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 As we all know all species but asari, human and quarian have female characters, where most quarian characters are female.


guess 1:
Turian: turian favors strength so female probably dont have a place in their society and dont travel around the galaxy.
Same goes Krogan.
Salarian: eh... idk... because... their head shapes like a marker? 
Volus: you probably see female volus every day. You just dont know.
Drell: while the idea of a reptilian dude sounds pretty cool, a reptilian gal is just... creepy.
Batarian: they are racist and supremacist anyways. Why cant they also believe in gender inequailty?Yahg: *cough  Get over it.




guess 2:
The male quarians' suits just look too nice. Bioware wont want us players to be jealous about those now do theyB)


guess 3: 
The game designers havent decided if the aliens who doesnt resemble human much should have females that look attractive to us human yet.:wub:

Modifié par U H E, 20 février 2014 - 05:02 .


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You're way off on Turians and Salarians
Every Turian joins the military including Nyreen,
and the Salarians breed 1 female for every 10 males, I believe since they lay a lot of eggs they have rules on breeding, my guess would be to prevent over population.

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The reason you do not see many/any females of most aliens is simply developer and processing logistics. Building a female variant properly requires an investment of artistic resources and time to ensure it's not half arsed, something that wasn't really calculated into most of Mass Effect trilogy's dev cycle. More importantly, it's expected a female variant would both look a little bit different and sound different too. This runs into issues on consoles where processing headroom is very limited, especially for RAM, and the need to load a multitude of character/gender variations into the RAM in a single scene is difficult and process expensive.

Think of it like this: a single scene/are on the Citadel, as it is, will have humans, asari, turian, salarian, volus, elcor, and maybe quarian. Every single one of these characters has a distinct model and texture map that must be loaded into the memory. Humans have double that of other species due to gender variations; we see female and male. In order for the other species to have their gender variation walking around at the same time, you're effectively doubling your RAM/processing requirements in a single scene. Two model/texture maps for every species need to be loaded into the RAM, and the data they take up is usually used elsewhere.

It's hardware economics, that's it, and an area where the logistics of making a video game infringe on a franchise that is so lore heavy. The only reason you do not see female turians walking around the citadel, even though the lore makes no argument as to why they wouldn't, is because the development time spent on fully creating a female Turian identity, model, and texture hadn't yet happened, and memory limitations required them use just one "stock model" with slight variations in every scene.

This should be a non-issue for Mass Effect 4 where RAM limitations for something like this shouldn't interfere.

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Yeah.. There may be lore explanations for some examples (patriarchies, Krogan segregation, etc), but I think it was taking the easy way out in regards to less modeling and more generalized designs.

There was more variation as the series went on, so hopefully it's something that's a little more balanced out in the next game.

Modifié par gosimmons, 20 février 2014 - 06:55 .


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EatChildren wrote...

The reason you do not see many/any females of most aliens is simply developer and processing logistics.
It's hardware economics, that's it, and an area where the logistics of making a video game infringe on a franchise that is so lore heavy.


Pretty much this.

You don't see many female versions of the various alien species in the game for the same reason that you didn't see many children or dogs or cats in the game. It was linked entirely to development resources, rather than lore restrictions. Other than the Krogan and the Salarians there wasn't an in-universe reason for the lack of female aliens. In the books Turian females are as commonly seen as the males, and serve the Hierarchy in the same roles.

One thing I always wondered however is why Bioware just didn't use female voice actors for some of the Volus, Elcor, or Hanar. All three of those races wouldn't necessarily need different character models for females. Bioware could get away with using the same models and just using different voices.

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I've read the books, it appears that the hegemony does not allow female batarians to leave their homeworld (since they're basically isolationnists) or their ships during the invasion.

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Basically because shepard bangs all their women and if they let him see all their women he would bang all of them and they would have no women to bang so they hide their kids and hide their wives.

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U H E wrote...

 As we all know all species but asari, human and quarian have female characters, where most quarian characters are female.


guess 1:
Turian: turian favors strength so female probably dont have a place in their society and dont travel around the galaxy.
Same goes Krogan.
Salarian: eh... idk... because... their head shapes like a marker? 
Volus: you probably see female volus every day. You just dont know.
Drell: while the idea of a reptilian dude sounds pretty cool, a reptilian gal is just... creepy.
Batarian: they are racist and supremacist anyways. Why cant they also believe in gender inequailty?Yahg: *cough  Get over it.




guess 2:
The male quarians' suits just look too nice. Bioware wont want us players to be jealous about those now do theyB)


guess 3: 
The game designers havent decided if the aliens who doesnt resemble human much should have females that look attractive to us human yet.:wub:







Because it would have been too difficult to make models for them all. Lore wise, all turians join the military, male and female. By all rights, we should have seen more female turians, than female humans. Female krogan are protected by their clans, and rarelt leave.  Female Salarians run their homeworld and hold all possitons of power among their people, and rarely leave their homeworld(yet the salarian counsler is male for some reason?!). As for the other races, I assume Bioware didn't think they were important. Hopefully this form of thinking changes in ME4, and we see the females of all the races. And no, they shouldn't just be the male model, with some robes. I want to see them all have their own unique models. Seriously Bioware, there is really no excuse for this in the next game, not to happen.<_<