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[JasonPogo]

What I mean is I hope the romance will play out differently if you are a man or a women.  It is kinda annoying when the only difference is the personal pronoun used in conversations.  It would also greatly increase replayability and give you an incentive to play the game through as the other sex. 

[karushna5]

They already did in DAII it was subtle but absolutely there, I dont want a completely different path, that makes no sense

[Veruin]

You're opening the "Men and women aren't different! They'd be treated the exact same!" can of worms.

[Orian Tabris]

Indeed, OP. That's the least BioWare can do, rather than making it the same no matter who you romance, or which gender your PC is.

[Hanako Ikezawa]

karushna5 wrote...

They already did in DAII it was subtle but absolutely there, I dont want a completely different path, that makes no sense

Yeah, Isabela I know has completely different dialogue for FemHawke than she does BroHawke in the romance scenes. Now most of the dialogue is the same from them, but that's true of the whole game and not just the romance subplots.

[Orian Tabris]

LDS Darth Revan wrote...

karushna5 wrote...

They already did in DAII it was subtle but absolutely there, I dont want a completely different path, that makes no sense

Yeah, Isabela I know has completely different dialogue for FemHawke than she does BroHawke* in the romance scenes. Now most of the dialogue is the same from them, but that's true of the whole game and not just the romance subplots.

* = ManHawke

[Hanako Ikezawa]

Orian Tabris wrote...

LDS Darth Revan wrote...

karushna5 wrote...

They already did in DAII it was subtle but absolutely there, I dont want a completely different path, that makes no sense

Yeah, Isabela I know has completely different dialogue for FemHawke than she does BroHawke* in the romance scenes. Now most of the dialogue is the same from them, but that's true of the whole game and not just the romance subplots.

* = ManHawke

Is that what it is for Hawke? If so, thank you for the correction. I didn't really know so I used Bro due to BroShep.

Modifié par LDS Darth Revan, 18 février 2014 - 12:51 .

[Master Warder Z_]

LDS Darth Revan wrote...

karushna5 wrote...

They already did in DAII it was subtle but absolutely there, I dont want a completely different path, that makes no sense

Yeah, Isabela I know has completely different dialogue for FemHawke than she does BroHawke in the romance scenes. Now most of the dialogue is the same from them, but that's true of the whole game and not just the romance subplots.

Yeah in Fem-Hawke runs Isabela actually does make a lude comment about the implausiblity of that fertility charm working while on the other for Male-Hawke she quickly point it likely won't work.

Ironically enough she then suggests lewd action so perhaps that Fertility amulet actually works...

[Sylvius the Mad]

Orian Tabris wrote...

LDS Darth Revan wrote...

karushna5 wrote...

They already did in DAII it was subtle but absolutely there, I dont want a completely different path, that makes no sense

Yeah, Isabela I know has completely different dialogue for FemHawke than she does BroHawke* in the romance scenes. Now most of the dialogue is the same from them, but that's true of the whole game and not just the romance subplots.

* = ManHawke

And LadyHawke.

[Sentinel358]

I just want subtle comments about the players race to be included in the romance, that seems more important than gender differentiation and id prefer they concentrate on that aspect rather than gender.

Modifié par Sentinel358, 18 février 2014 - 12:59 .

[CybAnt1]

Isabela mentions, I think, both male and female lovers in her past.

She was married and had a husband. He died. She talks about this as part of the HawkeMance.

Again, not to get into real-world politics here, but it does seem while Thedas accepts same-sex relationships, the Chantry will only marry heterosexuals.

So, while the companions may discuss same-sex dalliances in their past, past marriages (including Isabela's) have only been with the opposite sex.

As to topic: yes, the S/S and O/S romances should not use the same dialogue, and should flow differently; I agree. Especially given the different ways these types of relationships are viewed by others on Thedas.

Personally, I think there should even be some romance dialogue variance due to race, but that requires four different sets of dialogue to handle - and in the "voiced dialogue is expensive" world I doubt that will happen.

[karushna5]

I never understand this, I mean Merrill comments how being with a m!hawke would be different due to the possibility of children and what that means as a Dalish, Anders mentions a former lover with M!Hawke and is protective of F!Hawke, Fenris even gets a bonus flirt with M!Hawke.

i was impressed with the variety. I mean there was a whole lot of reactivity, but a totally different romance just because you are a different gender makes absolutely no sense? I dont see how things could differ how you imagine, can you give me an example of how say Merrill would be romanced by different genders?

[Ianamus]

Race should play a large role in how the romance plays out, but gender really shouldn't. It may be hard for a lot of people to believe, but except for physical differences gender really doesn't change all that much when it comes to relationships.

[sandalisthemaker]

JasonPogo wrote...

What I mean is I hope the romance will play out differently if you are a man or a women.  It is kinda annoying when the only difference is the personal pronoun used in conversations.  It would also greatly increase replayability and give you an incentive to play the game through as the other sex. 

There were some differences in dialogue. Sometimes they were subtle. 

[Orian Tabris]

Sylvius the Mad wrote...

Orian Tabris wrote...

LDS Darth Revan wrote...

karushna5 wrote...

They already did in DAII it was subtle but absolutely there, I dont want a completely different path, that makes no sense

Yeah, Isabela I know has completely different dialogue for FemHawke than she does BroHawke* in the romance scenes. Now most of the dialogue is the same from them, but that's true of the whole game and not just the romance subplots.

* = ManHawke

And LadyHawke.

Really? I prefer FemHawke. Rolls off the tongue better since it has less syllables, and it's shorter, and the whole point of shortening it is to write/say it quicker (allowing one to get to the point faster).

The same works with FemShep.

[Orian Tabris]

EJ107 wrote...

Race should play a large role in how the romance plays out, but gender really shouldn't. It may be hard for a lot of people to believe, but except for physical differences gender really doesn't change all that much when it comes to relationships.

Heh. Try telling homophobe Americans that. Especially in Texas.

[CybAnt1]

LadyHawke is popular among some folks because it was a (1985) fantasy movie.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ladyhawke

Such a really sad story. She was a hawk during the day, he was a wolf at night, they were never both in human form at the same time, due to a curse put upon them.

Of course Matthew Broderick "the Mouse" saves the day and ends the curse and everybody lives happily ever after. :happy:

Modifié par CybAnt1, 18 février 2014 - 02:06 .

[Karach_Blade]

Well, I'm a gay transman so it's a bit difficult to RP that in Dragon Age aside from headcanon XD

Aside from that, I'd prefer there was more focus on race than the gender or at least more options to RP a specific romantic personality: i.e a guy who is emotionally moved by the experience of it or a woman who doesn't say 'I love you' because it's all there in the actions. Break out of the "women/men must act emotional/stoic so they must do this" notions!

Modifié par Karach_Blade, 18 février 2014 - 02:39 .

[Hippiethecat124]

I'd like a little more of what they did in DAII, myself. I like to have the race/gender/class of the character to be acknowledged where and when appropriate. By no means would I want all of the dialogue to revolve around it, but it's an appreciated touch, at least for me. That said, I would rather have more related to race/class than gender (as that could easily go very wrong), but.... You know.... I just like reactivity.

[Fast Jimmy]

Orian Tabris wrote...

Sylvius the Mad wrote...

Orian Tabris wrote...

LDS Darth Revan wrote...

karushna5 wrote...

They already did in DAII it was subtle but absolutely there, I dont want a completely different path, that makes no sense

Yeah, Isabela I know has completely different dialogue for FemHawke than she does BroHawke* in the romance scenes. Now most of the dialogue is the same from them, but that's true of the whole game and not just the romance subplots.

* = ManHawke

And LadyHawke.

Really? I prefer FemHawke. Rolls off the tongue better since it has less syllables, and it's shorter, and the whole point of shortening it is to write/say it quicker (allowing one to get to the point faster).

The same works with FemShep.

SheHawke...?

Actually, that sounds like a bad Hannah-Barbara super heroine.

Modifié par Fast Jimmy, 18 février 2014 - 04:23 .

[The Hierophant]

Jimmy remember She-Ra?

[HiroVoid]

Fast Jimmy wrote...

Orian Tabris wrote...

Sylvius the Mad wrote...

Orian Tabris wrote...

LDS Darth Revan wrote...

karushna5 wrote...

They already did in DAII it was subtle but absolutely there, I dont want a completely different path, that makes no sense

Yeah, Isabela I know has completely different dialogue for FemHawke than she does BroHawke* in the romance scenes. Now most of the dialogue is the same from them, but that's true of the whole game and not just the romance subplots.

* = ManHawke

And LadyHawke.

Really? I prefer FemHawke. Rolls off the tongue better since it has less syllables, and it's shorter, and the whole point of shortening it is to write/say it quicker (allowing one to get to the point faster).

The same works with FemShep.

SheHawke...?

Actually, that sounds like a bad Hannah-Barbara super heroine.

It's perfect.

[Battlebloodmage]

Who would win in a fight? She-Hawke or She-Hulk?

[The Hierophant]

Battlebloodmage wrote...

Who would win in a fight? She-Hawke or She-Hulk?

We all win since it ends in sex.

[Cainhurst Crow]

Orian Tabris wrote...

EJ107 wrote...

Race should play a large role in how the romance plays out, but gender really shouldn't. It may be hard for a lot of people to believe, but except for physical differences gender really doesn't change all that much when it comes to relationships.

Heh. Try telling homophobe Americans that. Especially in Texas.

>Implying the rest of the world isn't homophoic, if not more so then in the united states.

Also, it's not about physical differences. It's going against the social norms and cultural differences, much more in the psychological difference, that I think people are focused on.

As well as having the differences between men/woman and elf/dwarf/human/qunari in the romances a bit more pronounced as then it was in DA2.

Modifié par Darth Brotarian, 18 février 2014 - 04:41 .