allowed. Just like pizza running, hack circle glitching and triple hit bugs. Whine more about how my solo isn't legit please.

You completely misunderstand my post.

If idiots like Caineghis want to start determining what is and isn't "hacky" there are many things we can look at when considering what is legit and what isn't, as he was so quick to jump to your defence while simultaneously calling out players who are better than both of you.

[IamZAE]

Zyzimorph wrote...

caineghis2500 wrote...

Max Dmian wrote...

You can be leader of Spectre if you show it right now.

Well someone else should take the throne since you've grown soft

Sick burn 

he has grown soft.

infact why dont your or max 1v1 me and put me in my place? outscore me ill leave bsn amd quit mass effect. sweet deal?

[IamZAE]

@annomander.... lol ur tough on your PC brethren

[Pearl (rip bioware)]

-PenguinFetish- wrote...

MasterReefa wrote...

Average GT gameplay

Above average actually. I haven't seen anyone solo faster with a Geth Trooper. Average reegar speedrun gameplay for sure though.

According to Hendrix's thread, there's loads faster than this (you should know this already, though, considering two of your runs are on there). Too lazy to see if/how many are NR, though.

All sarcasm aside, this is a decent time.

Modifié par FatherOfPearl, 16 février 2014 - 02:13 .

[Lady Abstract]

Oh so exploiting ingame glitches isnt legit but hacking the objectives is?

Aw ok

[Zyzimorph]

I'd like proof of your sub 20 solo first.

[Zyzimorph]

QU33N_ANG3L wrote...

Oh so exploiting ingame glitches isnt legit but hacking the objectives is?

Aw ok

Objectives were put in the game by developers on purpose.

[Kalas747]

Nice solo OP. Hope you don't mind if I briefly taunt Heldarion and spectre in your thread. I can be very passive aggressive that way. Every compliment I make toward somebody should also function as a dual insult toward an unrelated person.

[StoxRegalia]

caineghis2500 wrote...

Notorious P I G wrote...

Is this the part were Cain posts a sub 20 mission success screen with little to no info attached?

Try harder pig

I just dont wany people to know that I'm already trying my hardest and failing to impress.

[Lady Abstract]

Zyzimorph wrote...

QU33N_ANG3L wrote...

Oh so exploiting ingame glitches isnt legit but hacking the objectives is?

Aw ok

Objectives were put in the game by developers on purpose.

But hacking them wasnt. Also glitches are developer mistakes that people chose to exploit.

[Pearl (rip bioware)]

Zyzimorph wrote...

QU33N_ANG3L wrote...

Oh so exploiting ingame glitches isnt legit but hacking the objectives is?

Aw ok

Objectives were put in the game by developers on purpose.

Don't you get it? Modifying your objectives to achieve the fastest possible time without changing anything else is totally worse than using an exploit that allows you to do >5k DPS

[Zyzimorph]

Kalas747 wrote...

Nice solo OP. Hope you don't mind if I briefly taunt Heldarion and spectre in your thread. I can be very passive aggressive that way. Every compliment I make toward somebody should also function as a dual insult toward an unrelated person.

I can solo in 13 minutes blindfolded  hanging upside down. Just saying

[BridgeBurner]

QU33N_ANG3L wrote...

Oh so exploiting ingame glitches isnt legit but hacking the objectives is?

Aw ok

The question is, where do you draw the line?

My argument is, modding your objectives for 100% pizzas, is not half as "illegitimate" as the fact that an incendiary reegar can put out 3-4 times the armour / health dps that it technically should. You might shorten your time by 5 minutes by using incendiary ammo... Or you could get as many attempts as you like to get the fastest time using your set up if you mod your objectives.

An in game glitch would also be missile glitching. Would a duo with one player missile glitching be legit? No? Then why would a duo with another player exploiting a different in game glitch, which gives the player much more armour DPS than they should have, be considered any different?

I'm trying to be devil's advocate here.

Modding your objectives allows you to garauntee a perfect set of objectives; the locations of the pizzas can also be modded so far away pizza spawns aren't used. Players aren't doing the latter, and the former simply allows you as many attempts as you like to beat whatever time you want to beat.

Using incendiary ammo, similar to missile glitching, has a huge impact on how fast enemies can be killed and directly contributes to faster TTKs using high RoF set ups which cause the highest stacking.

3x pizza simply removes RNG from the equation; 3x pizzas is possible, but unlikely.

Modifié par Annomander, 16 février 2014 - 02:24 .

[Argent Xero]

hax!

[-PenguinFetish-]

Annomander wrote...

-PenguinFetish- wrote...

Annomander wrote...

caineghis2500 wrote...

OP needs something that requires aim to be approved by the hacking elite

Could also mention the fact that the creator of this video is intentionally abusing a glitch allowing him to do way more damage than the developers of the game intended, by using incendiary ammo.

So if you want to talk legitimacy, this solo ain't.

Any solo with incendiary ammo = knowingly exploting a bug which gives the player a huge advantage.

It's more reprehensible than running with the pizza or hacking outside the circle to be honest.

Its in the game therefore its allowed. Just like pizza running, hack circle glitching and triple hit bugs. Whine more about how my solo isn't legit please.

You completely misunderstand my post.

If idiots like Caineghis want to start determining what is and isn't "hacky" there are many things we can look at when considering what is legit and what isn't, as he was so quick to jump to your defence while simultaneously calling out players who are better than both of you.

Why do you care so much about whats 'legit' or not? More to the point, why do you think I care about your opinion about whats 'legit' or not? Get the **** out of my thread and whine somewhere else if you don't like the gameplay thats being showcased here. 

Sorry Alquinn, your sub 13 GI solo doesn't count. Objectives hacked to give you optimal speedrunning time. Also you used AP ammo which let you get triple hits on Atlases, which let you do more damage than developers intended

Modifié par -PenguinFetish-, 16 février 2014 - 02:24 .

[cato potato]

Annomander wrote...

QU33N_ANG3L wrote...

Oh so exploiting ingame glitches isnt legit but hacking the objectives is?

Aw ok

The question is, where do you draw the line?

My argument is, modding your objectives for 100% pizzas, is not half as "illegitimate" as the fact that an incendiary reegar can put out 3-4 times the armour / health dps that it technically should. You might shorten your time by 5 minutes by using incendiary ammo... Or you could get as many attempts as you like to get the fastest time using your set up.

An in game glitch would also be missile glitching. Would a duo with one player missile glitching be legit? No? Then why would a duo with another player exploiting a different in game glitch, which gives the player much more armour DPS than they should have, be considered any different?

I'm trying to be devil's advocate here.

You can't use logic to argue someone out of a position they didn't use logic to get into in the first place.

^ I think that almost makes sense.

[Lady Abstract]

Annomander wrote...

QU33N_ANG3L wrote...

Oh so exploiting ingame glitches isnt legit but hacking the objectives is?

Aw ok

The question is, where do you draw the line?

My argument is, modding your objectives for 100% pizzas, is not half as "illegitimate" as the fact that an incendiary reegar can put out 3-4 times the armour / health dps that it technically should. You might shorten your time by 5 minutes by using incendiary ammo... Or you could get as many attempts as you like to get the fastest time using your set up.

An in game glitch would also be missile glitching. Would a duo with one player missile glitching be legit? No? Then why would a duo with another player exploiting a different in game glitch, which gives the player much more armour DPS than they should have, be considered any different?

I'm trying to be devil's advocate here.

I just figured the majority of BSN would be ok with Penguin's solo. But instead they say its not legit because of incendiary glitch. 

[-PenguinFetish-]

QU33N_ANG3L wrote...

Annomander wrote...

QU33N_ANG3L wrote...

Oh so exploiting ingame glitches isnt legit but hacking the objectives is?

Aw ok

The question is, where do you draw the line?

My argument is, modding your objectives for 100% pizzas, is not half as "illegitimate" as the fact that an incendiary reegar can put out 3-4 times the armour / health dps that it technically should. You might shorten your time by 5 minutes by using incendiary ammo... Or you could get as many attempts as you like to get the fastest time using your set up.

An in game glitch would also be missile glitching. Would a duo with one player missile glitching be legit? No? Then why would a duo with another player exploiting a different in game glitch, which gives the player much more armour DPS than they should have, be considered any different?

I'm trying to be devil's advocate here.

I just figured the majority of BSN would be ok with Penguin's solo. But instead they say its not legit because of incendiary glitch. 

If we take a look at the Gold solo speedrunners leaderboard, we can discount each and every one of them for exploting a damage enhancing bug. Incindiary ammo, triple hits, objective glitching and modding. 

I guess BSN just needs to accept that annomander is the best and most wise player of all time and he and only he can judge what is legit or not. 

[BridgeBurner]

QU33N_ANG3L wrote...

Annomander wrote...

QU33N_ANG3L wrote...

Oh so exploiting ingame glitches isnt legit but hacking the objectives is?

Aw ok

The question is, where do you draw the line?

My argument is, modding your objectives for 100% pizzas, is not half as "illegitimate" as the fact that an incendiary reegar can put out 3-4 times the armour / health dps that it technically should. You might shorten your time by 5 minutes by using incendiary ammo... Or you could get as many attempts as you like to get the fastest time using your set up.

An in game glitch would also be missile glitching. Would a duo with one player missile glitching be legit? No? Then why would a duo with another player exploiting a different in game glitch, which gives the player much more armour DPS than they should have, be considered any different?

I'm trying to be devil's advocate here.

I just figured the majority of BSN would be ok with Penguin's solo. But instead they say its not legit because of incendiary glitch. 

I didn't say that. I said that if people want to determine what is and isn't legit, they have to look at all the factors before denouncing players and commending others.

[AaronEh]

Annomander wrote...

Could also mention the fact that the creator of this video is intentionally abusing a glitch allowing him to do way more damage than the developers of the game intended, by using incendiary ammo.

So if you want to talk legitimacy, this solo ain't.

Any solo with incendiary ammo = knowingly exploting a bug which gives the player a huge advantage.

It's more reprehensible than running with the pizza or hacking outside the circle to be honest.

I think in terms of legitimate vs illegitimate using in game bugs to your advantage, not matter how unsporting you think they may be, are legitimate.  They are here, in the game, for better or worse.

Cheesy, yes but still within the rules of game world left to us.

[IamZAE]

@annomander.. how does inciendiery glitch makes wave 10 devices or hacks any easier ?

modding for full pizzas is an egregious crime that shall not be tolerated. and all objective modders shall be stoned by krogan quads.

hey anno i have a question for you. what is your opinion of knockinbrains speed run with the GT reegar? what is your opinion of xcalz krogam vangaurd with reegar?

[-PenguinFetish-]

Annomander wrote...

QU33N_ANG3L wrote...

I just figured the majority of BSN would be ok with Penguin's solo. But instead they say its not legit because of incendiary glitch. 

I didn't say that. 

Annomander wrote...

So if you want to talk legitimacy, this solo ain't

 


You're ass must get real jealous of the sh*t that is coming out of your mouth.

Modifié par -PenguinFetish-, 16 février 2014 - 02:37 .

[Pint]

People still argue over the littlest things when the legitimacy of a solo is questioned.

Nerds.