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A new race would need to be something that fit in with Dragon Age Lore. And if it isn't the Fex (which I don't even remember reading about, since it's been a long time since I played), then we should probably stick to the standard of "humanoid" set by the other races.

So, I don't think catpeople/dogpeople/werebears/etc. would work too well. I'm not too keen on the idea of merfolk either.

We've got elves, we've got dwarves, we've got giants (to me, the kossith are a combination of 'giant' and Elder Scrolls orcs). We even have golems. "Fex" frankly does sound like something you'd call cat-people. Whether that's the case or not, I don't know and likely never will. But if they're ever introduced, you can bet that someone's going to want them added in DA4 as a playable race.

We don't have "dark elves" which is another fantasy staple, but since the dwarves live underground, that's unlikely.

I'd like to see something like mountain-folk. Smaller than humans, skinnier than dwarves (possibly shorter than elves, with a similar build), tend to be pale and nimble and good at hiding. Perhaps they were the first people who tamed the griffins later used by the Grey Wardens, or created the spell to make them. Now that griffins are extinct, people have no reason to deal with them. Not halflings, mind you, but people who basically look adapted to scrambling around mountains. Being huge and lumbering in that environment would not be an advantage--food can be scarce there, and a lighter person is less likely to break rock/dirt away and plummet to his/her death. These people may or may not be horned like the qunari. They're pale because of their often snowy surroundings and tend to wear a lot of fur and are more carnivorous than other peoples of Thedas. They are rather isolationist, another reason that people rarely see them or speak of them anymore. If approached, they often either hide or kill intruders.

Alternately... Not shapeshifters, but a smarter form of dragonkin. It would never, ever be playable, but you could meet them and have a meaningful conversation, if you dared--they might view other species and races as being insignificant, or too dangerous to live. This kind of dragon, both males and females become huge winged beasts, and you could discover that they were the origin of the Old Gods. (Or not, because I still think the Old Gods are/were dragon abominations.) If this race existed, Flemeth could very well be a member of it who chose to masquerade as human for her own safety. There may be others doing the same thing elsewhere.

Yet another race idea is a race of beneficent abominations. As in, rather than Rage or Pride etc. they are abominations of Generosity, Peace, Hope, Healing, Bravery, or other more neutral concepts. Somehow the spirits escaped the Fade, and attached to certain people with their permission. The contract between this group of spirits and their hosts has existed and been renewed time and again. Over the centuries, this group has gone into hiding, and when one dies, the spirit attaches to a child within the race. The spirits and humans have cooperated to the point where the resultant people are both exceptional mages and have a considerably different, though not abominable, appearance from what they were originally. Due to their very nature, they remain in hiding--even though they are not evil with few if any exceptions, and don't go out of their way to cause harm, they are still considered abominations by the Chantry and their discovery would undoubtedly lead to their doom.

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What was that race of goblin/gremlin like enemies that were in Mark of the Assassin? There could be quite a bit we haven't seen.

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Cats or Lizard race ?! how lame and un-original, + they don't fit in DA universe. Why make new race when we can evolve two of the existing ones. Archdemon made the Darkspawn smart so we can have new race of smart DS. We can also move the series outside of Thedas and seek out the real Kossith that are not contaminated by Qun and they were never practicing sectional breeding.

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The only thing the Wiki has on Fex is discussion. (I don't know if anything is in World of Thedas.)

http://dragonage.wik...i/Forum:The_Fex

They apparently live only on Par Vollen, and were there before the kossith/qunari arrived. It's some kind of jungle species - though that could be anything. Lizardmen? Nobody knows.

My guess is, if we ever go to Par Vollen, we might see them, though not be them. Although it seems that the qunari may have wiped out most of them.

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Brass_Buckles wrote...
I'm not too keen on the idea of merfolk either.



Awww.... Why not? :(

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Batteries wrote...

Well, the Fex have been mentioned before.


Dictionary says: a combining form meaning “maker,” used in the formation of compound words: spinifex.

*jumps to conclusion*

They made the old gods.

Modifié par Siradix, 23 février 2014 - 09:14 .


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jam0603 wrote...

Cats or Lizard race ?! how lame and un-original, + they don't fit in DA universe. Why make new race when we can evolve two of the existing ones. Archdemon made the Darkspawn smart so we can have new race of smart DS. We can also move the series outside of Thedas and seek out the real Kossith that are not contaminated by Qun and they were never practicing sectional breeding.

Wouldn't it be a retcon if Kossith race is found to be alive again? Or are you saying a different race evolved from the Kossith that is not the Qunari? It would be very interesting if Kossith is physically different from the Qunari like maybe they're shorter than the current Qunari or different horn size and shape. Still, racially, they would still be the Qunari. I would rather have a different race with different looks.

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three ideas

1. Something with fangs and claws that allows them to fight without weaponry. Maybe a humanoid race based off of dragons or something like that.

2. Orcs/Ogres or anything else that has the thickness of a dwarf but height of a human.

3. A race that is similar to Fenris. Maybe explore a little back story that explains that Fenris' old master got the idea of flooding his veins with lyrium from observing or reading about this race.

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Ogres


They exist already. They're Tainted qunari/kossith - Darkspawn.

That said, we've never seen an Awakened type, yet. 

The Armored variety that showed up in DA:A truly were "tanks," though. 

P.S. I don't think we will ever see orcs, this is one Tolkien element they seem determined to ditch, even if many other games have not. 

I suspect the DA trolls will not be very much like Tolkien trolls - "just because."

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CybAnt1 wrote...

Ogres


They exist already. They're Tainted qunari/kossith - Darkspawn.

That said, we've never seen an Awakened type, yet. 

The Armored variety that showed up in DA:A truly were "tanks," though. 

P.S. I don't think we will ever see orcs, this is one Tolkien element they seem determined to ditch, even if many other games have not. 

I suspect the DA trolls will not be very much like Tolkien trolls - "just because."



Forgot about those ogres.

If they do add trolls in dragon age I just hope they aren't too human like. Give them funny noses or something.

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David Bowie - Cat People

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Versus Omnibus wrote...

Brass_Buckles wrote...
I'm not too keen on the idea of merfolk either.



Awww.... Why not? :(


I know they're very popular apparently, I just don't think they'd fit so great with the lore.  If they were done right, they could be interesting, but the one thing I think Bioware did really "right" was the Qunari, with their particular culture and appearance.  They're not like races in other games/books, whereas the dwarves and elves pretty much are, but with a twist.  I'd kind of prefer something that already fits well with the existing lore, and has a good reason we haven't heard about it before.

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A frog people.
Or a race like the spriggan from elder scrolls.

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I wouldn't mind a merfolk, but not sure how you would integrate them much since most of the time you are on land.

I wouldn't mind seeing a sapient bat-like species either. Bats have a bad reputation for some reason, but they are one of the most advanced and successful creatures to exist.

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I think it'd be really kool to see a portion of a race mutated into a different awesome race, much like dark elves in the elder scrolls. Though id rather them not be cursed by the maker or any such nonsense.... maybe it could have something to do with red lyrium or something else magical. Also if had a preference for which race they would come from it would be the elves or maybe dwarves if they became something awesome, but I probably wouldn't want them to be humans because humans are lame.

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A race of plant-based creatures would be pretty cool. Or maybe an aerial race of winged humanoids, who dwell in the mountains or something like that.

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Something like the Sand People in Star Wars.

They are an indigenous humanoid like race but are different enough as to not interbred. Also, due to very strict (and I mean VERY VERY strict) cultural laws, they never are seen in their true physical form (except with each other on very rare occasion) and they wear heavy clothes from head to toe 24/7 to cover all their skin and eyes.

On top of this, there is a inherent magic with them, in that, if ANY other race/people tries to look at them unclothed (even indirectly through a reflection) they (the other races) instantly die a horrible magical death. In addition, the magic makes their physical bodies instantly vanish when they themselves die.

Can you imagine the mystery and lore and gossip and FEAR that they would cause?!

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No anthropomorphized animal people.

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Lord Aesir wrote...

No anthropomorphized animal people.


Can we at least agree on humanoid body types?

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Darth Brotarian wrote...

Lord Aesir wrote...

No anthropomorphized animal people.


Can we at least agree on humanoid body types?

Yup, the hard part is coming up with something that isn't just "Cat people" or "Fish people".

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Dragon Age seems to stick to "traditional" (earth) medieval lore, they like to borrow straight from medieval texts of the time.

If so, there's nothing more 'traditional' (if fantastical, like dragons) than mermaids/merfolk.

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BTW, in most medieval tales - or heck, in Splash, or Disney's Little Mermaid, the problem of going out of the water seems to be solved by their fishtails turning into legs once they are on land (and apparently they are capable of breathing air.)

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I just don't like that approach because it strikes me as lazy. "Let's take humans and mash them up with cats: BAM! Cute kitty people."

And it never really comes across as natural because, rather than perceiving them as a unique species, there's that little voice in the back of my mind whispering "Their half human and half cat" rather than being a whole item.

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 Something like the Changeling race from D&D's Eberron campaign setting would be cool.

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Versus Omnibus wrote...

UC SIM wrote...

A mutation of humans who have lived by the sea for melenia, adapting to there lifestyle. Merman/maid like creatures, show emotions on their scalely skin threw chemical reactions, when there angry areas on there body will turn red, when they are calm they will return to blue ect.




I'm sensing a Mermaids: The Body Found vibe here.

I've seen that but completely forgotten it - never put much stalk into it.

Reasons: Hoaxes are very commen from the 1900's on and general lack of evidence otherwise.

I'm skeptical by nature though - when it comes to studies I prefere there to multipule examples and variables of said studies and recent too. Its quite incredoulous when you consider modern age how many hoaxes have led to huge profit magins for various people.

Example: A single study done in the early 1970's about cholesteral has had people taking statins to destroy/lower the cholesteral in the body - its been debunked in recent times as it lowers both HLH and LLH cholesteral and LLH cholesteral is very good to have.
Infact in Japan LLH cholesteral is considered a sign of good health and they have a long life expectancy.

But this has gone way off topic I'll stop my ramblings now =)

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 @themageguy and Darth Brotarian

So basically have the Lady of the Forest be a member of an entire race?