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[The Elder King]

LobselVith8 wrote...

Zombie_Alexis wrote...

I, too, hope that if Cullen is in DAI, he sticks to his Templar guns, so to speak.

You mean you hope Cullen might be an antagonist to a hypothetical mage Inquisitor by fighting for one of the templar factions, or you hope that he'll be pro-templar even if he's working with an apostate protagonist?

The second, since it can give a mage PC the option of recruit him or not.

[LobselVith8]

hhh89 wrote...

LobselVith8 wrote...

You mean you hope Cullen might be an antagonist to a hypothetical mage Inquisitor by fighting for one of the templar factions, or you hope that he'll be pro-templar even if he's working with an apostate protagonist?

The second, since it can give a mage PC the option of recruit him or not. 

I suppose his recruitment might concern which templar faction that Cullen belongs to, assuming he's still with one of the Orders of Templars. So far, the two main groups seem to be Lambert's faction of Seekers of Truth and the Order of Templars who followed his dissolution of the Nevarran Accord, and the remaining Seekers and templars who have stayed loyal to Divine Justina V.

There's also his fate after the Right of Annulment in Kirkwall. I'm not certain what the ramifications might be for Cullen, depending on whether there are any differences depending on which ending took place - considering Cullen did allow the Champion and his moiety crew to leave the Gallows in the pro-mage ending, which might have been frowned upon by the leadership of the Order of Templars.

I've only mentioned Lambert's faction and Justina's faction because I doubt Cullen is going to be a part of the Red Templars, given that he saw firsthand what happened to Meredith.

[The Elder King]

I think it depends on how his recruitments works, and how the Inqusition will approach the mages and templars' factions at war. Though being with Justinia's might make him redundant, with Cassandra and (possibly) Leliana playing a role already in the Inquisition. Plus, I have a theory that the templars/Seekers at war with the mages will become 'templars' and the ones loyal to the divine will become 'Seekers'. That's based on the early concept of the ring, which might indicate templars and Seekers as different factions.

[CuriousArtemis]

OnionXI wrote...

I guess it stems from that womanly urge to fix people.

LOL Ah yes, those darn womanly urges. Thanks for making me laugh. 

[Silfren]

LobselVith8 wrote...

hhh89 wrote...

LobselVith8 wrote...

You mean you hope Cullen might be an antagonist to a hypothetical mage Inquisitor by fighting for one of the templar factions, or you hope that he'll be pro-templar even if he's working with an apostate protagonist?

The second, since it can give a mage PC the option of recruit him or not. 

I suppose his recruitment might concern which templar faction that Cullen belongs to, assuming he's still with one of the Orders of Templars. So far, the two main groups seem to be Lambert's faction of Seekers of Truth and the Order of Templars who followed his dissolution of the Nevarran Accord, and the remaining Seekers and templars who have stayed loyal to Divine Justina V.

There's also his fate after the Right of Annulment in Kirkwall. I'm not certain what the ramifications might be for Cullen, depending on whether there are any differences depending on which ending took place - considering Cullen did allow the Champion and his moiety crew to leave the Gallows in the pro-mage ending, which might have been frowned upon by the leadership of the Order of Templars.

I've only mentioned Lambert's faction and Justina's faction because I doubt Cullen is going to be a part of the Red Templars, given that he saw firsthand what happened to Meredith.

It will be very interesting to see which side Cullen ultimately comes down on.  I'm loathe to call him a moderate, but he's definitely NOT Meredith or Lambert.  On the other hand, even though he's clearly a pious man, it's not clear whether his piety would push him to support the Divine or Lambert. 

[wildbill]

I'm with you on this one about Cullen. didn't really like him mainly the character and his whole attitude. maybe if they put him inquisition they will give you the opportunity to recruit or kill him like they did zevran in dragonage origins. that way it works for those who like him and those who don't.

[Divine Justinia V]

May I ask why are so many people obsessed with Cullen? I'm not trying to start trouble or anything, I'm just genuinely curious because his character never stood out to me.

[wildbill]

I couldn't tell you didn't like the character Cullen . would have like to have seen what happened to iona's daughter that was left orphaned in the alienage in dragon age origins . always wondered why they never followed through on that one.

[Grieving Natashina]

May I ask why are so many people obsessed with Cullen? I'm not trying to start trouble or anything, I'm just genuinely curious because his character never stood out to me.

 

I asked the same awhile back.  Despite a few cases of trolling, I came out of that thread with an understanding about why some fans are nuts for him.  Myself, I'm pretty indifferent.  I thought he got some good character development between Origins and DA2, and has become a decent potential companion.  Cullen seems alright, though probably not my cup of tea.  

 

I'm a little more excited about Varric coming back to be honest, since he is my favorite Dragon Age character so far.  For what it's worth, no, I don't care if I am ever able to romance him.  I'm gonna have my awseome dwarven platonic lifemate back.  

 

I do know that if Cullen is going to be a companion, I'm going to have to put him and Varric in the same party a few times just to hear the banter.

[Hazegurl]

May I ask why are so many people obsessed with Cullen? I'm not trying to start trouble or anything, I'm just genuinely curious because his character never stood out to me.

Then you'll never really get it since Cullen just isn't for you. I personally don't understand why it's such a big deal if people like him or not.

[Chanda]

I'm really interested to see in what direction the writers take his character, if he has much of a role at all in Inquisition. For all we know, he could have a tiny bit part like Alistair and Teagan did in DA2.

 

I'm curious why the OP thought it was necessary to include what people think of his fanbase in the discussion.

[SamaraDraven]

There are lots of characters that returned, who previously only had bit parts before. Look at Isabela: In DAO she's a minor sidequest encounter you could have a three-some with. But people loved her and she was brought back. Some say we've seen too much of Cullen because he's been in two games, though his part in each wasn't very big. Some say he's fanservice and is too minor and makes no sense to see again, yet he has been at ground zero for Thedas' two most recent huge catastrophes. Cassandra had maybe as much screen time or more as Cullen in DA2 and doesn't have much to do with the story besides stabbing poor defenseless books, bullying Varric and yelling "Bullshit!" Now she has her own movie, is in the books and will be in DA:I. And people loved her when she was just the POV from which Varric's story was being experienced. I didn't get it but I didn't start a thread singling out that one character, or Isabela or Leliana or Zevran, bemoaning how much I didn't understand the clamor for them.I let people like what they like. They need not justify it to me.

 

Now that Cassandra has been developed more, I like her. And I get it. That's all I want for Cullen too. I see potential. He's been in two games and an expansion (for those who want a chance to kill him just play Darkspawn Chronicles) and he has less backstory than Cassandra. In fact, Cass seems like a gender-swapped Cullen clone to me. Chantry supporter, not pro-mage but comes around, warrior... and she has something Cullen doesn't have: a history that we have come to know, a past that helped her become the person she is. Now she makes as much sense to have in Inquisition as Cullen does - probably more. Cullen's fanbase isn't any more odd than Dagna's or Isabela's or Teagan's. Everyone has different tastes. As for the clamor his fans supposedly make? As it has been stated: threads like this are far more common than "OH MAKER I LOVE CULLEN!" threads. So the Big Deal here is really people asking, what's the big deal.

[Kirrahe1]

There are lots of characters that returned, who previously only had bit parts before. Look at Isabela: In DAO she's a minor sidequest encounter you could have a three-some with. But people loved her and she was brought back. Some say we've seen too much of Cullen because he's been in two games, though his part in each wasn't very big. Some say he's fanservice and is too minor and makes no sense to see again, yet he has been at ground zero for Thedas' two most recent huge catastrophes. Cassandra had maybe as much screen time or more as Cullen in DA2 and doesn't have much to do with the story besides stabbing poor defenseless books, bullying Varric and yelling "Bullshit!" Now she has her own movie, is in the books and will be in DA:I. And people loved her when she was just the POV from which Varric's story was being experienced. I didn't get it but I didn't start a thread singling out that one character, or Isabela or Leliana or Zevran, bemoaning how much I didn't understand the clamor for them.I let people like what they like. They need not justify it to me.
 
Now that Cassandra has been developed more, I like her. And I get it. That's all I want for Cullen too. I see potential. He's been in two games and an expansion (for those who want a chance to kill him just play Darkspawn Chronicles) and he has less backstory than Cassandra. In fact, Cass seems like a gender-swapped Cullen clone to me. Chantry supporter, not pro-mage but comes around, warrior... and she something Cullen doesn't have: a history that we have come to know, a past that helped her become the person she is. Now she makes as much sense to have in Inquisition as Cullen does - probably more. Cullen's fanbase isn't any more odd than Dagna's or Isabela's or Teagan's. Everyone has different tastes. As for the clamor his fans supposedly make? As it has been stated: threads like this are far more common than "OH MAKER I LOVE CULLEN!" threads. So the Big Deal here is really people asking, what's the big deal.

^ that right there....amazing. Seriously if I could like that I'd do it until I broke my quota lol!

[DrBlingzle]

Got to agree with this thread, never seen the deal with Cullen.

[Lotion Soronarr]

It will be very interesting to see which side Cullen ultimately comes down on.  I'm loathe to call him a moderate, but he's definitely NOT Meredith or Lambert.  On the other hand, even though he's clearly a pious man, it's not clear whether his piety would push him to support the Divine or Lambert. 

 

Then what is he?

He's not vicious or cruel, he treats mages with respect and mercy, despite that speech people keep overblowing/misinterpreting.

 

I find it funny how many people consider a moderate to be only someone who shares their view 100%

[Dio Demon]

Then what is he?

He's not vicious or cruel, he treats mages with respect and mercy, despite that speech people keep overblowing/misinterpreting.

 

I find it funny how many people consider a moderate to be only someone who shares their view 100%

I think that mages aren't people speech comes from a place of fear. I think he's trying to understand why anyone would essentially mass murder a bunch of people and torture others to break their minds. He seems to be dehumanising them so he himself can sleep at night. His position is quite moderate, he fears magic but doesn't lash out. In his mind he thinks he's trying to protect the majority.

[dragonflight288]

I think that mages aren't people speech comes from a place of fear. I think he's trying to understand why anyone would essentially mass murder a bunch of people and torture others to break their minds. He seems to be dehumanising them so he himself can sleep at night. His position is quite moderate, he fears magic but doesn't lash out. In his mind he thinks he's trying to protect the majority.

 

I took it as part of his trauma in Ferelden still bleeding through. He's only, what, a few months from when he was tortured by blood mages to the point of near-insanity. 

[Sylvianus]

edit : actually, I'll wait before judging.

[Ozzy]

Cullen's okay. I don't feel strongly either way although I find those who take umbrage at those who like him to be amusing. 

 

I would prefer if he isn't a companion though since I'd prefer to see more new companions. Varric and Cassandra are enough for me as far as "returning characters as companions" go. 

[Sylvianus]

Well, for once I'd like a true templar as a companion to be honest. Alistair doesn't count. 

[Divine Justinia V]

Then you'll never really get it since Cullen just isn't for you. I personally don't understand why it's such a big deal if people like him or not.

 

It's really not a big deal at all, and I don't think many other people think it is either, I was just curious. I get why people love every other character, except for him. But anyway,

 

 

I asked the same awhile back.  Despite a few cases of trolling, I came out of that thread with an understanding about why some fans are nuts for him.  Myself, I'm pretty indifferent.  I thought he got some good character development between Origins and DA2, and has become a decent potential companion.  Cullen seems alright, though probably not my cup of tea.  

 

I'm a little more excited about Varric coming back to be honest, since he is my favorite Dragon Age character so far.  For what it's worth, no, I don't care if I am ever able to romance him.  I'm gonna have my awseome dwarven platonic lifemate back.  

 

I do know that if Cullen is going to be a companion, I'm going to have to put him and Varric in the same party a few times just to hear the banter.

 

Thank you for actually answering my question! And for that link, I did some reading

[The Elder King]

I took it as part of his trauma in Ferelden still bleeding through. He's only, what, a few months from when he was tortured by blood mages to the point of near-insanity.

Yup. Those type of events can leave some serious mental scars.

[Veruin]

Yup. Those type of events can leave some serious mental scars.

Doesn't stop people from taking it out of context. 

[pallascedar]

The only thing I don't like about Cullen is I feel like his timeline doesn't make sense. He gets sent away from the Fereldan circle for being unstable and then a year later he's the Knight-Captain in Kirkwall?