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[jsachun]

WilliamShatner wrote...

Liara is an intelligent, sweet-hearted girl. What sort of jerk do you have to be to hate her?

A jerk who likes bigger ******.

[Captain Jazz]

Funkcase wrote...

Captain Jazz wrote...

Aradace wrote...

Captain Jazz wrote...

I like Liara... although her voice annoys me. I also like Ashley, but I always play as a She-pard, so no Ash secks for me =(
Btw... Ash never really goes into detail about what god she believes in does she? What's with all the assumption that she's a christy fundie?

Because you can have the convo with her about her dad watching on from the afterlife.  And because of her scolding the Salarian for committing Hara-kiri lol...As far as I know, only the "christian" based religions find suicide to be "unforgivable"

True... but lots of religions have an afterlife, and this is 200 years in the future, maybe she follows some bizarre evolution of Pastafarianism which has become a true religion by this time? I've never gone with her to Noveria, so I don't know exactly what she says, but maybe, as a hardassed grunt, she is berating him for cowardice rather than sin? I dunno... I am approaching this discussion from a position of ignorance, so feel free to ignore me if I'm talking [poopy].

Ash only said ''its a shame god only gives you one shot at life'' nothing bad. And i doubt she is against suicide considering she was willing to sacrifice herself on virmire.

Hmm. So she's probably not a Hindu then...
I think there is a bit of a difference between being willing to commit suicide and being willing to sacrifice yourself for the benefit of your crewmates - that's not suicide, it's a warrior's death. All for one and one for all *swords* and all that... although I do see the point.

[on topic] BOOOO! Down with space tentacle smurfs! [/on topic]

Aradace wrote...

No, you're not talking poopity-poop
lol.  It's a legitamite angle...I admit BioWare is a little vague on
this aspect of her character and probably did so on purpose.  I suppose
it more "assumed" she is a christian etc. due to innuendo of context
than actual "facts."

...it censored ****... I dun like being censored...
To be fair, I assumed she was christian at first too... I suppose they leave it open a little so that you can assume that she shares the religious views (if any) of your Shepard? If she still lives in ME2, I want to be able to convince her of the futility of believing in god and utterly destroy her worldview

Modifié par Captain Jazz, 21 janvier 2010 - 12:56 .

[Aradace]

WilliamShatner wrote...

Liara is an intelligent, sweet-hearted girl. What sort of jerk do you have to be to hate her?

Because she's weak physically and seems too dependant on others.  that's why.  I respect strong women.  Not someone who's going to squeal and run cover behind me every time there's danger.

[Kreid]

Now, now kids, just because we all know Liara>>>>>Ashley you don't have to try and pick on her

Modifié par Creid-X, 21 janvier 2010 - 12:57 .

[Aradace]

Creid-X wrote...

Now, now kids, just because we all know Liara>>>>>Ashley you don't have to try and pick on her

I suppose if you like weak women she's ok

[Funkcase]

GnusmasTHX wrote...

Jared_704 wrote...

Aradace wrote...

Next, in a strait up fist fight, Ashley would smear the deck with Liara

I want to see this. Preferrably semi-nude and in the mud.

Why not just full nude... and in a pool of jello.

Finaly something we Ash and the Liara fans can both agree on, come in Miranda, Suze, Samara, Tali, get in here now Kelly!

[Aradace]

Funkcase wrote...

GnusmasTHX wrote...

Jared_704 wrote...

Aradace wrote...

Next, in a strait up fist fight, Ashley would smear the deck with Liara

I want to see this. Preferrably semi-nude and in the mud.

Why not just full nude... and in a pool of jello.

Finaly something we Ash and the Liara fans can both agree on, come in Miranda, Suze, Samara, Tali, get in here now Kelly!

Rumble of the Roses ala Mass Effect Style!!! Hooorah!! lol

[Spaghetti_Ninja]

Funkcase wrote...

GnusmasTHX wrote...

Jared_704 wrote...

Aradace wrote...

Next, in a strait up fist fight, Ashley would smear the deck with Liara

I want to see this. Preferrably semi-nude and in the mud.

Why not just full nude... and in a pool of jello.

Finaly something we Ash and the Liara fans can both agree on, come in Miranda, Suze, Samara, Tali, get in here now Kelly!

Women's nude mud wrestling is the one thing that can unite people of all races, cultures, and religions.

[Kreid]

Aradace wrote...

Creid-X wrote...

Now, now kids, just because we all know Liara>>>>>Ashley you don't have to try and pick on her

I suppose if you like weak women she's ok

You know what I like respect more than strong women? intelligent ones with which you can actually talk and their only sign of intelligence isn't reciting poetry.
I don't think we should have aliens aboooooard "skipper" balah blah

[jsachun]

Spaghetti_Ninja wrote...

Funkcase wrote...

GnusmasTHX wrote...

Jared_704 wrote...

Aradace wrote...

Next, in a strait up fist fight, Ashley would smear the deck with Liara

I want to see this. Preferrably semi-nude and in the mud.

Why not just full nude... and in a pool of jello.

Finaly something we Ash and the Liara fans can both agree on, come in Miranda, Suze, Samara, Tali, get in here now Kelly!

Women's nude mud wrestling is the one thing that can unite people of all races, cultures, and religions.

 Can it unite sex? I doubt it, unless you got something hanging physically or mentally.

[Aradace]

Creid-X wrote...

Aradace wrote...

Creid-X wrote...

Now, now kids, just because we all know Liara>>>>>Ashley you don't have to try and pick on her

I suppose if you like weak women she's ok

You know what I like respect more than strong women? intelligent ones with which you can actually talk and their only sign of intelligence isn't reciting poetry.
I don't think we should have aliens aboooooard "skipper" balah blah

Yea, let me know when talking gets you out of that firefight when bullets are whizzing past you...Let me know how that turns out for you because Ive been there bro

[Funkcase]

Liara aint that intelligent when the subject aint about the protheans, she dosent know what sarcasim is lol.

[Gambit One]

I think that maybe since the ME2 characters have been revealed, we have all started to realize that the only interesting characters in ME1 were Wrex and Garrus

[Captain Jazz]

Aradace wrote...

Creid-X wrote...

Aradace wrote...

Creid-X wrote...

Now, now kids, just because we all know Liara>>>>>Ashley you don't have to try and pick on her

I suppose if you like weak women she's ok

You know what I like respect more than strong women? intelligent ones with which you can actually talk and their only sign of intelligence isn't reciting poetry.
I don't think we should have aliens aboooooard "skipper" balah blah

Yea, let me know when talking gets you out of that firefight when bullets are whizzing past you...Let me know how that turns out for you because Ive been there bro

"Lets try another pub, yeah?"
But come on, sure, Ash can dakka them to death, but Liara can manipulate the fabric of reality and rip them to shreds with rapidly fluctuating gravity fields!


...Why could we never woo Tali? I wanna woo Tali... C'mon bioware, make her wooable for ME2, y'know ya wanna! (Envirosuit schmenvirosuit)

[GnusmasTHX]

I honestly don't know why people think Liara is weak. The only thing you ever do for her is deactivate the Prothean shield doo-hickey.

In fact; if you even follow her conversations, you'd know she's pretty much a scapper, and has used her biotics to defend herself before, when she's out on dangerous planets. She's one of the strongest members of your squad, obviously, being a biotic and all.

If you expected Liara to get out of Feros unharmed on her own, when you the player does it with a giant ship in orbit, a tank, and two equally badass squad-mates armed to the teeth with every type of weapon and skill... Then really... Liara is only "weak" compared to Wonder Woman.

InB4 "NO UZ JUST A LIARA FANBOI"

I just porked her cuz she was blue.

Modifié par GnusmasTHX, 21 janvier 2010 - 01:09 .

[Nissun]

Hey, I'm not a great fan of "hate threads", but I feel like I need to express my dislike of Liara.

Because she is a whiny damsel in distress (it's just an expression, I know we save her "only" once), and her attitude and way of speaking are intended to be "cute and likeable", when in reality she's extremely annoying. She's like a mary-sue, like, she's been working alone for decades, an expert on protheans, but also a natural super-amazing biotic.

Ashley and Kaidan are Alliance soldiers. Wrex is an experienced battlemaster. Tali received training for her pilgrimage. Garrus has the turian military training and he's a C-Sec officer.

Liara is a prothean expert with "the natural biotic talents of her species". Also, she's barely 18. What are the chances of her having any experience in real combat? If she would have stayed at the Normandy the whole time, she'd been a more believable character.

And when she appears, the main character (Shepard) automatically connects with her. Like, they sooo love each other.

At least Ashley was a soldier, and thus competent in the battlefield because she's a professional, and part of the Alliance, having something in common with Shepard that makes their bonding a bit more believable.

Sorry, I don't like Liara. I respect the ones that do, and maybe see those qualities as positive, but Liara is not an action girl. She's not. No.

Modifié par Nissun, 21 janvier 2010 - 01:09 .

[Kreid]

Yea, let me know when talking gets you out of that firefight when bullets are whizzing past you...Let me know how that turns out for you because Ive been there bro

Well, i'm surely not going to debate real life for a certain number of reasons, but if you're talking about in-game, not only Liara can possibly crush Ashley with her Biotics (don't see the point of people saying Liara can't do anything without Biotics because is the same as saying Ash can't do jack without her combat training, it is true, but incosecuential given the fact these are traits inherent to the characters and they wouldn't  even be said characters without them) but for a relationship I prefer someone I actually can stand.

Besides I don't really need Liara to cover my back that's what Wrex/grunt are for 

[Aradace]

Funkcase wrote...

Liara aint that intelligent when the subject aint about the protheans, she dosent know what sarcasim is lol.

Took the words strait from my mouth....

Gambit One wrote...

I think that maybe since the ME2 characters have been revealed, we have all started to realize that the only interesting characters in ME1 were Wrex and Garrus

This is very true as well lol

[GnusmasTHX]

Nissun wrote...

Hey, I'm not a great fan of "hate threads", but I feel like I need to express my dislike of Liara.

Because she is a whiny damsel in distress (it's just an expression, I know we save her "only" once), and her attitude and way of speaking are intended to be "cute and likeable", when in reality she's extremely annoying. She's like a mary-sue, like, she's been working alone for decades, an expert on protheans, but also a natural super-amazing biotic.

Ashley and Kaidan are Alliance soldiers. Wrex is an experienced battlemaster. Tali received training for her pilgrimage. Garrus has the turian military training and he's a C-Sec officer.

Liara is a prothean expert with "the natural biotic talents of her species". Also, she's barely 18. What are the chances of her having any experience in real combat? If she would have stayed at the Normandy the whole time, she'd been a more believable character.

And when she appears, the main character (Shepard) automatically connects with her. Like, they sooo love each other.

At least Ashley was a soldier, and thus competent in the battlefield because she's a professional, and part of the Alliance, having something in common with Shepard that makes their bonding a bit more believable.

Sorry, I don't like Liara. I respect the ones that do, and maybe see those qualities as positive, but Liara is not an action girl. She's not. No.

Like I said, Liara has fought before the events of ME1, if you follow her conversations. She can take care of herself, all you did was turn a switch off to save her.

You had to save Ashley and Tali, as well.

Also, magic mind meld is also a good way to bond with someone.

Modifié par GnusmasTHX, 21 janvier 2010 - 01:12 .

[Arrtis]

Aradace wrote...

WilliamShatner wrote...

Liara is an intelligent, sweet-hearted girl. What sort of jerk do you have to be to hate her?

Because she's weak physically and seems too dependant on others.  that's why.  I respect strong women.  Not someone who's going to squeal and run cover behind me every time there's danger.

according to her she did quite find by herself going around the galaxy using biotics when needed...she just isnt strong enough to wipe out a battalion or two of geth.
*story wise most of your characters arent maybe wrex could*
-_-5 12 am so sleepy

[jsachun]

Give Liara a handy pistol & throw & lift abilties & she is as good as anyone in a battle. She should be able to take down most enemy with one ability hit.

[Aradace]

Creid-X wrote...

Yea, let me know when talking gets you out of that firefight when bullets are whizzing past you...Let me know how that turns out for you because Ive been there bro

Well, i'm surely not going to debate real life for a certain number of reasons, but if you're talking about in-game, not only Liara can possibly crush Ashley with her Biotics (don't see the point of people saying Liara can't do anything without Biotics because is the same as saying Ash can't do jack without her combat training, it is true, but incosecuential given the fact these are traits inherent to the characters and they wouldn't  even be said characters without them) but for a relationship I prefer someone I actually can stand.

Besides I don't really need Liara to cover my back that's what Wrex/grunt are for 

And hence the meat of the matter....I can relate better to Ashley because she is more "believable" than Liara.  I cant stand the "cutesy" and as someone else put it "damsel in distress" mentality. 

[Aradace]

jsachun wrote...

Give Liara a handy pistol & throw & lift abilties & she is as good as anyone in a battle. She should be able to take down most enemy with one ability hit.

Actually, game mechanic wise, I used to run with Liara and Ash as my squadmates in ME1 and can you guess who it is that died the most between the two? Ill give you a hint: It wasnt Ash lol.

[Arrtis]

your forgetting your romancing someone who is like 18....not much experience....

And for her the part of her life she was in was the stage where you go out learn and experience things...THEn mate with someone.So im guessing she was a lil hesitant because it goes against her culture or something.

[SurfaceBeneath]

WilliamShatner wrote...

Liara is an intelligent, sweet-hearted girl. What sort of jerk do you have to be to hate her?

A jerk who likes interesting characters that are not just nerd-bait.

BADDA BAM!