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[NuclearTech76]

Arc Pistol is much better.

[Terminator Force]

A Commando and Valkyrie working together can be a sight to behold, too. Even better is keeping the Justicar in the mix with those two. A stasis bubble inside a warp bubble along with a Valkyrie and her AF is borderline cheating.

 

No it wouldn't be better. They both have Warp. Thus less detonations because of it.

[NuclearTech76]

Reave is the best power in the game and she doesn't have that. And if only she had a nade based power like IDK cluster grenades she would be better. I'm kind of jealous of the stasis bubble though. If my drell had that I would just stasis enemies and run around the mofos in circles 

[Salarian Master Race]

I like the 30% free CD on Stasis evolution, it doesn't sound like much but it's pretty nice.  Say you Statis a Phantom and you get a free CD.  Detonate it with Throw, which has such a fast CD you get a free Warp afterwards anyway.  Then while they are getting back up and you are shooting, if you're light enough you can do another Throw for free for another detonation.

 

So for the instant CD proc, you got TWO free Biotic Explosions on the target, the second one being even more powerful than the first because it was primed with Warp, and you got free shooting too after the Warp.

 

If you're using Disruptor or Incendiary Ammo, you might be able to Throw twice at the end and net THREE explosions, but I dunno if it would be fast enough to be guaranteed, or if the target would survive all of that, or if detonating Tech Combos upsets you.

[Alfonsedode]

I like the Talon on her not only for the Shield damage bonus, but because it fits well into the Warp/Throw rotation:

 

Warp > Shoot, Shoot, Shoot > Shoot > Throw> Shoot, Shoot, Shoot > Shoot Repeat

 

You don't even need to worry about reload cancelling because U can hide all reload

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[JGDD]

No it wouldn't be better. They both have Warp. Thus less detonations because of it.

Trapped enemies inside a stasis bubble inside a warp bubble with a Valkyrie AF nearby while all can detonate in some way is better. You just don't know it yet.

[Salarian Master Race]

Trapped enemies inside a stasis bubble inside a warp bubble with a Valkyrie AF nearby while all can detonate in some way is better. You just don't know it yet.

 

Don't forget the Dark Sphere static AoE

[JGDD]

Don't forget the Dark Sphere static AoE

Actually was just referring to those three Asari. But yeah, throw in a DS or even Singularity and it's hilarious at how crazy the BEs get if you can set it up right.

[Balbock]

No it wouldn't be better. They both have Warp. Thus less detonations because of it.

 

Not sure which duo combination is better but the AA + Valkyrie team needs more coordination due to dobble Warp. The AJ + AA team and the AJ + Valkyrie team is easier in that regard.

However if you have a Commando, a Justicar and a Valkyrie as a three Asari team, the BEs get detonated that rapidly that it near impossible to "waste" a Warp on an already warpprimed enemy. And, as JGDD already said, this three Asari team is certainly better than any two Asari team possible.

[TheTechnoTurian]

Reave is the best power in the game and she doesn't have that. And if only she had a nade based power like IDK cluster grenades she would be better.

The AA is my favorite kit that isn't a fat turian and the mere thought of ruining her with annoying grenadespamshit is deeply depressing to me

[The NightMan Cometh]

I actually agree with this one..I usually finish out my night with the vanilla Asari Adept w/ Paladin combo....I am not sure how this pattern started, Its just how I like ending my session...Warp/throw..Or Maybe I just like her big booms...

[Dunmer of Redoran]

Reave is the best power in the game and she doesn't have that. And if only she had a nade based power like IDK cluster grenades she would be better. I'm kind of jealous of the stasis bubble though. If my drell had that I would just stasis enemies and run around the mofos in circles 

 

She doesn't have Cluster Nades because that's the Drelldept's specialty. She's not supposed to be a massive CC damage dealer in her own right, as her reave stacking is already fairly powerful, the bubble has tremendous utility and she can take a substantial amount of punishment.

[NuclearTech76]

The AA is my favorite kit that isn't a fat turian and the mere thought of ruining her with annoying grenadespamshit is deeply depressing to me

Lol, the mere thought of enemies being ragdolled about like bowling pins everywhere by grenadespamshit is deeply entertaining to me. Cluster Grenades are appropriately named because they turn enemy spawns into a biotic clusterfuck. 

[NuclearTech76]

She doesn't have Cluster Nades because that's the Drelldept's specialty. She's not supposed to be a massive CC damage dealer in her own right, as her reave stacking is already fairly powerful, the bubble has tremendous utility and she can take a substantial amount of punishment.

She's a great character and a fun character but simply pointing out she isn't even the best biotic.

[Dunmer of Redoran]

She's a great character and a fun character but simply pointing out she isn't even the best biotic.

 

That comment has about as much weight as saying "SI isn't even the best infiltrator."

 

Doesn't matter. It's a fantastic kit with a lot of upside and very few downsides.

[NuclearTech76]

That comment has about as much weight as saying "SI isn't even the best infiltrator."

 

Doesn't matter. It's a fantastic kit with a lot of upside and very few downsides.

Considering the title of the thread, I would say it's appropriate. 

[Dunmer of Redoran]

Considering the title of the thread, I would say it's appropriate. 

 

Appropriate, but the OP itself is simultaneously wrong and isn't especially relevant. Most of the kits in the game are excellent and roughly equivalent to one another in power. There's a few standouts that are blatantly overpowered and put the other kits to shame (GI, QMI, Talon Merc, etc.) but for the most parts, the various kits are similar in terms of what they can do, on average, due to the variations we get in games due to team composition, enemy faction and map. The Commando is one such kit. The Justicar is another. Most characters in the game could go into this group. They're not the best, but what I'm getting at is that it doesn't really matter which is the best and which one isn't because most of them perform so similarly.

[NuclearTech76]

Appropriate, but the OP itself is simultaneously wrong and isn't especially relevant. Most of the kits in the game are excellent and roughly equivalent to one another in power. There's a few standouts that are blatantly overpowered and put the other kits to shame (GI, QMI, Talon Merc, etc.) but for the most parts, the various kits are similar in terms of what they can do, on average, due to the variations we get in games due to team composition, enemy faction and map. The Commando is one such kit. The Justicar is another. Most characters in the game could go into this group. They're not the best, but what I'm getting at is that it doesn't really matter which is the best and which one isn't because most of them perform so similarly.

Merc's fine if you play as the devs intended it. Cain mine spam is what makes it broken. Well that and the key binding **** up which doesn't effect me but probably is a PITA on PC. I see your point though, you have a lot of kits roughly equivalent in power in the right hands and then a few outliers that are OP or underpowered.  

[Salarian Master Race]

AA with Wraith and Warp Rounds turned out pretty good in the two games I just played with her.  Absolutely melts Scions, Praetorians, Ravagers, etc.

 

It's got a very simple Talon-like rotation:

 

Warp > Shoot, Shoot > Throw > Reload > Repeat

 

Works out perfectly.  It's almost like Xcal's Batarian Adept build, except Throw instead of Cluster Grenades.  I hate how those bounce all over the place, I can never get them to hit anything.

[Miniditka77]

I'll give it a try.  I never used it on console because lolthumbsticks

 

The Arc Pistol is the only gun I use any more on the AA, and I don't use the Arc Pistol that much on any other class.  I use it with Warp Ammo.  It's perfect for Stasis headshotting, especially against Phantoms and Possessed Collectors, where the Warp Ammo damage bonus against primed targets really becomes significant.  

 

There really isn't an enemy on the game that she isn't good against with that setup.  She's definitely not the "best" character, especially if you have good weapons.  But she is definitely one of the most versatile power-based classes on the game.

[Kenny Bania]

I like the 30% free CD on Stasis evolution, it doesn't sound like much but it's pretty nice.  Say you Statis a Phantom and you get a free CD.  Detonate it with Throw, which has such a fast CD you get a free Warp afterwards anyway.  Then while they are getting back up and you are shooting, if you're light enough you can do another Throw for free for another detonation.

 

I prefer detonating with warp in those instances. What I can't remember is whether or not the expose debuff applies to the BE.

 

She's a great character and a fun character but simply pointing out she isn't even the best biotic.

 

Wrong!!!!

[Miniditka77]

I prefer detonating with warp in those instances. What I can't remember is whether or not the expose debuff applies to the BE.

 

Yes, the BE does 15% more damage.  I'm like 97.4% sure.

[Kenny Bania]

Yes, the BE does 15% more damage.  I'm like 97.4% sure.

 

That's not enough!!!

[NuclearTech76]

Yes, the BE does 15% more damage.  I'm like 97.4% sure.

To the effected target but not the AOE explosion IIRC. I think this was in corlist's thread on combos but I could be wrong.

[PresidentVorchaMasterBaits]

All this talk about asari justicars and adepts is making me hot.