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Why do you think Hawke and the Warden disappeared?


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 When meeting Alistair he says the Warden should be in Denerim by now, yet by the end of the game, Leliana is searching for the Warden, i.e. he somehow vanished.
Hawke has more of a reason to do so, as he was part of the reason the war started at all.

So, speculation.

With Morrigan confirmed to be back and Flemeth being a demigod that can be in multiple places at the same time, I am fairly sure either of them had something to do with the two heroes.

That, or it's a crappy excuse to not have them in DA3.

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They both went through the Eluvian.

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Maiden Crowe wrote...

They both went through the Eluvian, seriously not that hard to figure out.

Lol and where is your support for such an obvious conclusion 

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They're marooned on the Lost Protagonist Isle, currently tearing eachothers' eyes out for oysters along with the Nerevarine, Hero of Neverwinter...

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Sentinel358 wrote...

Maiden Crowe wrote...

They both went through the Eluvian, seriously not that hard to figure out.

Lol and where is your support for such an obvious conclusion 



The fact that it is the obvious conclusion.

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Leliana banged the Warden, so obviously she's searching for the Warden because of their scheduled banging in Denerim.

C'mon, a bit of common sense, please.
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Pateu wrote...

When meeting Alistair he says the Warden should be in Denerim by now, yet by the end of the game, Leliana is searching for the Warden, i.e. he somehow vanished.
Hawke has more of a reason to do so, as he was part of the reason the war started at all.

So, speculation.

With Morrigan confirmed to be back and Flemeth being a demigod that can be in multiple places at the same time, I am fairly sure either of them had something to do with the two heroes.

That, or it's a crappy excuse to not have them in DA3.

Honestly, I assumed that after my Surana Warden left the world to join Morrigan through the Eluvian, they returned, and my Hero of Ferelden went to Denerim to petition the King and Queen as allies in Morrigan's grand plan for the world. I'm fairly certain they are opposing Flemeth's goal with one of their own.

As for my apostate Champion, he opposed Meredith's Right of Annulment, so I think Merrill and him have sufficient reason to keep hidden from the Seekers and the templars, while being a leader of the mage rebellion (as Anders mentions repeatedly to my illegal mage Hawke, including at the Gallows, where he said my protagonist was the leader their people had waited centuries for).

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Zazzerka wrote...

Leliana banged the Warden, so obviously she's searching for the Warden because of their scheduled banging in Denerim.

C'mon, a bit of common sense, please.

/thread

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A wizard did it.

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Maiden Crowe wrote...

Sentinel358 wrote...

Maiden Crowe wrote...

They both went through the Eluvian, seriously not that hard to figure out.

Lol and where is your support for such an obvious conclusion 



The fact that it is the obvious conclusion.



1.) I think you missed my sarcasm
2.) something being obvious is not a fact, its an opinion
3.) There's no evidence of hawke going into the eluvian and the warden going through is the players choice, if they choose not to, there's no evidence suggesting that they decided to go through after all. 

Something you made up out of imagination is not obvious nor a conclusion, its a guess based off of your own fantasy 

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Milan92 wrote...

Zazzerka wrote...

Leliana banged the Warden, so obviously she's searching for the Warden because of their scheduled banging in Denerim.

C'mon, a bit of common sense, please.

/thread





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I assume they're dead in a ditch somewhere.

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Regardless of gender, and/or sexual orientation, there was banging involved. Because I'm that tolerant.

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Hawke and the Warden met in southern Orlais intending to duel each other to determine who was the greater protagonist. But eventually they realized they had a lot in common and went to an inn for some ale.

Currently, they're embroiled in a discussion over the likelihood of convincing their respective girlfriends to make out.
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This is a pretty easy one for me to justify. The Warden goes through the Eluvian with Morrigan.

Hawke OTOH is most likely on the run from Templars with her lover and her sister -- both apostate mages.

That's just for me, though, no need to get all excited.

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I think they said the Witch Hunt events are not canon. Don't quote me on this.

Also, even if it was, Alistair mentioning the Warden en-route to Denerim proves that the Warden came back from the other side of the mirror ( if he ever left at all ).

I get why Hawke is missing. He stirred massive sh*t. But the Warden is a hero and it doesn't sound like him to vanish.

My money is on them either being captured by Flemeth or hunting for her.

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If their disappearance is connected, the only real known connection, that doesn't depend on player choices, between the two is Flemeth. But that's not really very useful because we really know very little about Flemeth.

Or they could have nothing to do with each other and Leliana was just engaging in baseless speculation. In which case we have no clue at all.

Modifié par Wulfram, 20 février 2014 - 07:16 .


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She can shapeshift into a high dragon, fake her death and teleport across the world.

I'd say she's a greater threat than an arch demon.

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Pateu wrote...

I think they said the Witch Hunt events are not canon. Don't quote me on this.

Also, even if it was, Alistair mentioning the Warden en-route to Denerim proves that the Warden came back from the other side of the mirror ( if he ever left at all ).

I get why Hawke is missing. He stirred massive sh*t. But the Warden is a hero and it doesn't sound like him to vanish.

My money is on them either being captured by Flemeth or hunting for her.

Even If the events of Witch hunt were canon, (which I hope they are, I would really like Morrigan to remember that my warden stabbed her). It still wouldn't explain Warden's disappearnce, If he went to a mystical land with his lover and quite possibly the mother of his child, And if she's back from the said mystical land, wouldn't it make sense for him to be back too. 

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Loghain Mac-Tir wrote...

And if she's back from the said mystical land, wouldn't it make sense for him to be back too.


Not if he died there.

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Pateu wrote...

She can shapeshift into a high dragon, fake her death and teleport across the world.

I'd say she's a greater threat than an arch demon.

She might as well be stronger than an Arch demon.

But she hasn't done anything to prove that she is a threat to anyone , at least not yet
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thats1evildude wrote...

Loghain Mac-Tir wrote...

And if she's back from the said mystical land, wouldn't it make sense for him to be back too.


Not if he died there.

That's a bummer, I suppose there wasn't any food in the 'other world'
and in an act of desperation, Morrigan ate him....:blush:

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Sentinel358 wrote...

Maiden Crowe wrote...

Sentinel358 wrote...

Maiden Crowe wrote...

They both went through the Eluvian, seriously not that hard to figure out.

Lol and where is your support for such an obvious conclusion 



The fact that it is the obvious conclusion.



1.) I think you missed my sarcasm
2.) something being obvious is not a fact, its an opinion
3.) There's no evidence of hawke going into the eluvian and the warden going through is the players choice, if they choose not to, there's no evidence suggesting that they decided to go through after all. 

Something you made up out of imagination is not obvious nor a conclusion, its a guess based off of your own fantasy 



Oh come now Sentinel, just because you are too blind to see the evidence doesn't mean that it doesn't exist. Even counting for player choice we already have 2 confirmed cases where the Warden has passed to the other side and we know Hawke has the means to do so as well.

But one would think that the fact that they aren't in Thedas is evidence enough, I mean where else would they be? The Moon?

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Loghain Mac-Tir wrote...

Pateu wrote...

I think they said the Witch Hunt events are not canon. Don't quote me on this.

Also, even if it was, Alistair mentioning the Warden en-route to Denerim proves that the Warden came back from the other side of the mirror ( if he ever left at all ).

I get why Hawke is missing. He stirred massive sh*t. But the Warden is a hero and it doesn't sound like him to vanish.

My money is on them either being captured by Flemeth or hunting for her.

Even If the events of Witch hunt were canon, (which I hope they are, I would really like Morrigan to remember that my warden stabbed her). It still wouldn't explain Warden's disappearnce, If he went to a mystical land with his lover and quite possibly the mother of his child, And if she's back from the said mystical land, wouldn't it make sense for him to be back too. 




I wouldn't put it past Morrigan to stab him in the heart and drink his blood if it meant saving herself or furthering her goals.

A romance with Morrigan never came off as genuine to me.

Modifié par OnionXI, 20 février 2014 - 07:24 .