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Thank You For Bringing Back Race Selection, BioWare


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Anvos wrote...

I'm not sure they should be thanked for returning a liked feature that they never should have taken away in the first place.


Thing is, how well would race selection fit into the story of DA2 anyway? From the Warden's perspective, Lothering had only a handful of elves (only a single family as far as I can see) and nary a dwarf besides Sandal and Bodahn. Now, I guess this can be a case of gameplay segregation since obviously the population of the town will not be accurately reflected in the number of NPC's we see, but it could just as well be argued that, save for the one elven family and those two dwarves, that the entire town of Lothering was entirely comprised of humans, so any refugees fleeing that place would most likely be human, and POSSIBLY elves. Despite the game's story being smaller in scope, race selection would actually have quite a bit of branching of its storyline, more so than DA:O would, because the origin does not affect the main story. It does not change the conditions beyond the origin itself and the boon the king or queen grant you in the end.

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KaiserShep wrote...

Anvos wrote...

I'm not sure they should be thanked for returning a liked feature that they never should have taken away in the first place.


Thing is, how well would race selection fit into the story of DA2 anyway? From the Warden's perspective, Lothering had only a handful of elves (only a single family as far as I can see) and nary a dwarf besides Sandal and Bodahn. Now, I guess this can be a case of gameplay segregation since obviously the population of the town will not be accurately reflected in the number of NPC's we see, but it could just as well be argued that, save for the one elven family and those two dwarves, that the entire town of Lothering was entirely comprised of humans, so any refugees fleeing that place may also be human. Despite the game's story being smaller in scope, race selection would actually have quite a bit of branching of its storyline, more so than DA:O would, because the origin does not affect the main story. It does not change the conditions beyond the origin itself and the boon the king or queen grant you in the end.

Let's ignore that Lothering is part of the DA2 player character's backstory. It's superfluous. DA2 didn't need to be connected to DAO.

There were dwarves and elves all over Kirkwall and the surrounding areas. A non-human PC would have worked just fine.

Instead of the mage-templar conflict, an elven or dwarven rebellion in Kirkwall could have been a great alternative storyline.

Or hell, the qunari invasion could have been the main plot of the entire game. Imagine the qunari completely taking over Kirkwall and a dwarf or elf PC raising an army to take it back. That would have been awesome.

Modifié par MevenSelas, 20 février 2014 - 08:38 .


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If race/background selection requires changing the current story to make more sense, then that kind of makes my point. Dragon Age: Origins clearly granted plenty of freedom, because the plot goes well beyond the importance of the PC's race and origin, and the same is no doubt true of Inquisition, though I share Lotion's concern regarding how well the qunari background will fit into this game. I can only judge its merits based on the story as-is.

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I'm quite pleased with having race selection again, more so with Qunari being an option now.

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Lotion Soronnar wrote...

Frankly, I think the inclusion of qunari is a big mistake.

I doubt race will play anything but a minimal role, and a qunari inquisitor is NOT something the people of Thedas would accept.

When the alternative is certain death, it's amazing what people will agree to.

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^That is a good point actually. The veil is torn and the world's gone to sh*t, and it's been a good number of years since the Kirkwall incident, and people obviously don't forbid qunari to at least travel freely among them entirely.

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Now if only Bioware wouldn't flood our consoles with broken quests ,and useless dlc items.

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LDS Darth Revan wrote...

Lotion Soronnar wrote...

Frankly, I think the inclusion of qunari is a big mistake.

I doubt race will play anything but a minimal role, and a qunari inquisitor is NOT something the people of Thedas would accept.

When the alternative is certain death, it's amazing what people will agree to.


And when there's 1 of you and a million of them, the certain death will be yours.

You are talking about a qunari imposing his will by force in the heart of Thedas. There's no way in hell anyone would stand for it.
Hell, I wouldn't be suprised if mages and templars form an alliance just to kill you - both hate the qunari.

That would be a novel way to end the game if you play a qunari. Use too much force and you unite the warring factions and produce a good ending by being the bad guy people unite to kill.:lol:

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KaiserShep wrote...

^That is a good point actually. The veil is torn and the world's gone to sh*t, and it's been a good number of years since the Kirkwall incident, and people obviously don't forbid qunari to at least travel freely among them entirely.


There is a difference between "travelign freely" and holding lands, having an army, being judge, jury and executioner - because that's what an inquisitor is.

No Thedosian would accept giving a qunari such position and power over them.
Hell, they don't allow mages to hold lands or titles, but giving qunari power is ok?

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Lotion Soronnar wrote...

KaiserShep wrote...

^That is a good point actually. The veil is torn and the world's gone to sh*t, and it's been a good number of years since the Kirkwall incident, and people obviously don't forbid qunari to at least travel freely among them entirely.


There is a difference between "travelign freely" and holding lands, having an army, being judge, jury and executioner - because that's what an inquisitor is.

No Thedosian would accept giving a qunari such position and power over them.
Hell, they don't allow mages to hold lands or titles, but giving qunari power is ok?

I wonder how they'll react to my Qunari Mage then?:devil:

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Lotion Soronnar wrote...

KaiserShep wrote...

^That is a good point actually. The veil is torn and the world's gone to sh*t, and it's been a good number of years since the Kirkwall incident, and people obviously don't forbid qunari to at least travel freely among them entirely.


There is a difference between "travelign freely" and holding lands, having an army, being judge, jury and executioner - because that's what an inquisitor is.

No Thedosian would accept giving a qunari such position and power over them.
Hell, they don't allow mages to hold lands or titles, but giving qunari power is ok?


It's just a thought, but like I said, I share your concern.

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I never thought of playing a dwarf until I read about the low percentage of people playing it and wonder why. I am now a dwarf lover, thank you Bioware. Having now done the Dwarven noble no compromise warden, who had a son in Orzammar and romanced Morrigan, I'm interested to see how much it would be acknowledged in DA: I if the inquisitor was also a Dwarf. There was no DR in my game, but am still intrigued about any reactions that could happen for those that did the DR in theirs. Would Morrigan even acknowledge that her OGB had a half-brother to a Dwarven Inquistitor? It's a brilliant story no matter what race you play.

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carlibahamut wrote...

I know. I am soooo happy about this as well. It was a major selling point for me.
Is that true, that the majority of people played humans in DA:O? That seems so weird... I'd assumed most people wouldn't want to play humans! I almost never play humans in video games unless I have no other choice, like in DA2.
Yes, thank you indeed, for bringing back this choice.


I have no problems playing humans. I have the imagination to play as one. I also enjoy playing the other races.

Why must you bash the people who play humans? People play what they feel comfortable playing with its that simple! How difficult is that to understand?:huh:

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Thank you for the race selection BioWare and EA.

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Yes, thank you Bioware. My hopes for Inquisition rocketed when the announcement of race selection was made.

Still wondering how the different backgrounds will play, but that makes things even more interesting while we wait for the game.

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Thank you bringing race selection back Bioware, now if you would be so kind, invent time travel so we can all have the game now! T___T

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After Dragon Fail 2 I told myself to be skeptical about any future DA games. But now with the races and the tactical camera I am looking forward to it. I think this time they will do a really badass game. B)

Modifié par michalooo, 20 février 2014 - 11:02 .


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I've been ignoring info about DAI since I read somewhere that the PC would be restricted to human. I had the impression that it was gonna be made more Mass Effect-like.

I'm still not excited, but being able to play races other than human (elf in particular) made me at least consider getting DAI.

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I definitely agree with the OP's sentiments.

I was always keen on DAI but when it was announced that multiple races would return, it made the game pretty much a lock for me. I am very excited to see how a Qunari playthrough will turn out.

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I was one of those people that were fine with the protagonist being human as I'm not a fan of playing as an Elf or Dwarf, but more options are always good, and I'm very happy that Qunari are playable. It means I won't instantly and instinctively be hitting the "Human" button on the character creation screen.

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Yes, thanks Bioware, I'm sure I'll enjoy the multiple race option more than is good for me, especially Qunari.  :)

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Thanks Bioware, I'm really looking forward to multiple races as well and with the qunari option I'm curious to see how that would play out... now I have to decide between elf and qunari first... decisions, decisions.

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Has it been stated before whether or not we would be able to play origin stories baced on race selection?

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Maddok900 wrote...

Has it been stated before whether or not we would be able to play origin stories baced on race selection?

Yes, they stated that there won't be Origins playable prologues in DAI. 

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I would also like to say thank you Bioware for brining race back =)