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First-timer - Dual Class or Multi-Class? Race?


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CosmicGnosis

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I'm completely new to Baldur's Gate, and I'm thinking about making a Half-Elf Fighter/Mage, but I've read a lot of opinions. Some people think that Half-Elves are pointless except for role-playing, and the great dual class vs. multi-class debate is rather frustrating. Seriously, no one can agree on which is better.

So I suppose the same will happen here, but I want your thoughts anyway.

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Gate70

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Half elf fighter mage is a solid choice in my opinion, and should allow you to get to grips with the game.

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Grond0

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Dual class advantages
- more HPs
- quicker progress to decent fighting ability
- ability to use a fighter kit

Multi-class advantages
- access to spells from the start
- no period of weakness where fighter abilities are unusable
- half-elf has limited resistance to sleep and charm
- better fighting abilities towards the end of BG2

Overall I don't think there's a clear winner. Which is best will depend on your knowledge and how you play the game.

It might also be worth saying that if you haven't played the game before it's not easy to get the best out of a mage - a fighter type is far easier to play.

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Matuse

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There's endless debate because there's no one clear right way.

A dual class is going to be a much better mage. A multiclass is going to be a much better fighter.

What do you value?

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silenceall

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to add to Grondo's list of dual class advantages (and we're all assuming dual from fighter to mage):
- much better mage at the end of the game (Edit: sorry, Matuse already said this)

Other variables that might tilt the balance one way or the other are:
- who/what classes will be in your party?
- are you starting in BG or BGII?

I would suggest that if you haven't played the game before, you are probably better off with a multi-class F/M (or even a straight fighter as Grondo suggested). They are a little more versatile and adaptable throughout the game without the period of extreme weakness while you are waiting to get your first class' abilities back.

Modifié par silenceall, 21 février 2014 - 02:25 .


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CosmicGnosis

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Should I strongly consider playing as an elf instead of a half-elf? Elves have more advantages, but I don't like the lower Constitution.

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polytope

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CosmicGnosis wrote...

Should I strongly consider playing as an elf instead of a half-elf? Elves have more advantages, but I don't like the lower Constitution.

Pros of the elf: The +1 THAC0 with bows and swords and +1 dex (meaning an extra +1 THAC0 with ranged if you have 19 rather than 18) more than make up for the lesser constitution, especially at low levels where you would miss frequently in combat. Unless you have the G3 fixpack mod installed they don't actually get any resistance to charm or sleep, that was was intended by developers though, so don't feel like you're cheating if you use it.

Pros of the half-elf: I don't like elves. At least when my PC is a half-elf I can think of myself as actually half-human.

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Rosstoration

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If you're going for the elf option, and you intend to be a Mage/Fighter, might be worth taking the hit to constitution and specialising in ranged combat (an elf's natural preference anyway). Ranged combat is king in BG1, and still very helpful in BG2.



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I personally like Kensai/Mage,Thief, both are really powerful but like all multi/dual they start out a little weaker but they become real powerhouses later ofc only humans can dual class though also Kensai can't have armor but tbh it sounds a lot worse than it actually is while playing mostly because If you're going to have trouble at any point in the game it's against mages not melee attackers.

 

Anyway have a great time, it's one of those old games you can keep coming back to after 10 years  and still not get bored and i can't say the same for newer games unfortunately.



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Krazy Solo

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If you have not decided, or gotten the response you are seeking I would like to share my thoughts.

 

The debate of what is better going to all revolve around preferences.  So it is better to look at what each brings to the table and decide which you find better.

 

As noted Dual Class are restricted to Human only, Require you to have 15 minimum primary stat of starting class then 17 minimum in primary stat of 2nd class.  Also to note that the first class is dorment until you have reached +1 of the first class in second.  As such requre planing before hand to make sure you will beable to achieve the desire goal.  During the transition between the first and second class you will stuffer all the restrictions of the first class while leveling the 2nd class even though the first is dorment.

 

Multi-Class level both class without no dorment period.  As result all experience gained by the character is divided into each class.  For example a Fighter/Mage character gained 100 exp from killing an enemy, the fighter class would get 50 exp and mage would get 50 exp.  Same class restriction still apply, such as casting spells or sneaking is prohibited while wearing certain armor.

 

With that information one could come to conclusion if you want a spell caster with hp go with Dual Class, but if you want a fighter who can enhance his fighting abilities then a multiclass is better option.  In the end it is all about which role you are looking for how you intend to play.  I do hope I help make your choice easier.

 

As regards to the Race pick the one you like the best ignore the power gamer influence.



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Grimwald the Wise

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Just to complicate matters: there are mods around that allow humans to multi-class and elves to dual-class, etc.

However, I would not recommend mods until you have played the game a few times.