I think these changes are largely very positive and exciting. Can't wait to see how they work in-game.David Gaider wrote...
Some people will find these things very different. Some will hardly notice, as these are largely structural and procedural differences for writing.
Modifié par keightdee, 20 février 2014 - 07:14 .
David Gaider wrote...
- Addition of a "reaction wheel" (on top of the "tone wheel", which is for flavor responses, and the "action wheel", which is for places where the player is decided to do something), which allows for emotional responses to important events. The player always has the Stoic option (essentially the neutral response), or will have options such as Sad, Confused, Enraged, Surprised, etc.
[*]Marry me.David Gaider wrote...
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This is very satisfying news, particularly the part about the new tones.David Gaider wrote...
Just to be clear as to what Mike was and was not referring to:
What is the same about Inquisition's writing style, compared to DA2:
- Dialogue options are picked from paraphrases, off a wheel interface.
What is new:
- The player character is voiced, and dialogue is written with that in mind.
- No dominant tone. Meaning your most-selected tone does not carry through to influence other lines outside of the conversation in which you selected it. In DA2, dominant tone changed the actual line the PC spoke when action choices were made as well as those spoken inside of cutscenes ("auto-dialogue", as people like to refer to it here). In Inquisition, those are all relayed in neutral tone.
- A question is often asked of how much "auto-dialogue" will exist in comparison to, say, Mass Effect 3. The answer is that the amount will be less than DA2 (and it is always neutral-toned, as mentioned above). This is generally just used in situations where the PC is saying something innocuous ("Go on" or "What is that?" ...things that don't really call for a wheel).
- Addition of a "reaction wheel" (on top of the "tone wheel", which is for flavor responses, and the "action wheel", which is for places where the player is decided to do something), which allows for emotional responses to important events. The player always has the Stoic option (essentially the neutral response), or will have options such as Sad, Confused, Enraged, Surprised, etc.
- Dialogue options on an action wheel now sometimes display a pop-up if the option is hovered over long enough, elaborating on what that action is intended to do. This only applies to actions where elaboration is felt necessary. It does not display the actual line which will be spoken by the PC.
- The three major tones are now Noble/Clever/Direct (as opposed to Diplomatic/Humorous/Aggressive). These are primarily internal designations which affect how we write those tones, the idea being to reign in the difference a bit between the three. There are no longer alternate tone variants (which in DA2 were Helpful/Charming/Direct), as I don't think we communicated very well what those meant anyhow.
Some people will find these things very different. Some will hardly notice, as these are largely structural and procedural differences for writing. Ultimately, as Mike says, the writing style is the same--but your mileage may vary. Nothing else is really referred to by "writing style" than how the dialogue itself is functionally written.
- Similar to how the Investigate option off any wheel "breaks out" into a sub-wheel for questions (if there is more than one question), there can be a Special option off any wheel which breaks out in the same manner. This is where we put conditional things, such as dialogue options that depend on having a particular party member, being a particular race/class, romance options, having made certain choices previously, etc...and thus allows us to add as many of these to a wheel as we like without breaking the interface structure. Some of these now "grey out" if you don't have the requirement, meaning you can see an option you might have had, but currently cannot take.
I'm going to enjoy this.TheKomandorShepard wrote...
LDS Darth Revan wrote...
1.Bartrand would find another partner.
2. Anders also has Mage Underground to hide him.
3. Prison was nearly about to break, as in within DA2's time frame.
4. She does the entire mission alone if you don't do the DLC.
5. A duke who was about to start genocide, so Orlais keeps incident under wraps.
My gosh...
1.Hawke delivered maps , money and was only able to go through darkspawn when bartrand expedition wasn't able go further... even if he somehow got money and he couldn't , thats why he desperatly required hawke he still wouldn't have map or forces to get trough legions of darkspawn...
2.Not rly mage underground was destroyed even anders said that...
3.Not rly devs never stated that so you are making that up...
5.What guy wanted weapon from qunari i guess he would kill agents but for thedas that would be salvation...
and not in just one of these personalities...
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Modifié par simfamSP, 20 février 2014 - 08:41 .
David Gaider wrote...
Just to be clear as to what Mike was and was not referring to:
What is the same about Inquisition's writing style, compared to DA2:
- Dialogue options are picked from paraphrases, off a wheel interface.
What is new:
- The player character is voiced, and dialogue is written with that in mind.
- No dominant tone. Meaning your most-selected tone does not carry through to influence other lines outside of the conversation in which you selected it. In DA2, dominant tone changed the actual line the PC spoke when action choices were made as well as those spoken inside of cutscenes ("auto-dialogue", as people like to refer to it here). In Inquisition, those are all relayed in neutral tone.
- A question is often asked of how much "auto-dialogue" will exist in comparison to, say, Mass Effect 3. The answer is that the amount will be less than DA2 (and it is always neutral-toned, as mentioned above). This is generally just used in situations where the PC is saying something innocuous ("Go on" or "What is that?" ...things that don't really call for a wheel).
- Addition of a "reaction wheel" (on top of the "tone wheel", which is for flavor responses, and the "action wheel", which is for places where the player is decided to do something), which allows for emotional responses to important events. The player always has the Stoic option (essentially the neutral response), or will have options such as Sad, Confused, Enraged, Surprised, etc.
- Dialogue options on an action wheel now sometimes display a pop-up if the option is hovered over long enough, elaborating on what that action is intended to do. This only applies to actions where elaboration is felt necessary. It does not display the actual line which will be spoken by the PC.
- The three major tones are now Noble/Clever/Direct (as opposed to Diplomatic/Humorous/Aggressive). These are primarily internal designations which affect how we write those tones, the idea being to reign in the difference a bit between the three. There are no longer alternate tone variants (which in DA2 were Helpful/Charming/Direct), as I don't think we communicated very well what those meant anyhow.
Some people will find these things very different. Some will hardly notice, as these are largely structural and procedural differences for writing. Ultimately, as Mike says, the writing style is the same--but your mileage may vary. Nothing else is really referred to by "writing style" than how the dialogue itself is functionally written.
- Similar to how the Investigate option off any wheel "breaks out" into a sub-wheel for questions (if there is more than one question), there can be a Special option off any wheel which breaks out in the same manner. This is where we put conditional things, such as dialogue options that depend on having a particular party member, being a particular race/class, romance options, having made certain choices previously, etc...and thus allows us to add as many of these to a wheel as we like without breaking the interface structure. Some of these now "grey out" if you don't have the requirement, meaning you can see an option you might have had, but currently cannot take.
David Gaider wrote...
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ElitePinecone wrote...
David Gaider wrote...
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This is very helpful for clarifying the changes, thank you.
The special option isn't related to those emotions. Those are contained in the reaction wheel. The Special option can appear in other wheels, based on what Gaider said.LoyalFan wrote...
Special option, which features, enraged, sad, surprised etc. I think it wont be in all wheels though
simfamSP wrote...
I read all of that, and it sounds good to me. You guys really read all of our crap, didn't you? xD
Edit: Here's hoping the direct dialogue will be influenced by Stannis dialogue. In that case, let's put down every single LI that comes on to us.
Cas: Might we dine tonight, PC?
PC: I am doing my duty, now perform yours in a leal and puissant manner.
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