shodiswe wrote...
The Citadel probably had an even better FTL drive, it was said the larger dreadnaughts were at the limit of the size of something that could travel the Relay network. Therefor the Citadel must have had a vastly superior FTL drive.
Since it was too big to use the relays..
My 3 playthroughs were all high EMS Synthesis so the relays and the citadel were still intact and the Reapers are available to help rebuild the worlds.
Space Opera isn't designated to such spoof-related material as Flash Gordon. Being a space opera just means that it takes liberties with what's scientifically possible/plausible whilst having a bigger focus on the story/adventure rather than the science itself.It had the "potential" to not be serious at least..
It's Space Opera. Not the typical techno-babbly sci fi. It's more about adventure, gallavanting around the galaxy, and shagging space babes.. the genre that spawned the likes of Flash Gordon and Buck Rogers..
Going O/T for a bit, but it sort of relates to the galaxy possessing a means of repairing relays...
I always thought it was a mistake to have the Reapers arrive via conventional FTL travel. It makes the plots of both ME1 and ME2 seem baffling, when the Reapers didn't need to bother at all with the Citadel relay as means of entering the galaxy. When the Keepers failed to respond to Sovereign's signal, why didn't the Reapers simply fly at conventional FTL to the Citadel? They'd have the element of surprise and the combined Council fleets wouldn't have stood a chance. The Citadel would have been captured and the relay network severed just as surely as if the Keepers had responded to orders. Another extinction cycle would have gone according to plan.
It would have been better IMO, if the writers had instead left the Reapers stranded in dark space and needing the relay system as a means to enter the Milky Way. Besides not causing problems with the plots of the first two games, it also potentially provides a means for the galaxy to learn how to build and repair the relay system.
We know that Batarian scientists and military officials who were exposed to the Leviathan of Dis (a partially deactivated Reaper) were indoctrinated, and acting as Reaper sleeper agents. When the Sovereign plot is foiled by Shepard, the Reapers go to plans B (the Collectors) and C (Object Rho). But what if the Reapers also had a plan D in the works? What if as a contingency plan, the Reapers begin construction of a new relay in Batarian space via those indoctrinated scientists and military officials? The Batarians keep it a state secret, with the unindoctrinated involved in the project having no idea where the plans truly originated, and thinking they are involved in a patriotic endeavor. As far as the unindoctrinated know, this newly constructed relay is going to link to the Batarian home system, and humiliate the rest of the galaxy by demonstrating Batarian technological and engineering supremacy.
ME3 begins with the Batarians completing the relay and proudly boasting of its existence to the rest of the galaxy. They activate it, intending to link it to their home system. Instead with the aid of the indoctrinated who are on the project, the relay realigns itself to a relay hidden deep in dark space. The link is established and the entire Reaper Fleet leaps through the relay into Batarian space, and the extinction cycle begins.
Fast forward to the end of the game and you now have a means for the galaxy to rebuild the relay system. The Reapers provided the knowledge of relay construction to the Batarians, and when the extinction cycle ultimately fails, that knowledge is preserved.
I had a similar idea although the Reapers would invade by the end of ME2 and the project secretly has the remnants of the Heretics working along side the Batarians. The new Suicide Mission would be merged with the Arrival DLC and exist to isolate the Batarian systems from the rest of the galaxy (or something like that). Possibly, the new big decision at the end would be to actually blow up one of the linking Relays stalling the invasion (Renegade) or not to (Paragon).
Reaper corpses should help since it is the same technology.
Am I the only here who thinks it's absolutely ricidulous that in the MEU they don't even try to unlock the secrets of the relays?
Am I the only here who thinks it's absolutely ricidulous that in the MEU they don't even try to unlock the secrets of the relays?
I always presumed that those kinds of experiments existed or were done in the past, there is after all a fair amount of knowledge about the relays, but they were discontinued when they stopped producing results or the races lacked the technological advancement of some one like the Protheans, needed to advance the research. Similar to how I view the species reactions towards the Keepers, the Asari and Salarians probably ran research on them thousands of years ago but when they discovered nothing they discontinued it and wrote the law requiring people to leave them alone.
I always presumed that those kinds of experiments existed or were done in the past, there is after all a fair amount of knowledge about the relays, but they were discontinued when they stopped producing results or the races lacked the technological advancement of some one like the Protheans, needed to advance the research. Similar to how I view the species reactions towards the Keepers, the Asari and Salarians probably ran research on them thousands of years ago but when they discovered nothing they discontinued it and wrote the law requiring people to leave them alone.
But that's not how human's work. I can't speak for the aliens, and humanity hasn't been on the galactic scene for very long, but there's got to be at least a dozen human's going absolutely NUTS about not understanding them fully, dedicating their whole being to try and solve it.
Now if only human's work like that then there's some room in the game for the technology not being fully understood yet. But if the aliens work the same way (and I deem this very likely), there have been legions of organics going absolutely nuts about not understanding it yet for millenia. They would never stop. They would die not understanding maybe, but there'd always be groups of people trying.
We never see this in the game, it's not even spoken of.
Same goes for the keeper law... has always baffled me, from the very first time I played the game. Now matter how impressed I was with what I saw. (can you remember the first time you got on the Citadel, and how immensely awesome that felt? That's where I fell in love with ME)
Why would you NOT research them? They are tending to your home, your seat of government. You'd want to understand that.
But that's not how human's work. I can't speak for the aliens, and humanity hasn't been on the galactic scene for very long, but there's got to be at least a dozen human's going absolutely NUTS about not understanding them fully, dedicating their whole being to try and solve it.
Now if only human's work like that then there's some room in the game for the technology not being fully understood yet. But if the aliens work the same way (and I deem this very likely), there have been legions of organics going absolutely nuts about not understanding it yet for millenia. They would never stop. They would die not understanding maybe, but there'd always be groups of people trying.
We never see this in the game, it's not even spoken of.
Same goes for the keeper law... has always baffled me, from the very first time I played the game. Now matter how impressed I was with what I saw. (can you remember the first time you got on the Citadel, and how immensely awesome that felt? That's where I fell in love with ME)
Why would you NOT research them? They are tending to your home, your seat of government. You'd want to understand that.
As for the Keepers I assumed they had been experimented on for hundreds of years. Maybe after not unveiling any information the funding and desire to do so dried up. And after centuries if not millennia of the Keepers being nothing but helpful they probably just summed it up as them being a strange race of quiet, helpful aliens. I think the explanation is game is that they figured they were created by the Protheans to simply maintain the station. The same could be said for the Relays.
As for the humans they probably aren't experimenting on the Keepers because of the law and they could be investigating the Relays in the background of the game, but it never gets brought up because nothing of importance is discovered. In ME2 there are news reports about the discoveries of so-and-so science experiment but they only get announced when there is a breakthrough. It never really bothered me, there is also a bunch of trade and military stuff that's never mentioned but presumably happens.
I think the answer is obvious: Keepers
They can fix all parts of the Citadel, why not the relays?
Thank you for the visual of Keepers in tiny space suits with tiny welding torches.
Am I the only here who thinks it's absolutely ricidulous that in the MEU they don't even try to unlock the secrets of the relays?
Another thing to consider is if you can reprogram relays to connect at different points. Both the Mu and Alpha relays could send you almost anywhere, and where both similar in design and size to regular relays. If it's a simple modification, you could modify the Arcturus relay and go as far as Rannoch if they have managed to fix things at their end.
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