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[thats1evildude]

Oh look. This thread again.

[Andraste_Reborn]

But I do agree with you if he remains a Warden or becomes a wandering drunk. Like...why Kirkwall? Never explained.

Why not Kirkwall? Literal boatloads of Ferelden refugees end up there; he probably just jumped on the first ship leaving Denerim after the Landsmeet and then spent the next few years moping at the Hanged Man. It's not like he had any motivation to go anywhere in particular.

As for why he's there if he's a Warden, they're on their way through town to do Myterious Things and happen to have Alistair with them at the time.

Modifié par Andrastee, 17 février 2014 - 06:13 .

[Fredward]

Know what I don't get? Sports. Makes no sense to me. Plenty of people like it though. I might occasionally look at them askance but whatever floats your boat man. I think Cullen was included in DA2 cuz otherwise there would have been a dearth of sympathetic faces in Kirkwall's templars. And yes his inclusion makes sense in DAI too. So no I don't think it's fanservice. I'm not opposed to fanservice mind, the Citadel DLC was amazing, I just don't think Cullen fits the mould.

[ElementalFury106]

Andrastee wrote...

But I do agree with you if he remains a Warden or becomes a wandering drunk. Like...why Kirkwall? Never explained.

Why not Kirkwall? Literal boatloads of Ferelden refugees end up there; he probably just jumped on the first ship leaving Denerim after the Landsmeet and then spent the next few years moping at the Hanged Man. It's not like he had any motivation to go anywhere in particular.

As for why he's there if he's a Warden, they're on their way through town to do Myterious Things and happen to have Alistair with them at the time.

Well the refugees headed to Kirkwall and other places while Alistair was still fighting the Blight as a Warden. It's possible he went with a later wave of refugees, still...it feels forced in DA:2.

"Mysterious" things isn't an acceptable explanation. I'm not picking on you, I'm directing that towards Bioware.

Whatever may be up, I'm pretty sure the Wardens would've wanted Alistair to stay and lead/rebuild their forces in Fereldan. Just my thought on it.

[ElementalFury106]

Foopydoopydoo wrote...

Know what I don't get? Sports. Makes no sense to me. Plenty of people like it though. I might occasionally look at them askance but whatever floats your boat man. I think Cullen was included in DA2 cuz otherwise there would have been a dearth of sympathetic faces in Kirkwall's templars. And yes his inclusion makes sense in DAI too. So no I don't think it's fanservice. I'm not opposed to fanservice mind, the Citadel DLC was amazing, I just don't think Cullen fits the mould.

I hated Citadel DLC with an intense passion.

[Fredward]

ElementalFury106 wrote...
I hated Citadel DLC with an intense passion.

Differing opinions is the spice of life.

[TheEgoRaptor]

But........ I just want to Kill him...............first encounter, axe to face.

[Orian Tabris]

If Cullen appears in DA:I, I would not be OK if he were a companion (my guess is, he won't be, since he's already had a lot of "screen time"). The only reason to make him a companion instead of just an NPC, would be to cater to the fans of Alistair clones such as him and Anders, or just the Cullen fans.

If we do get another templar companion, I want them to appear a few of games after Alistair (the 2rd or 4th main game after Origins). Spirit Healers, for example, are another matter, since they are pretty much needed in most situations, whetheras templars aren't even needed to fight mages (an assassin rogue would easily take a strong mage out themselves), the only reason to have or be a templar.

[Hanako Ikezawa]

If we were to get a Templar companion, I'd probably say Evangeline would be my first choice. But since we have the Seeker Cassandra already, the likelihood of getting a Templar companion is small.

[The Hierophant]

Besides the fanservice talk, hopefully Cullen can provide some info in regards to where the Red Temps obtained their supply of lyrium from.

[Orian Tabris]

Andrastee wrote...

Why not Kirkwall? Literal boatloads of Ferelden refugees end up there; he probably just jumped on the first ship leaving Denerim after the Landsmeet and then spent the next few years moping at the Hanged Man. It's not like he had any motivation to go anywhere in particular.

Actually, Cullen did not just jump on the first ship leaving Denerim, after the Landsmeet. In Witch Hunt, if your Warden survived the battle with the archdemon, was a female mage and you sided with the mages, it is revealed by 2 surviving mages in the tower, that Greagor sent him to the Greenfall chantry (where it is located is not mentioned) until he cooled off. This happens after the celebration at the end of Origins.

Also, though it is never mentioned, you can assume Cullen never once went to the Hanged Man. In fact, I don't think we ever see him outside the Gallows - assuming he isn't with Meredith when the chantry explodes.

[Orian Tabris]

LDS Darth Revan wrote...

If we were to get a Templar companion, I'd probably say Evangeline would be my first choice. But since we have the Seeker Cassandra already, the likelihood of getting a Templar companion is small.

Indeed. Afterall, Cassandra is a sword and shield warrior, just like Cullen. In Origins every templar uses sword and shield.

[Hanako Ikezawa]

Orian Tabris wrote...

Andrastee wrote...

Why not Kirkwall? Literal boatloads of Ferelden refugees end up there; he probably just jumped on the first ship leaving Denerim after the Landsmeet and then spent the next few years moping at the Hanged Man. It's not like he had any motivation to go anywhere in particular.

Actually, Cullen did not just jump on the first ship leaving Denerim, after the Landsmeet. In Witch Hunt, if your Warden survived the battle with the archdemon, was a female mage and you sided with the mages, it is revealed by 2 surviving mages in the tower, that Greagor sent him to the Greenfall chantry (where it is located is not mentioned) until he cooled off. This happens after the celebration at the end of Origins.

Also, though it is never mentioned, you can assume Cullen never once went to the Hanged Man. In fact, I don't think we ever see him outside the Gallows - assuming he isn't with Meredith when the chantry explodes.

They were talking about Alistair, not Cullen.

[Orian Tabris]

LDS Darth Revan wrote...

Orian Tabris wrote...

Andrastee wrote...

Why not Kirkwall? Literal boatloads of Ferelden refugees end up there; he probably just jumped on the first ship leaving Denerim after the Landsmeet and then spent the next few years moping at the Hanged Man. It's not like he had any motivation to go anywhere in particular.

Actually, Cullen did not just jump on the first ship leaving Denerim, after the Landsmeet. In Witch Hunt, if your Warden survived the battle with the archdemon, was a female mage and you sided with the mages, it is revealed by 2 surviving mages in the tower, that Greagor sent him to the Greenfall chantry (where it is located is not mentioned) until he cooled off. This happens after the celebration at the end of Origins.

Also, though it is never mentioned, you can assume Cullen never once went to the Hanged Man. In fact, I don't think we ever see him outside the Gallows - assuming he isn't with Meredith when the chantry explodes.

They were talking about Alistair, not Cullen.

Ah, haha. I see. Oops.

In all my games, I never make Alistair a drunkard. Granted, I always choose him over Loghain, but if I didn't, chances are, I would leave him as a Grey Warden since I like him. If I played a character who hated Alistair, they'd just want him to die. I doubt they'd have any idea of what his life would be like he you chose Loghain.

In a Cullen thread, shouldn't the focus be on Cullen's arrival in Kirkwall, not Alistair's? It seems very off-topic to be talking about Alsitair's arrival, since it has nothing to do with "the deal with Cullen."

Modifié par Orian Tabris, 17 février 2014 - 08:19 .

[luckycooky]

I hope that hi is not in Dragon age I.But hi probally drops bee if i can kill hem there once and for all i would be super fine whit it.

If hi realy becommes a party member. It would bee a fan service.So then i open  1000 oghren topics before dragon age 4 hits.

But i think not al fan Girls think hi is the  justin bieber Thedas so it only can work out bad.Unless you  option as a female char that you can yell O Cullen your so awsome and bad ass all the time 

Modifié par luckycooky, 17 février 2014 - 08:23 .

[Star fury]

1. Cullen is one of the few characters who developed during two games. Bioware should've shown us his transformation from a damaged youngster in DA:O to experienced templar in DA2.

2. Cullen is a templar(and most probably first templar companion), so writers can show us their point of view with his deeds and dialogs.

3. Cullen is popular amongst female gamers, nothing wrong with that.

Modifié par Star fury, 17 février 2014 - 10:19 .

[Jigglypuff]

I really like his story progression from DAO where he was a mage sympathizer and then the whole broken circle quest making him the opposite, then in DA2 he is allot more mature and neutral especially in the end.

I would like to see where he would go from here . . .

Plus he is cute as a button as you have stated.

[Ananka]

Alaric123 wrote...

But........ I just want to Kill him...............first encounter, axe to face.

Funny, that's how I feel about Cassandra. 

[Lotion Soronarr]

ElementalFury106 wrote...

Then came DA:2 and I absolutely hate how they included Cullen there. It's just so unlikely how he was transfered to Kirkwall of all places after the events of DA:O. I understand there is a large Templar presence in Kirkwall and Meredith probably picked Cullen personally out of his experience and competence, but come on. It just felt like Bioware forced yet another character from a previous game in to please fans or continue their practices of including unlikely cameos.

Arne't you being conflicting here?

Greagoir wanted to put Cullen away from Ferelden Circle.
Meredith was looking for a templar she could trust.
Kirkwall is close and there is a limited number of Circles.

What is so "unlikely" there?

We all know he's back in DA:I. There's lots of debate on whether he's a companion or an NPC, maybe an authority figure for the Templars. Honestly again, I'm not too thrilled with the idea that Cullen appears for yet another game, as if they're just forcing all loved characters into each game as "fan service." Maybe I'm in the minority here, but I'll take an organically structured story and characterization over "fan service" anyday.

Again, what's so strange?
Cullen is the highest-ranking tempalr after Meredith in Kirkwall. There is a mage-templar war going on.
He's going to be one of the bigger players on the templar side, so there's nothing forced about him.

All the other character cameos are 10 times more forced.

All and all, I was always shocked on how popular an insignificant character like Cullen became

You sould like you're new to the internet.

Bit roles and side-characters - even entire shows, books and sthings that one could find nothing special or interesting - often get a massive surge in popularity.
Who can say why?

It just hits the right note for peple. Right place, right time. The Constellations were in place. A butterfly at Alpha Ceti II flapped it's wings.

Modifié par Lotion Soronnar, 17 février 2014 - 10:42 .

[The Elder King]

Orian Tabris wrote...

LDS Darth Revan wrote...

If we were to get a Templar companion, I'd probably say Evangeline would be my first choice. But since we have the Seeker Cassandra already, the likelihood of getting a Templar companion is small.

Indeed. Afterall, Cassandra is a sword and shield warrior, just like Cullen. In Origins every templar uses sword and shield.

Cassandra isn't a s&s warrior. She can use two handed weapons too. It's the player that decides which weapon they use, although restricted to their class.
And I continue to say that Seekers=/= templars. Their skillset could be different (Cassandra will likely not have templars skills). 

[DooomCookie]

Is he confirmed? That's good; I did want him to return, but I do hope he's not a companion. We've seen too much of him already.

[CannotCompute]

Reasons I can think of at the moment:

- He's likeable
- It will be interesting to witness his character development and to have him around as a companion during the war between Mages & Templars
- The voice actor does a good job
- His looks are appealing

Modifié par CannotCompute, 17 février 2014 - 12:10 .

[Hanako Ikezawa]

hhh89 wrote...

Orian Tabris wrote...

LDS Darth Revan wrote...

If we were to get a Templar companion, I'd probably say Evangeline would be my first choice. But since we have the Seeker Cassandra already, the likelihood of getting a Templar companion is small.

Indeed. Afterall, Cassandra is a sword and shield warrior, just like Cullen. In Origins every templar uses sword and shield.

Cassandra isn't a s&s warrior. She can use two handed weapons too. It's the player that decides which weapon they use, although restricted to their class.
And I continue to say that Seekers=/= templars. Their skillset could be different (Cassandra will likely not have templars skills). 

Just to clarify, I was saying that Cassandra's existance as a companion diminishes the chance of a Templar character is because she will already prove the Pro-Chantry side to the Mage-Templar War, not simply because of her class. However, I will admit that due to the schism between the Chantry and it's military branches that a Templar could possibly still lend different view point. Perhaps like:

Cassandra = Chantry
Vivienne = Circle
???? = Templar

[wiccame]

wow Cullen must be a pretty popular character to garner so much attention. He even has the haters posting about him (frequently).

Why worry so much why people like him, its personal preference, we are all entitled to it.

Its no different to why people want Cassandra as a companion and or LI or Varric or anyone else for that matter.

[HSomCokeSniper]

6 playthroughs of DA:O, 4 playthroughs of DA2 and I didn't even remember the character before I read about him in the forums... Whatever.