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[insomniac13]

My first playthroughs of Mass Effect back in the day were usually with my Manshep, because, well i'm a guy and i wanted to live in the world through this avatar. These days however i really only play Manshep so i can romance Tali! As i've become older I've come to prefer Femshep. Not only is she a bad ass female character (rare in video games) but she's voiced by freaking Jennifer Hale! Rest assured, my Femshep is always a bad ass, a true Renegade with a Paragon side. The love of her life is Liara, because... Liara!!!

Modifié par insomniac13, 20 février 2014 - 11:02 .

[congokong]

StreetMagic wrote...

congokong wrote...

StreetMagic wrote...

I'm not sure what I'm disagreeing about.. if I am at all.

I'm saying all of these combos have unique pathways/story possibilities. Nothing more.

Then you should have just agreed. I'm reiterating that the only background option that says anything about who you are regarding personality is "ruthless." Colonist/ruthless adds to it because of the slaver connection. Spacer/earthborn contribute nothing.

Oh, in that case, I won't agree. I came into this thread saying the origins are the main things that help me come up with different character concepts. I'm not going to change my mind. It's up to you if you can't see any personality in the different options. I merely encourage you to brainstorm more possibilities. I'm not here to debate about it.

I'm just stating facts as defined by the ME codex. Anything regarding sole survivor and war hero is kind of a blank slate involving Shepard's personality with nothing predetermined. By that I mean is Shepard more practical or idealistic? That philosophy is the basis for many of the game's decisions.

[Mr.House]

Sion1138 wrote...

starlitegirlx wrote...

No, my gender doesn't enter into it at all. If Mark didn't suck beyond words, I would have loved to play male shep and try the different romances. In fact, having a male voice that is good at voice acting would have made it especially enjoyable. As it was, playing male shep with Mark doing the voice was just tedious. He sounded like he was reading a very boring book. No inflections. No sense of motivation. And when you listen to every other voice actor in the game, it's even worse. Look at Garrus. Look at Liara. Look at Tali. Even Anderson telling you he was born in London every twenty minutes like he's on the verge of Dementia does it better than anything Mark did in ME1 and ME2 combined. I don't even think I finished playing 2.

Skyrim is a different story. So many races and you really don't actually see your character if you run it first person. It's clip free, which I've come to appreciate after all the cutscenes that we got for ME3 - made it half movie, half game. Less fun. But if I am going to see the scenes, I would have loved to do one male shep that was the model they chose and then create one of my own. I feel like Mark's bad voice acting took that away from me. I started the game with male shep and then switched to female because I couldn't get into it. That's when all my fun began. But I really did try to go back to Male shep twice after that.

So you don't project, you don't enter into the world as some derivative of yourself.

From my point of view, that's a basic requirement. How can I bring myself to genuinely care about events and choices made if the character I am inhabiting has no relation to myself in their views and traits?

It's called role playing for a reason, you are playing a diffrent character, you do not need to project yourself at all. I tend to play manipulating characters, does that mean I'm also manipulative in real life? No because I don't project, nor should people do that in a RPG.

If I get connected to the characters and world is because it's well written.

Modifié par Mr.House, 20 février 2014 - 11:12 .

[Invisible Man]

StreetMagic wrote...

congokong wrote...

StreetMagic wrote...

congokong wrote...

StreetMagic wrote...

I'm not sure what I'm disagreeing about.. if I am at all.

I'm saying all of these combos have unique pathways/story possibilities. Nothing more.

Then you should have just agreed. I'm reiterating that the only background option that says anything about who you are regarding personality is "ruthless." Colonist/ruthless adds to it because of the slaver connection. Spacer/earthborn contribute nothing.

Oh, in that case, I won't agree. I came into this thread saying the origins are the main things that help me come up with different character concepts. I'm not going to change my mind. It's up to you if you can't see any personality in the different options. I merely encourage you to brainstorm more possibilities. I'm not here to debate about it.

I'm just stating facts as defined by the ME codex. Anything regarding sole survivor and war hero is kind of a blank slate involving Shepard's personality with nothing predetermined. By that I mean is Shepard more practical or idealistic? That philosophy is the basis for many of the game's decisions.

I can agree at least that Ruthless is explicitly spelling out some personality traits. I just think the others leave room for personality too, you just have to read between the lines more (like I said with War Hero, for example.. they rallied the colonists. That says enough about their personality to make some assumptions).

I think they can all give you ideas about personality, though, they don't really tie you down, it could be an interesting playthrough to rp characters that counter the surface traits; ie,  a war hero who became fed up with being a hero, or a ruthless commando seeking redemption... etc. 

[congokong]

Invisible Man wrote...

I think they can all give you ideas about personality, though, they don't really tie you down, it could be an interesting playthrough to rp characters that counter the surface traits; ie,  a war hero who became fed up with being a hero, or a ruthless commando seeking redemption... etc. 

Some people do things like a ruthless paragon seeking redemption. You have to headcanon it all though because your reputation is someone who gets the job done. "Get the job done" is why ruthless says so much about your Shepard. It screams practicality and defined many of my Shepard's decisions. Even she had limits though. She wouldn't cross her moral line by overloading the reactor in the Omega DLC just so Aria T'Loak didn't have to fight mechs for one more minute. It made her compromise the mission; something she rarely did.

[Sion1138]

Mr.House wrote...

It's called role playing for a reason, you are playing a diffrent character, you do not need to project yourself at all. I tend to play manipulating characters, does that mean I'm also manipulative in real life? No because I don't project, nor should people do that in a RPG.

If I get connected to the characters and world is because it's well written.

Yes but you could imagine yourself being manipulative, you can get into it. I never said you transfer everything into the game world, that isn't even possible because the environment is different. The point is the ability to relate.

I started talking about this because I couldn't ever possibly get into it as a character of the opposite sex, it's impossible. So I'm curious as to how and why other people do it. Don't bring any shoulds or should nots into it.

Also, what does that mean? Well written. What is it about the writing that gets you and in what way? And what is truly unique about the format of role-playing if it's just about the writing in general?

How is the experience different from any other type of game, or a film or novel? You could have a film that would offer you a choice between different scenarios, but it wouldn't do anything except expand the amount of content. So you could see the movie in ten different ways, but it's still just a movie.

Modifié par Sion1138, 21 février 2014 - 01:25 .

[cap and gown]

congokong wrote...

Some people do things like a ruthless paragon seeking redemption. You have to headcanon it all though because your reputation is someone who gets the job done. "Get the job done" is why ruthless says so much about your Shepard. It screams practicality and defined many of my Shepard's decisions. Even she had limits though. She wouldn't cross her moral line by overloading the reactor in the Omega DLC just so Aria T'Loak didn't have to fight mechs for one more minute. It made her compromise the mission; something she rarely did.

No kiss for you.

[von uber]

Funnily enough. .. tonight shepard did get the prizzzeee.

Modifié par von uber, 21 février 2014 - 01:31 .

[Cortyman]

Xemnas07 wrote...

 So, is it just me, or does anyone else feel just... wrong playing as femshep? I mean, I'm not anti-feminist or anything, and Jennifer Hale does a great job with her voice acting, but for some reason, playing as femshep just doesnt feel right to me. I started my first playthrough as femshep in ME1 and when i thought about getting to the citadel DLC with her, i just couldnt do it; i cant picture anyone else but my default shep saying goodbye to the crew one last time.

Maybe some day I'll be able to complete a playthrough with her, but that is not this day.

I liked Jennifer Hale in ME1 but I think her voice acting for the character went downhill in ME2 and ME3. There are of course a few outstanding moments. But I think Mark Meer really improved his voice acting in ME2 and ME3 and I think it is because he actually plays the game, as a Renegade and a Paragon. Since he plays the game, he knows how to bring the character to life, that's why he improved. Jennifer Hale I believe hasn't even completed ME2. If she did play Mass Effect, maybe she could bring Shepard more to life like Mark Meer.

This isn't me trying to put down Jennifer Hale by the way, she is very successful and talented. I have played Mass Effect 3 with femshep and all DLC's, but I don't think I will ever play her again. I am currently finishing off my whole triliogy playthrough with my male Shepard, and if I had to play again, I would play again with the male.

[eyezonlyii]

I usually play a custom broshep. Gabriel is dark skinned and a spacer (my mother was in the military, so that resonates with me personally)/sole survivor. I think the SS background really does speak to the personality Shepard has...the drive to live.

Suffice to say, he is my player avatar into the world.

Veronique Shepard however, is cold sonova...she's Earthborn and Ruthless, traits that I have no experience with, on top of not being a woman. Even so, I can still see part of me in her, so I have no problem playing her way through the world. I (like a few people on here have expressed as well) just wish she was more physically imposing to go along with the story.

[Invisible Man]

eyezonlyii wrote...

I usually play a custom broshep. Gabriel is dark skinned and a spacer (my mother was in the military, so that resonates with me personally)/sole survivor. I think the SS background really does speak to the personality Shepard has...the drive to live.

Suffice to say, he is my player avatar into the world.

Veronique Shepard however, is cold sonova...she's Earthborn and Ruthless, traits that I have no experience with, on top of not being a woman. Even so, I can still see part of me in her, so I have no problem playing her way through the world. I (like a few people on here have expressed as well) just wish she was more physically imposing to go along with the story.

I didn't really have a problem with femshep not being the vega lookalike contest winner. maybe she's such a bad*** because she looks less intimidating, so her enemies don't see her coming? and just because she isn't bulky doesn't mean she has no muscle tone, it just means she has a more balanced muscle-building workout program, one I think maleshep could benefit from.

[eyezonlyii]

Invisible Man wrote...

eyezonlyii wrote...

I usually play a custom broshep. Gabriel is dark skinned and a spacer (my mother was in the military, so that resonates with me personally)/sole survivor. I think the SS background really does speak to the personality Shepard has...the drive to live.

Suffice to say, he is my player avatar into the world.

Veronique Shepard however, is cold sonova...she's Earthborn and Ruthless, traits that I have no experience with, on top of not being a woman. Even so, I can still see part of me in her, so I have no problem playing her way through the world. I (like a few people on here have expressed as well) just wish she was more physically imposing to go along with the story.

I didn't really have a problem with femshep not being the vega lookalike contest winner. maybe she's such a bad*** because she looks less intimidating, so her enemies don't see her coming? and just because she isn't bulky doesn't mean she has no muscle tone, it just means she has a more balanced muscle-building workout program, one I think maleshep could benefit from.

Oh I don't think she needs to be bodybuilder size or anything, just more like Wonder Woman as opposed to Catwoman

[DeinonSlayer]

I'd say MaleShep was excessively bulky, and FemShep ought to have been more bulked up. Her Olive Oyl arms are kind of funny.

Modifié par DeinonSlayer, 21 février 2014 - 02:27 .

[eyezonlyii]

DeinonSlayer wrote...

I'd say MaleShep was excessively bulky, and FemShep ought to have been more bulked up. Her Olive Oyl arms are kind of funny.

Really? Maleshep was the least bulky of the human squadmates. 

Vega>Zaeed=Kaidan>Jacob>Maleshep

Whereas

Ashley=Femshep>Jack>Miranda

[congokong]

cap and gown wrote...

congokong wrote...

Some people do things like a ruthless paragon seeking redemption. You have to headcanon it all though because your reputation is someone who gets the job done. "Get the job done" is why ruthless says so much about your Shepard. It screams practicality and defined many of my Shepard's decisions. Even she had limits though. She wouldn't cross her moral line by overloading the reactor in the Omega DLC just so Aria T'Loak didn't have to fight mechs for one more minute. It made her compromise the mission; something she rarely did.

No kiss for you.

Nope. I still got the kiss. My Shepard is an asari magnet. Shiala, Liara, Shiara, Morinth, and Aria all are into her.

[von uber]

The Aria discussion is moot anyway, as she clearly prefers femshep.

[Daemul]

True, the Renegade kiss is completely different with Femshep than with Sheploo. Aria is clearly into the ladies. Ah well, can't have them all.

[congokong]

Daemul wrote...

True, the Renegade kiss is completely different with Femshep than with Sheploo. Aria is clearly into the ladies. Ah well, can't have them all.

It makes sense in a scientific way (slippery slope here). Asari evolved to be attracted to asari who clearly look female. So why would they be attracted to male humans, or worse, other species that look nothing like them like hanar or krogan? Human females however look much like asari so that attraction is more feasible.

[ImaginaryMatter]

DeinonSlayer wrote...

I'd say MaleShep was excessively bulky, and FemShep ought to have been more bulked up. Her Olive Oyl arms are kind of funny.

Hopefully next game we get to choose body types, I don't want to play as PearShep.

[von uber]

Well femshep not being bulky could be explained through the cybernetics..

[eyezonlyii]

von uber wrote...

Well femshep not being bulky could be explained through the cybernetics..

she didn't originally hav cybernetics though, so why wasn't she more "bulky" in ME1?

[Robbiesan]

both, to change it up

[von uber]

eyezonlyii wrote...

von uber wrote...

Well femshep not being bulky could be explained through the cybernetics..

she didn't originally hav cybernetics though, so why wasn't she more "bulky" in ME1?

Because she is pretty much always in powered armour? And doesn't really go around punching much stuff?