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[CybAnt1]

As Franz Boas noted (the founder of American Anthropology), your genes have nothing to do with what language you speak, or what cultural traits you possess. Those things are not genetically determined. They are a product of your socialization. If you grow up around people speaking Malay, you will speak Malay - regardless of what you look like, physically. If you grow up around people eating Chinese food, you too will eat it, but that will not give your eyes the epicanthic fold. 

 

Genes do determine your skin color, facial features, and other aspects of phenotype. It's on that basis that people are assigned "races". 

[Fast Jimmy]

Merethari clan and Zathrian clan are different ethnic of the same race that is Dalish, of the same species that is Elves

 

There are non-Dalish Elves..."Dalish" are Elves who originated from Dales, they call themselves "Dalish" while they are of various of races and ethnic

 

I don't see how they are even different ethnicities, though? They practice the same customs. Dress in the same manner. Share the same language. Adhere to the same religion. They are the same ethnic group, they just don't live in the same community.

 

And, to be frank, not all who call themselves Dalish lived in the Dales, proper. That it is a little bit like saying everyone who lives in New York and calls themselves a New Yorker can trace their heritage back to the English city of York. It is a bit of a misnomer.

[GreyLycanTrope]

No, they are still different species, they are not human

 

As all Americans speak English, doesn't make they are all Englishmen...they are Americans by language, nationality and culture, each of their own race by ancestral

You're definition of race doesn't back up this distinction. If we follow it based on language and culture as the criteria for race then the humans and elves of Feralden are all one race, and you'd be hard pressed to show that they aren't just phenotypic variants of the same species as they can interbreed successfully.

[CybAnt1]

I'd say at this point the elven race in DA has two cultures:

 

The Dalish culture, which is nomadic, and lives in the wilderness.

The City Elf culture, which is urban, and appears to be mostly made up of slaves and/or folk stuck in various city Alienages.

 

The Dalish mostly seek to avoid humans, the City Elves choose to live among them. 

[Fast Jimmy]

Dales is a land, country, nationality..."Dalish" is a nationality. Elven is species. They have their own races of Elves, ethnicity in within the race

No, that's not the case. Being elvish is not a species - they can interbreed with humans. The very definition of species is that they cannot interbreed and have offspring that are fertile. 

 

If elves are not a different species, then they have to be a different race. Therefore, all elves are one race. All humans are one race. All dwarves are one race. Because they can all have offspring together. Qunari may be a different species - we haven't seen how they handle the non-Qunari hanky panky.

[Fast Jimmy]

Human is a species, not race...we are of human being

 

Aliens are different being, a different species

 

Elf, Dwarf and Qunari are of different species, and not human being

 

Not according to the definition of the word species.

 

Biology . the major subdivision of a genus or subgenus, regarded as the basic category of biologicalclassification, composed of related individuals that resemble one another, are able to breed amongthemselves, but are not able to breed with members of another species.

[Ozzy]

Has it been confirmed that the Moody Cow people can breed with the other races on Thedas? 

[Hanako Ikezawa]

Has it been confirmed that the Moody Cow people can breed with the other races on Thedas? 

It has not been confirmed, but has not been denied. Since we can play as a Qunari who can pursue a love interest, I'm guessing this game may answer it.

[AresKeith]

I think western people confused between nationalism, racism, tribalism...because of you guys always look at antropologic scientific definitions and not cultural...

 

 

No, that's you

[Luiren]

I want to see Nug People. They would be bi-pedal, have very fancy voices, and be a superior advanced race. They would also wear togas.

[JoltDealer]

I would like to see a race that aren't mages, but are effectively living in both the Fade and Thedas at the same time.  Like a fifth dimensional being of sorts.  

[Shadow Raziel]

Overused, but still....( Dark )tough take no crap elves. not the dances in the moonlight glasses of milk  type of elves in most genres with an affinity for nature. more drow like. 

[Silfren]

It does...race is determined by language and culture

 

No, it isn't, unless you're about to start claiming that my white butt is the same race as my African-American friends and acquaintances.  

[AmRMa]

Anybody watch the the Dark Crystal? I would want Gelfling- like people but not Skeksis their freaky.

[Silfren]

Anybody watch the the Dark Crystal? I would want Gelfling- like people but not Skeksis their freaky.

 

I kinda wonder if dragons wouldn't eventually come up as a separate race.  Dragonlike humanoids isn't exactly an unheard of concept in fantasy, whether talking about humans who just have dragon-y features, or humans who can shapeshift into dragons.  There's certainly a credible foundation for it within the DA universe. 

[Hanako Ikezawa]

I kinda wonder if dragons wouldn't eventually come up as a separate race.  Dragonlike humanoids isn't exactly an unheard of concept in fantasy, whether talking about humans who just have dragon-y features, or humans who can shapeshift into dragons.  There's certainly a credible foundation for it within the DA universe. 

I would love for their to be dragonkin(I always think of the Manakete from the Fire Emblem franchise personally), but I don't think that's going to happen. For one, it will trivialize one of Flemeth's main powers of shapeshifting into a dragon. Second, dragons are just animals according to David Gaider, so having intelligent dragons who transform into humanoids would counteract that.

[Silfren]

Butt is butt, only face makes the difference....

 

I spent entirely too much time laughing at this.  *cleans ginger beer off her screen*

[Silfren]

I would love for their to be dragonkin(I always think of the Manakete from the Fire Emblem franchise personally), but I don't think that's going to happen. For one, it will trivialize one of Flemeth's main powers of shapeshifting into a dragon. Second, dragons are just animals according to David Gaider, so having intelligent dragons who transform into humanoids would counteract that.

 

But we already have the precedent that the Old Gods were more than just animals, don't we? And that they were intelligent, on par with humans?  I don't agree that it would trivialize Flemeth, though.  It would just add a whole new dimension to the question of what she is.

[Hanako Ikezawa]

But we already have the precedent that the Old Gods were more than just animals, don't we? And that they were intelligent, on par with humans?  I don't agree that it would trivialize Flemeth, though.  It would just add a whole new dimension to the question of what she is.

True, but I think the Old Gods were something else and took the visage of dragons to awe the people of Ancient Thedas. I mean, what's more awe-inspiring than a giant dragon? And I guess Flemeth could have potentially cracked their magic to transform into a draconoid form. 

 

Don't get me wrong. Like I said, I would love their to be a dragonkin race. I just don't think that will happen if they add another race.

[Nuloen]

I would love for their to be dragonkin(I always think of the Manakete from the Fire Emblem franchise personally), but I don't think that's going to happen. For one, it will trivialize one of Flemeth's main powers of shapeshifting into a dragon. Second, dragons are just animals according to David Gaider, so having intelligent dragons who transform into humanoids would counteract that.

Kossith have dragon origin
And i think saarebases are those who still have dragon power and connection to kossith animal pantheon that qunari look at theyre animal gods as corruption becouse it is against qun rules they now know
And used to look more dragon like in the past that is why they cut theyre horns off and hide theyre faces in masks
Original purpose was lost but tradition still stands but thats just my theory

[Nuloen]

Butt is butt, only face makes the difference....

Well i though we all are human race and our visuality is just about where our ancestors lived and it doesnt matter if we are black(actually africans are brown, i dont know what idiot called them black first time) or white or gray they will still be humans and kossith,dwarves or elves are so close to humans as wolf to dog

Becouse it is proved that if white man moves into africa his children will start to be more brown colored and his grand children are even more brown if they stay in africa (if you ask why this doesnt work in republic of south africa its becouse it is too close to south pole)
And it is also scientifically proved that our genetical perferences are decided few days before we will born
So if you will born in cold enviroment your body will be more ready for cold and it doesnt matter if your parents are from africa or from scandinavia

[InvincibleHero]

I would go off the wall make the lyrium alive. So in consuming it,  you are actually killing a sentient creature. A crystaline race of beings is not very common in games/media. The madness of red lyrium could be them psionically fighting back. To go further it would explain how it can create magical effects being similar to bloodmagic using their life force to power it.

[darkchief10]

Actually, that is debatable...different climate didn't change races, no matter how long white men being in Africa, won't change them to African i mean not the nationality, but the feature...it is because of DNA. We human have different traits that makes us all into different races in features...it is said that the only same thing tht link us all is the color of our nails....it is not weather or climate that chage our physical, it is determined by traits.

 

Of course people can intermarried or inter ****** or inter raping with each other and create new races, the trait will pass on, if it is not disturbed in a long time, it become permanent and new race is emerged. If it is disturbed, it will either goes back to their ancestral features or becoming something else...

 

The rest is cultural and language, furthermore religion...but the nature of most religion is spreading between races, so religion is no more a factor of determine races. Culture and language is still.

 

Example Arab and Jews, both are from the same ancestor, but these two are different races altogether. They don't share same language, culture, religion, and features. It is because of they themselves evolve in different culture altogether after being separated. So an Arab is an Arab, a Jew is a Jew. Within the race there's the ehnic...in Arab there are Beduin, Quraishin, Kalb and many more...they generally share the same culture, language and features only little difference from each other

 

Why Arabs don't turn black? They live in hot and sunny climate for thousands of years. The condition is similar with Africa. Still Arab is Arab and African is African.  It is because of the DNA trait. Only this will change races feature, not climate or anything else.

 

Malay people was Indo-Aryan and the lost tribe of Israel...these mixed up and become the Mala people. "Mala" means egg...what egg? Dragon Egg....from this egg a dragon will come out and roam the earth, clean it up from all evil and injustice.....and start the age of dragon.....Dragon Age

 

Himalaya is where we come from...from Mala becomes Melayu...English call us Malaya or Malays

Oh my god, I actually agree with something quistina said? Did i die when I wasn't looking?

In all seriousness though, yeah genetics has nothing to do with region a white man's children will only be darker skinned if he marries a darker skinned woman since dark skin tends to be the dominant gene. otherwise if if two white people marry their children will be white, regardless of region.

 

I'm aware you don't need to marry someone to have children I'm just making a point

[karushna5]

I would love an orc race! I always liked orcs and always felt they never get a fair shake in fantasy. A new take them would be amazing. I can just imagine how they could change how they normally are.