Yes Merrill herself is the proof that,the use of blood magic as potent and controversial it may be =/ that its practise isn't always used by malicious people for malicious purposes...
The biggest problem with mages - and blood magic in particular - that even good-natured people using it for good purposes can lead to tragedies.
The biggest problem with mages - and blood magic in particular - that even good-natured people using it for good purposes can lead to tragedies.
Most of the times yes,It's not a power one can control easily,and when that's the case the practitioner is easily overwhelmed by it.
I don't think that would be the case for Merrill, considering how adept she is at magic, and her proficiency with blood magic for nearly a decade.
Alright Lobs, i'm going to dig my teeth into you, so be prepared.
I remember you saying on multiple occasions, that Merril learned only blood magic from Audacity, but while digging through audio files i've discovered one line, that slipped past my attention. In "New Path" (i believe it's that quest) Merril says:
"He said he witnessed its forging. He told how to cleanse of its corruption."
Now come at me bro, with wise Merril, learning from ancient elvhen lore on how to cleanse tainted mirrors 
Sorry to bring Merril's topic again, but i just couldn't resist the taunt 
Alright Lobs, i'm going to dig my teeth into you, so be prepared.
I remember you saying on multiple occasions, that Merril learned only blood magic from Audacity, but while digging through audio files i've discovered one line, that slipped past my attention. In "New Path" (i believe it's that quest) Merril says:
"He said he witnessed its forging. He told how to cleanse of its corruption."
Now come at me bro, with wise Merril, learning from ancient elvhen lore on how to cleanse tainted mirrors
Sorry to bring Merril's topic again, but i just couldn't resist the taunt
Audacity said it contained the knowledge of Arlathan in the short story.
As for the shard, Merrill cleansed the shard she took from Ferelden with blood magic. The shard was tainted, as were the others (i.e. "Witch Hunt"). She says that she did this because she didn't have a sufficient amount of lyrium to cleanse it with ordinary magic.
Now that the detour is over, back to our regularly scheduled program.
Nonono, don't evade me 
Merril clearly says, that Audacity taught her how to cleanse the shard, she didn't learn it on her own, as you claimed.
Nonono, don't evade me
Merril clearly says, that Audacity taught her how to cleanse the shard, she didn't learn it on her own, as you claimed.
As I pointed out, Merrill's other conversation with Hawke addresses that she learned blood magic from Audacity because she lacked the lyrium necessary to cleanse the shard with ordinary magic. The line you cited doesn't contradict that; Merrill did learn something from Audacity: blood magic.
Since this is a Cullen thread, we should move this discussion to another thread (like one of the Dalish threads), but I really don't think there's any more ground to cover.
The biggest problem with mages - and blood magic in particular - that even good-natured people using it for good purposes can lead to tragedies.
Of course, Merrill using it caused no tragedies at all. It was how other people chose to react that did.
Sorry for the late reply, Ispan, but I've been keeping myself vested elsewhere.
- Alistair wanted absolutely nothing to do with the Templars and didn't see himself as a religious person, didn't hate mages and wasn't a Templar
Alistair did have training as a Templar though, which he wasn't willing to divulge just freely.
And if I remember correctly, he doesn't challenge the Chantry as king if the Mage Warden asks for the circle tower to be free.
Even when such a character makes the Ultimate Sacrifice at the end of Dragon Age: Origins?
(Do feel free to correct me, mind, if this is incorrect).
-Every character has been through difficult hardship in their life. Leliana, Sten, Zevran, Merrill, Fenris, Anders, Isabela, Shale, Oghren and Sebastian to name a few. Cullen's difficult hardship is very different from Alistair's.
To note, all of the points in my post were to be used as one.
So what I was attempting to say is, were it that a character had *all* of them;
They might suffer from this hypothetical 'Alistair Affect'.
(As well, I did say that some definitions were tenuous; mostly if you viewed them individually).
Also, since Alistair was the only straight male LI in DA:O and LIs were limited in general that poll doesn't seem like it would offer any interesting information.
Perhaps you're right. So maybe the inclusion of Anders would make it more fair?
And if I remember correctly, he doesn't challenge the Chantry as king if the Mage Warden asks for the circle tower to be free.
Even when such a character makes the Ultimate Sacrifice at the end of Dragon Age: Origins?
You're on the internet, so I think it's safe to presume you've encountered the concept of 'fandom' before. I don't understand how you could possibly be bemused by this specific example. The real question is why people get so attached to fictional characters in the first place.
But if you're going to get attached to an imaginary man, you could do a lot worse than Cullen.
I mean, have you seen the literal hordes of starry-eyed women who drool over bigoted, genocidal, sociopathic, cowardly man-children like Draco Malfoy and Marvel's Loki? I mean, sure, some of them just appreciate the eye candy, but others go to absurd lengths to reinterpret these characters as "misunderstood" loners who can be fixed by love.
If you can wrap your head around that, then Cullen shouldn't even be a blip on your radar.
Of course, Merrill using it caused no tragedies at all. It was how other people chose to react that did.
I wonder if that would have been the case if Wonder Hawke wasn't around?
I wonder if that would have been the case if Wonder Hawke wasn't around?
I'd argue?
No.
Experimenting with the mirror in a crowded city was a bad idea. Imagine if the demon came through the mirror as it planned? Merrill would have become a Pride Abomination in the middle of the Alienage. The surviving City Elves would definitely blame Mages and the Dalish. The Templars would have some new recruits too.
Experimenting with the mirror in a crowded city was a bad idea. Imagine if the demon came through the mirror as it planned?
Merrill would have become a Pride Abomination in the middle of the Alienage. The surviving City Elves would definitely blame Mages and the Dalish. The Templars would have some new recruits too.
If Marethari was manipulated by Audacity into setting it free, then I don't see why this claim should be taken to be true. There's no evidence that Audacity could have escaped from the Eluvian.
Considering that Audacity is sundered from the Fade and trapped in a statue, I don't see anything to support the idea that the Eluvian would have freed it.
Honestly lob, you have your perspective on the events of the game and then we have what was said in the game.
Whether you believe it or not, isn't anything more then perspective.
Seriously what the heck does a Dalish mirror have to do with Cullen anyway?
Honestly lob, you have your perspective on the events of the game and then we have what was said in the game.
Whether you believe it or not, isn't anything more then perspective.
Seriously what the heck does a Dalish mirror have to do with Cullen anyway?
You make a post continuing the discussion about Merrill, then you ask why people are discussing Merrill? Why not simply make a post about Cullen?
It was in part response, in part question.
And here is a post about Cullen.
He doesn't have anything to do with the current topic in the thread 
It was in part response, in part question.
And here is a post about Cullen.
He doesn't have anything to do with the current topic in the thread
I think it veered because of how Cullen might view a blood mage protagonist.
I'd think the reaction from a templar could very well be predicted.
Not overly pleased, only one "templar" ever condoned that garbage and he wasn't worthy to wear the crest to begin with.
Not saying he would draw his blade upon a blood mage given they are heading the Inquisition, but i wouldn't be surprised if he wasn't overly cooperative or polite.
I'd think the reaction from a templar could very well be predicted.
Not overly pleased, only one "templar" ever condoned that garbage and he wasn't worthy to wear the crest to begin with.
Not saying he would draw his blade upon a blood mage given they are heading the Inquisition, but i wouldn't be surprised if he wasn't overly cooperative or polite.
I imagine when the protagonist became a blood mage would also be a factor. I would think the player might either be on friendly or antagonistic terms, and that could color things as well.
Given Cullen's templar status, I think he may have varying reactions on a mage in general. A human Circle mage, a Dalish mage, or a Vashoth mage.
I'd also wonder if Cullen would represent an alliance with a templar faction, or if he is on his own.
Considering how Cullen reacted to individual races in the circle Origin i don't think it would overly matter to about race, considering he more or less ignores if the PC is Human, Elf or what have you given they were within the circle, outside the bounds of that though who knows, Apostates are Apostates to Templars after all, there isn't a lot of middle ground on that account.
Speculatively i'd wonder if Cullen remained with the Templars after Kirkwall, i'd assume it would depend largely upon the direction the order was going in.
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