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[The Spirit of Dance]

ThisOnesUsername wrote...



That is one sexy pan

Well I just found my Inquisitors Li

[Orian Tabris]

AresKeith wrote...

Orian Tabris wrote...

I know, but technically, for Hawke to be the Amulet of Mara, s/he would have to also get married, or be required for the companion/s to get married (aside from Ave), the latter assuming marriage was ever on the tables prior to the concept of romance.

To be precise, the Amulet of Mara is only used for getting married, not for being in romance.

The point




You

What's wrong with being technically correct? Or is this like in The Big Bang Theory, where Sheldon makes people angry by pointing out that he's smarter?

[Hellion Rex]

someguy1231 wrote...
And let me just say that I find it baffling that many gay gamers apparently support this whole "playersexual" system. Personally, I'd think it'd be insulting that a fictional character's sexuality can swap between gay/straight at the whim of the player as if it were a light switch.

Wow. I support the system cause I only got 1 choice in the previous game, so I welcomed the change. And personally, I don't give a rat's behind if their "sexuality swaps", cause that doesn't happen within my own game.
Edit: You baffle me with your own inept misunderstanding of the situation.

Modifié par eluvianix, 18 février 2014 - 01:17 .

[Orian Tabris]

supremebloodwolf wrote...

ThisOnesUsername wrote...



That is one sexy pan

Well I just found my Inquisitors Li

Chances of thread being locked: +20%.

(Not excluding this post)

[mikeymoonshine]

Sjofn wrote...

Y'all are too hard on Sebastian. He's funnier than he gets credit for!

Um he's ok sometimes but mostly he annoyed the hell out of me. Plus his romane was dreadful, either become a nun or you have to rivalmance him. <_<

[SlottsMachine]

supremebloodwolf wrote...

ThisOnesUsername wrote...



That is one sexy pan

Well I just found my Inquisitors Li

Just think how greasy its about to get. 

[Dio Demon]

someguy1231 wrote...

I've already said in the past that I loathe "playersexual" LIs. It kills immersion for me by reminding me I'm in a programmed, artificial environment, and also feels absurdly playercentric. Characters need to be their own independent entities, not satellites that revolve around the player.

Also, this needs to be emphasized because some people here still don't get it, "playersexual" and "bisexual" do not mean the same thing. An LI who is "playersexual" would be homosexual if they were the same gender as the PC, and heterosexual if they were opposite. The only LI in DA2 who was truly bisexual was Isabela, since she clearly desires both men and women regardless of the PC's gender.

And let me just say that I find it baffling that many gay gamers apparently support this whole "playersexual" system. Personally, I'd think it'd be insulting that a fictional character's sexuality can swap between gay/straight at the whim of the player as if it were a light switch.

Fenris' 'playesexuality' can be accounted for, he's had his memory erased, it's implied that he was Danarius' sex toy as well.

Merrill fell for a Human ... she's a Dalish Elf which is a bad thing in the Dalish community so why wouldn't she also fall for a female Hawke. You know that there's temptation in the forbidden.

Anders' just because he didn't mention his relationship with Carl in Awakening didn't mean that it never happened. If you look closely at him in Awakening his jovial attitude is just a front. 

[Steelcan]

Crazy Eyed One wrote...


Anders' just because he didn't mention his relationship with Carl in Awakening didn't mean that it never happened. If you look closely at him in Awakening his jovial attitude is just a front. 

Imma call bullsh*t on this

[Orian Tabris]

Master Warder Z wrote...

Silfren wrote...

eluvianix wrote...

thats1evildude wrote...

What do you mean "again"? Sebastian was ladies-only.

And the ladies can keep him.
:innocent:

Agreed.

Making the hottest LI in the game the boring, self-righteous prince was the worst thing Bioware has ever done.

Pfft please Bro/Sister.

Fenris minus the angst, and spikey hair was the lankiest elf presented thus far.

._. He is the hottest LI.

Made up description (spikey hair): argument invalid. ^^

Modifié par Orian Tabris, 18 février 2014 - 01:19 .

[They call me a SpaceCowboy]

Sjofn wrote...


They don't like being treated like women get treated is my guess.  My favorite thing about ZOMG ANDERS HIT ON ME is that I have done a lot of ManHawke playthroughs and I have never actually managed to get the dude to hit on me. I always forget which call/response makes it happen and I can't be bothered to go out of my way to figure it out. 

I actually thought it was possible to avoid the flirting so intentionally started a playthrough where I'd avoid it.

Nope, always happens. Or at least, maybe there is one arcane combination that it doesn't happen that I didn't come across

My beef with it is this:

"Wow, I'm stunned that I had to kill my boyfriend like that, I'm traumatised. Hey wanna make out?"

In case anyone has noticed, yes my beef is with the bad writing.

[Hellion Rex]

Shinian2 wrote...

Sjofn wrote...


They don't like being treated like women get treated is my guess.  My favorite thing about ZOMG ANDERS HIT ON ME is that I have done a lot of ManHawke playthroughs and I have never actually managed to get the dude to hit on me. I always forget which call/response makes it happen and I can't be bothered to go out of my way to figure it out. 

I actually thought it was possible to avoid the flirting so intentionally started a playthrough where I'd avoid it.

Nope, always happens. Or at least, maybe there is one arcane combination that it doesn't happen that I didn't come across

My beef with it is this:

"Wow, I'm stunned that I had to kill my boyfriend like that, I'm traumatised. Hey wanna make out?"

In case anyone has noticed, yes my beef is with the bad writing.

Yeah, that did seem rather abrupt.

[General TSAR]

Shinian2 wrote...

"Wow, I'm stunned that I had to kill my boyfriend like that, I'm traumatised. Hey wanna make out?"

It's like something out of Ride to Hell: Retribution. 

Just need the OST and we're all set. 

Modifié par General TSAR, 18 février 2014 - 01:22 .

[thats1evildude]

If you play an aggressive Hawke, you can shut Anders down before the conversation before it ever reaches that point. And you gain zero Rivalry points .

[mikeymoonshine]

I don't think I ever completed an Anders romance because he annoys me too much.

[Silfren]

Sjofn wrote...

Shinian2 wrote...

Silfren wrote...



As was pointed out, I was referring to the DA2 characters.  I should've been clear on that.  Much as I liked Origins, I find DA2's handling of LIs MUCH better.  I don't think players should ever be cut off from the LI they want over something like this.  Especially after removing all such gender-based restrictions in DA2, it would be a woefully backwards move to go back to Origins after giving us DA2 in the first place.

I would have thought Isabela was obviously bi in DA2 as well, and Zevran was in DA2 as well for that one scene. Did he flirt with hawke? I've forgotten.

However yes, I was referring to both games, but left out Leliana since she wasn't in both games. (well, not in any romance sense at least.)

As I stated earlier, what I liked about DAO romances was that there was a buildup over time, story wise, not the Mass Effect style two talks and then sexy-time. I honestly don't care if all the romances are bi as long as they are written as such, and written well.

Isabella is definitely written as bi in DA2, and Zevran hits on Hawke regardless of gender (and if he's going to forget he's in love with my Warden, ain't no way I'm passing up on my Hawkes ALSO having a threesome with Isabella and Zevran ).

I definitely agree the most important thing is that they feel more fleshed out than DA2's did. For all the time-passing mechanic of DA2, they managed to feel sudden and awkward a lot of the time. That was more of a problem with Anders and Merrill than Isabella or Fenris for me, though. Isabella actually feels well-paced, all things considered, and Fenris' issues make the weird jumpiness make some sense. I guess my biggest issue was the "you slept together, now let them MOVE IN or LOSE THEM FOREVER" binary choice for Anders and Merrill.

Also, please let me dump people in DA:I. I hate not being able to dump people if I've decided partway through that a romance is going places I do not want to go. No, that has nothing to do with player-sexuality, but I felt like saying it anyway!

.....I'm sorry, did your game not get shipped with the broken heart options?  You COULD dump people, in both Origins and DA2.  Where is this even coming from?

[mikeymoonshine]

But then tbh all the LI's in DA2 irritated me a bit except for Isabela.

[Master Warder Z_]

Orian Tabris wrote...

Master Warder Z wrote...

Silfren wrote...

eluvianix wrote...

thats1evildude wrote...

What do you mean "again"? Sebastian was ladies-only.

And the ladies can keep him.
:innocent:

Agreed.

Making the hottest LI in the game the boring, self-righteous prince was the worst thing Bioware has ever done.

Pfft please Bro/Sister.

Fenris minus the angst, and spikey hair was the lankiest elf presented thus far.

._. He is the hottest LI.

Made up description (spikey hair): argument invalid. ^^

Pfft whatever then go drool over that pampered noble with his drawl, and chin whiskers.

I prefer Fenris...Spikey hair and all *sighs*

[Grieving Natashina]

mikeymoonshine wrote...

But then tbh all the LI's in DA2 irritated me a bit except for Isabela.

I can relate.  I felt that way about most of the LIs in the NWN games.

[mikeymoonshine]

Silfren wrote...


.....I'm sorry, did your game not get shipped with the broken heart options?  You COULD dump people, in both Origins and DA2.  Where is this even coming from?

I think maybe he meant that you can't dump them whenever you want like in Origins. In fact can you even dump them after the relationship is locked other than by killing them or handing them over to qunari/denarious?

[Dio Demon]

Steelcan wrote...

Crazy Eyed One wrote...


Anders' just because he didn't mention his relationship with Carl in Awakening didn't mean that it never happened. If you look closely at him in Awakening his jovial attitude is just a front. 

Imma call bullsh*t on this

Why, might I ask?

[Steelcan]

Crazy Eyed One wrote...

Steelcan wrote...

Crazy Eyed One wrote...


Anders' just because he didn't mention his relationship with Carl in Awakening didn't mean that it never happened. If you look closely at him in Awakening his jovial attitude is just a front. 

Imma call bullsh*t on this

Why, might I ask?

Because

A. In Awkaening he makes zero indication that he is bisexual
B.  His attitude is not a front in Awakening, I'd argue that DA2 is his altered state on account of Justice.

[Master Warder Z_]

Steelcan wrote...

Crazy Eyed One wrote...

Steelcan wrote...

Crazy Eyed One wrote...


Anders' just because he didn't mention his relationship with Carl in Awakening didn't mean that it never happened. If you look closely at him in Awakening his jovial attitude is just a front. 

Imma call bullsh*t on this

Why, might I ask?

Because

A. In Awkaening he makes zero indication that he is bisexual
B.  His attitude is not a front in Awakening, I'd argue that DA2 is his altered state on account of Justice.

...Those are actually logical objections.

Sometimes you do see black rainbows arching across your sky.

[Seboist]

Hated how Anders went from being a carefree dude who wanted to be free and chase after chicks in Awakening to some sexually confused "WHAT ABOUT THE MAGES?!" angst filled assclown in DA2.

[They call me a SpaceCowboy]

mikeymoonshine wrote...

I don't think I ever completed an Anders romance because he annoys me too much.

I only ever completed Merrils.

I had 3 playthroughs. First was with Merril, second I was rude to everyone (agressive hawke), third, my fem!hawke meant to romance Fenris but ended up ninjaromancing Merril again.

[General TSAR]

You and me both.

I liked DA:A Anders so much I didn't give him to the Templars.....twice!