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[Steelcan]

von uber wrote...

Steelcan wrote...

von uber wrote...

Femshep and only Femshep. Shepard is a woman, for me it works better and makes the game stand out more and be more unique.

Every other single game pretty much has a male protagonist. Playing as a female improves the game immensely.

I can't understand why people wouldn't want to play as a woman.

Because

A.  Its not very rare for a game to have a woman protagonist these days

B.  Hale did a terrible job as Shepard's VA

1) yes,  it is. Main playable characters are overwhelmingly male
2) no, she didn't - and that's a pretty much unanimous critical view

You want me to name them?

Tomb raider, Skyrim, Assassin's Creed: Liberation, TOR, Halo: Reach, The Walking Dead, the past three Final Fantasy games, Beyond: Two Souls, Remember Me, Saints Row IV, Borderlands, Borderlands 2, Saints Row 3, and Dead Island are all off the top of my head.

Female protagonists aren't nearly as rare as they used to be

Congrats, some critics liked her half mumbles half drunk half screamed lines, it defies my understanding, she is so much than better in just about everything else she has done.  Seriously, Meer blows her away in ME

Modifié par Steelcan, 19 février 2014 - 09:56 .

[RZIBARA]

Ellie in the last of us as well steel

[Mcfly616]

Yes, he blows her away with his wooden acting. The deadpan monotone delivery is spot-on.

[RZIBARA]

Mcfly616 wrote...

Yes, he blows her away with his wooden acting. The deadpan monotone delivery is spot-on.

he does a much better job than her in ME2 and ME3. Watch the speeches in comparison and see for yourself

ME3 in particular, the final speech, Meer does an amazing job, while Hale sounds like shes half asleep

[Steelcan]

Mcfly616 wrote...

Yes, he blows her away with his wooden acting. The deadpan monotone delivery is spot-on.

I never got this, Meer doesn't act like every single line is deciding the fate of the world and then screw all of them up.

Plus deadpan >

[Steelcan]

RZIBARA wrote...

Mcfly616 wrote...

Yes, he blows her away with his wooden acting. The deadpan monotone delivery is spot-on.

he does a much better job than her in ME2 and ME3. Watch the speeches in comparison and see for yourself

ME3 in particular, the final speech, Meer does an amazing job, while Hale sounds like shes half asleep

She always sounds like she's half asleep, or everyone is half asleep and so she's whispering

[RZIBARA]

StreetMagic wrote...

RZIBARA wrote...

Mcfly616 wrote...

Yes, he blows her away with his wooden acting. The deadpan monotone delivery is spot-on.

he does a much better job than her in ME2 and ME3. Watch the speeches in comparison and see for yourself

ME3 in particular, the final speech, Meer does an amazing job, while Hale sounds like shes half asleep

That final speech sucks no matter what.

i disagree, may not be on level with ME2's speech but it was still good (paragon one at least, the renegade one is retarded lol)

[Sebby]

von uber wrote...

Femshep and only Femshep. Shepard is a woman, for me it works better and makes the game stand out more and be more unique.

Every other single game pretty much has a male protagonist. Playing as a female improves the game immensely.

I can't understand why people wouldn't want to play as a woman.

Lol wut? There isn't a lick of difference between femshep and maleshep beyond cosmetics and some crappy romances.

Your LARP =/= What's in the game.

[RZIBARA]

Steelcan wrote...

RZIBARA wrote...

Mcfly616 wrote...

Yes, he blows her away with his wooden acting. The deadpan monotone delivery is spot-on.

he does a much better job than her in ME2 and ME3. Watch the speeches in comparison and see for yourself

ME3 in particular, the final speech, Meer does an amazing job, while Hale sounds like shes half asleep

She always sounds like she's half asleep, or everyone is half asleep and so she's whispering

sounds about right

[Tyrannosaurus Rex]

ME3 "Priority : Earth" and ending speeches were all godawful.

Except the control ending speeches, they were good.

Modifié par Lizardviking, 19 février 2014 - 10:14 .

[RZIBARA]

Seboist wrote...

von uber wrote...

Femshep and only Femshep. Shepard is a woman, for me it works better and makes the game stand out more and be more unique.

Every other single game pretty much has a male protagonist. Playing as a female improves the game immensely.

I can't understand why people wouldn't want to play as a woman.

Lol wut? There isn't a lick of difference between femshep and maleshep beyond cosmetics and some crappy romances.

Your LARP =/= What's in the game.

let him enjoy his same sex romance with Liara. 

[Cainhurst Crow]

This is thread simulator quality stuff.

[von uber]

Seboist wrote...

Lol wut? There isn't a lick of difference between femshep and maleshep beyond cosmetics and some crappy romances.

Your LARP =/= What's in the game.

Maybe I am getting old (34 is old?) but I have no idea what LARP is.
The difference is the fact that you are a female character in a powerful role as opposed to a male. It's all the difference i the world.

Steelcan wrote...

You want me to name them?

Tomb
raider, Skyrim, Assassin's Creed: Liberation, TOR, Halo: Reach, The
Walking Dead, the past three Final Fantasy games, Beyond: Two Souls,
Remember Me, Saints Row IV, Borderlands, Borderlands 2, Saints Row 3,
and Dead Island are all off the top of my head.

Tomb
raider - correct, and probably the most famous
Skyrim - not a female character as it is a silent protaganist and is non geneder specific. You could be a tree for the difference it makes.
Assassin's Creed: Liberation - released on a handheld and certaninly not part of the main stream Assasin creed's releases, but i'll give you this one
TOR - can't really class a MMO as a strong lead character can you!
Halo: Reach - agreed
The
Walking Dead - Lee Everett  has turned into a woman suddenly??
the past three Final Fantasy games - 13 yes, 11 is another MMPORG, 10 has ultple choices and so can't count as the main character
Beyond: Two Souls - give you that

Remember Me - yep
Saints Row 3/IV - yeas, split in a similar way to ME. I enjoyed SR3 as a latino gangsteress, very amusing
Borderlands, Borderlands 2 - party choice, hardly a lead character


As a comparison, shall I list every other single bloody game that has  amale lead? I dread to think what the ratio is.

Anyway, I think it makes the game better as a female. I think people miss out by not playing as one. But then again, I don't think Liara needs her face smashed in with a rifle butt and/or the entire asari race to be wiped out, so there you go, i am obviously odd.

[von uber]

RZIBARA wrote...

let him enjoy his same sex romance with Liara. 

What's wrong with a same sex relationship?

[Mcfly616]

RZIBARA wrote...

Mcfly616 wrote...

Yes, he blows her away with his wooden acting. The deadpan monotone delivery is spot-on.

he does a much better job than her in ME2 and ME3. Watch the speeches in comparison and see for yourself

ME3 in particular, the final speech, Meer does an amazing job, while Hale sounds like shes half asleep

I dont need to watch the speeches. I've played through the trilogy over 20 times. Mostly as Male Shep. I prefer Male Shep. But saying Meer blows anybody away in terms of voice acting is a crock. It's not really acting if you're just reading lines with zero emotion whatsoever.

I've said on multiple occasions that Meer stepped his game up in ME3. It actually seems like they're on equal ground for once. Hell, I'd give him the edge in the last game. But every speech before that I give the advantage to Hale. Especially the Suicide Mission speeches. She crushes him. They don't even compare.

[Sebby]

von uber wrote...

Seboist wrote...

Lol wut? There isn't a lick of difference between femshep and maleshep beyond cosmetics and some crappy romances.

Your LARP =/= What's in the game.

Maybe I am getting old (34 is old?) but I have no idea what LARP is.
The difference is the fact that you are a female character in a powerful role as opposed to a male. It's all the difference i the world.

That "difference" only exists in your head(what LARP is). They're the same exact character.

[Steelcan]

von uber wrote...

Seboist wrote...

Lol wut? There isn't a lick of difference between femshep and maleshep beyond cosmetics and some crappy romances.

Your LARP =/= What's in the game.

Maybe I am getting old (34 is old?) but I have no idea what LARP is.
The difference is the fact that you are a female character in a powerful role as opposed to a male. It's all the difference i the world.

Steelcan wrote...

You want me to name them?

Tomb
raider, Skyrim, Assassin's Creed: Liberation, TOR, Halo: Reach, The
Walking Dead, the past three Final Fantasy games, Beyond: Two Souls,
Remember Me, Saints Row IV, Borderlands, Borderlands 2, Saints Row 3,
and Dead Island are all off the top of my head.

Tomb
raider - correct, and probably the most famous
Skyrim - not a female character as it is a silent protaganist and is non geneder specific. You could be a tree for the difference it makes.
Assassin's Creed: Liberation - released on a handheld and certaninly not part of the main stream Assasin creed's releases, but i'll give you this one
TOR - can't really class a MMO as a strong lead character can you!
Halo: Reach - agreed
The
Walking Dead - Lee Everett  has turned into a woman suddenly??
the past three Final Fantasy games - 13 yes, 11 is another MMPORG, 10 has ultple choices and so can't count as the main character
Beyond: Two Souls - give you that

Remember Me - yep
Saints Row 3/IV - yeas, split in a similar way to ME. I enjoyed SR3 as a latino gangsteress, very amusing
Borderlands, Borderlands 2 - party choice, hardly a lead character


As a comparison, shall I list every other single bloody game that has  amale lead? I dread to think what the ratio is.

Anyway, I think it makes the game better as a female. I think people miss out by not playing as one. But then again, I don't think Liara needs her face smashed in with a rifle butt and/or the entire asari race to be wiped out, so there you go, i am obviously odd.

Liberation came out on consoles recently, The Walking Dead season two you play Clementine, 13, 13-II, 13-III, TOR has better storylines than ME2 does, Skyrim still counts, as do both Borderlands, I can also throw in games where the main character is a woman if not necessarily the Player characters but that would just be redundant.

[themikefest]

Jukaga wrote...

dan109 wrote...

I completely agree with the OP. I can never ever get into a game if the main character is a woman. Just too much of a disconnect. There have been a few games over the years that looked kind of cool that I passed over (like the new Tomb Raider game for instance) because I knew that I would never be able to get into the character and so wouldn't enjoy the game.

That's a shame, the Tomb Raider reboot was a great game and the new Lara is quite simply the loveliest female game character ever, imo.

I agree. I enjoyed the game. Looking forward to seeing a sequel if they do one.

[Steelcan]

Mcfly616 wrote...

RZIBARA wrote...

Mcfly616 wrote...

Yes, he blows her away with his wooden acting. The deadpan monotone delivery is spot-on.

he does a much better job than her in ME2 and ME3. Watch the speeches in comparison and see for yourself

ME3 in particular, the final speech, Meer does an amazing job, while Hale sounds like shes half asleep

I dont need to watch the speeches. I've played through the trilogy over 20 times. Mostly as Male Shep. I prefer Male Shep. But saying Meer blows anybody away in terms of voice acting is a crock. It's not really acting if you're just reading lines with zero emotion whatsoever.

I've said on multiple occasions that Meer stepped his game up in ME3. It actually seems like they're on equal ground for once. Hell, I'd give him the edge in the last game. But every speech before that I give the advantage to Hale. Especially the Suicide Mission speeches. She crushes him. They don't even compare.

I seriously had to skip mjost of Hale's lines when I played FemShep

[Sebby]

Steelcan wrote...

von uber wrote...

Steelcan wrote...

von uber wrote...

Femshep and only Femshep. Shepard is a woman, for me it works better and makes the game stand out more and be more unique.

Every other single game pretty much has a male protagonist. Playing as a female improves the game immensely.

I can't understand why people wouldn't want to play as a woman.

Because

A.  Its not very rare for a game to have a woman protagonist these days

B.  Hale did a terrible job as Shepard's VA

1) yes,  it is. Main playable characters are overwhelmingly male
2) no, she didn't - and that's a pretty much unanimous critical view

You want me to name them?

Tomb raider, Skyrim, Assassin's Creed: Liberation, TOR, Halo: Reach, The Walking Dead, the past three Final Fantasy games, Beyond: Two Souls, Remember Me, Saints Row IV, Borderlands, Borderlands 2, Saints Row 3, and Dead Island are all off the top of my head.

Female protagonists aren't nearly as rare as they used to be

Congrats, some critics liked her half mumbles half drunk half screamed lines, it defies my understanding, she is so much than better in just about everything else she has done.  Seriously, Meer blows her away in ME

You left out the most obvious title

[Bob from Accounting]

Is a resistance here to female protagonists in video games or other fiction?

I have difficulty grasping how anyone could pass over a work over such a triviality.

[Steelcan]

Bob from Accounting wrote...

Is a resistance here to female protagonists in video games or other fiction?

I have difficulty grasping how anyone could pass over a work over such a triviality.

I don't have a problem with female protagonists, I just don't like FemShep