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[SurfaceBeneath]

Nozybidaj wrote...

jlb524 wrote...

SurfaceBeneath wrote...


One dimensional, has 0 personality/story arc when Shepard is not involved, and plays the "shy virgin" thing to an annoying degree.

I thought you were talking about Tali for a second there...

I thought he was talking about Tali since Liara actually has her own story arc without any involvment of  Shepard.

Explain. What story arc does she have that does not involve Shepard.

[jlb524]

SurfaceBeneath wrote...

jlb524 wrote...
I thought you were talking about Tali for a second there...

Hating on a character because they're popular is so adorable :innocent:

I don't hate Tali.  I was pointing out her similarities to Liara (a character I love).

[InvaderErl]

jlb524 wrote...

SurfaceBeneath wrote...

jlb524 wrote...
I thought you were talking about Tali for a second there...

Hating on a character because they're popular is so adorable :innocent:

I don't hate Tali.  I was pointing out her similarities to Liara (a character I love).

So you think they both have 0 personality. ???

[RyrineaNara]

No thank you, I'd rather not bash a pixel character its a waste of time..... >.<

[SurfaceBeneath]

RyrineaNara wrote...

No thank you, I'd rather not bash a pixel character its a waste of time..... >.<

Really? I find games that let me wield maces and crush my virtual enemies almost universally a fun diversion.

[Gabey5]

RyrineaNara wrote...

No thank you, I'd rather not bash a pixel character its a waste of time..... >.<

yet you had the time to post that it was a waste of your time...

[Barquiel]

SurfaceBeneath wrote...

Notice that not once when you come to Tali's rescue is she not actively trying to facilitate her own escape or is just waiting to be rescued.

Haestrom?

Kal'Reegar fights on Haestrom, not Tali (she locked herself in a room)

[SurfaceBeneath]

InvaderErl wrote...

jlb524 wrote...

SurfaceBeneath wrote...

jlb524 wrote...
I thought you were talking about Tali for a second there...

Hating on a character because they're popular is so adorable :innocent:

I don't hate Tali.  I was pointing out her similarities to Liara (a character I love).

So you think they both have 0 personality. ???

Oh ho! He has you there!

[Nozybidaj]

[SurfaceBeneath]

Barquiel wrote...

SurfaceBeneath wrote...

Notice that not once when you come to Tali's rescue is she not actively trying to facilitate her own escape or is just waiting to be rescued.

Haestrom?

Kal'Reegar fights on Haestrom, not Tali (she locked herself in a room)

Tali didn't expect to get saved on Haestrom, she expected to die for the fleet. She's just spending the last few moments she has there uploading the data so that the sacrifice of her entire squad there was worth it. Shepard getting there in time was a pure coincidence.

It's also worth noting that in the room you find her in there are several Geth corpses, so she was fighting them off as well.

[RyrineaNara]

SurfaceBeneath wrote...

RyrineaNara wrote...

No thank you, I'd rather not bash a pixel character its a waste of time..... >.<

Really? I find games that let me wield maces and crush my virtual enemies almost universally a fun diversion.

lol 

[InvaderErl]

Nozybidaj wrote...

How'd you get a picture of my Dog?

[Pannamaslo]

yoshibb wrote...

I don't get this logic at all. Tali is
by far a worse damsel in distress character than Liara, I have to save
her twice and fix her problems on the flotilla.

Garrus spends ten times more dialogue whining about his life at CSec and the world in general than Kaidan does.

And
yet no one ****es about them. But the only two people who actually are
interested in you and worried about the problems you're dealing with,
are the ones that are hated on. It just irritates me to no end.

But Garrus whines in a sexy voice, and Kaidan whines in annoying Carth voice. IN ME 2 Garrus is a badass vigilante  and Kaidan still whines in annoying Carth voice. Nah...That can't be this...

[InvaderErl]

This is true. Garrus could be telling me about how he took a dump and I'd still think it would sound cool.

[yoshibb]

SurfaceBeneath wrote...

yoshibb wrote...

I don't get this logic at all. Tali is by far a worse damsel in distress character than Liara, I have to save her twice and fix her problems on the flotilla.
 

Distressed Damsel

Don't expect her to do anything to aid her own escape either. Quite the contrary: the existence of a Damsel In Distress often precipitates a Dulcinea Effect. (And don't
expect anyone to give her any slack on this, even if the poor girl
would logically *not* have the skills or abilities needed to help.) Some damsels do try to talk back or plan their escape, but this is still rare - and it doesn't usually work.

Notice that not once when you come to Tali's rescue is she not actively trying to facilitate her own escape or is just waiting to be rescued.

You really think she'd be able to get out of there without your help? That's not a good definition. I've seen plenty of movies where the girls pretend to help, but it does nothing to help their situation. That's the point of a DiD, she messed up so bad twice, that she basically had to lock herself in a room and wait for a rescue. They may act like she was doing things to help, but if Shepard never showed up, she'd be dead.

Not to mention the first game where she finds herself with shadow broker and you have to rescue her again. So that's three times. Compared to Liara's one, where she gets stuck, you let her down, and you never have to worry about her again.   

[Stanley Woo]

I think you could very easily discuss this in the Liara thread in the ME2 Official Campaign forum.



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