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#51
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Dalish mages are nice and all, but the real question is...CAN WE PLAY AS  A SAAREBAS?! 

 

Having your mouth stitched shut, or possibly your tongue ripped out would make an interesting playthrough from a RP standpoint .XD

 

Better they let us play a true Qunari!

 

Dialog:

 

(Diplomatic) : Wisdom of the Qun

(Snarky) : Wisdom of the Qun

(Aggressive) : Wisdom of the Qun



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So... toss the templars, toss the Chantry, have a new group of soldiers who have templar training but have no religious affiliation, abolish Tranquility... all for starters. We could work with this.

Yes,reform the circle in a way that resembles an educational institution rather than a prison.As soon as a mage passes their harrowing they can leave the circle and live their own lives.
It sounds quite hogwarts-y though,so I don't know if they will go with it.



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I second that! :wizard:

 

 

I third that!

 

 

You are special and powerful.

Nature is with us  :)



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The save imports restricted the variety of outcomes for ending this war. Either the mages will be free canonically, or there'll be a system that will allow to show changes based on which side you supported. A Circle system that is different if you supported mages/templars/Chantry seems likely. I think the chances of very different outcomes are very low (glad to be wrong though).
Of course, they could still follow the 'the war doesn't end in this game' path, which at the moment I think it's very plausible.
Regardless, a part of the players will be disappointed.

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Better they let us play a true Qunari!
 
Dialog:
 
(Diplomatic) : Wisdom of the Qun
(Snarky) : Wisdom of the Qun
(Aggressive) : Wisdom of the Qun

diplomatic/sarcastic/aggressive don't exist anymore. The tones are Noble, Clever and Direct.

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diplomatic/sarcastic/aggressive don't exist anymore. The tones are Noble, Clever and Direct.

The great thing about the Qunari is that it doesn't change a thing. ~_^



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The great thing about the Qunari is that it doesn't change a thing. ~_^


Yeah I know :D. I just thought you didn't know about the change, so I wanted to inform you.

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The save imports restricted the variety of outcomes for ending this war. Either the mages will be free canonically, or there'll be a system that will allow to show changes based on which side you supported. A Circle system that is different if you supported mages/templars/Chantry seems likely. I think the chances of very different outcomes are very low (glad to be wrong though).
Of course, they could still follow the 'the war doesn't end in this game' path, which at the moment I think it's very plausible.
Regardless, a part of the players will be disappointed.

 

Personally i thinking it will be limping into the next game, perhaps the one after that although i do believe the majority of the action will occur in DAI's Sequel.

 

Not saying we won't see a few dust ups during DAI but i have a feeling with the Veil torn asunder the Mages and Templars will at least for the moment put their war on hold to combat the end of the world; That seems like the thing Bioware would do in this situation given it allows the plot element to remain, the factions to remain and while you may impart some advantage to one faction or another that may or may not carry over to the sequel it ultimately will matter little whom the inquisitor favored.

 

o-o Course that doesn't mean my Inquisitor won't know what to do with rebel mages, No sir.

 

He knows very well what to do with them.



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Personally i thinking it will be limping into the next game, perhaps the one after that although i do believe the majority of the action will occur in DAI's Sequel.
 
Not saying we won't see a few dust ups during DAI but i have a feeling with the Veil torn asunder the Mages and Templars will at least for the moment put their war on hold to combat the end of the world; That seems like the thing Bioware would do in this situation given it allows the plot element to remain, the factions to remain and while you may impart some advantage to one faction or another that may or may not carry over to the sequel it ultimately will matter little whom the inquisitor favored.
 
o-o Course that doesn't mean my Inquisitor won't know what to do with rebel mages, No sir.
 
He knows very well what to do with them.


I agree that it might resolve in mostly amen advantages for one side over the other.
Though in this case I really hope I'll have the option of security an alliance with boths, even in exchange of some negative consequences.

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So... toss the templars, toss the Chantry, have a new group of soldiers who have templar training but have no religious affiliation, abolish Tranquility... all for starters. We could work with this.

 

If there's a rebellion transpiring in the occupied nation of the Dales, then it's possible the rumors of an elven rebellion might lead to an outcome of autonomy for the elven state. I doubt that the Dalish, for example, would allow the templars - Andrastian soldiers who think they have dominion over mages by divine right - to have authority over the Elvhen or their mages, especially when they see non-Andrastians as heathens. An elven kingdom where mages live alongside non-mages, rather than having mages forced into servitude to the Chantry of Andraste and their militant arm.



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If there's a rebellion transpiring in the occupied nation of the Dales, then it's possible the rumors of an elven rebellion might lead to an outcome of autonomy for the elven state. I doubt that the Dalish, for example, would allow the templars - Andrastian soldiers who think they have dominion over mages by divine right - to have authority over the Elvhen or their mages, especially when they see non-Andrastians as heathens. An elven kingdom where mages live alongside non-mages, rather than having mages forced into servitude to the Chantry of Andraste and their militant arm.

The biggest question, of course, being the notion of getting human mages interested in the welfare of this elven nation. I'm sure it can be done, but how should it be so?



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If there's a rebellion transpiring in the occupied nation of the Dales, then it's possible the rumors of an elven rebellion might lead to an outcome of autonomy for the elven state. I doubt that the Dalish, for example, would allow the templars - Andrastian soldiers who think they have dominion over mages by divine right - to have authority over the Elvhen or their mages, especially when they see non-Andrastians as heathens. An elven kingdom where mages live alongside non-mages, rather than having mages forced into servitude to the Chantry of Andraste and their militant arm.

Probably,Since the Dalish are not in good terms with the chantry as you mentioned.Also considering the fact that magic among the Elvhen is a gist that, according to the dalish, once all the elves possessed they probably won't be suspicious towards mages in the way a human society influenced by the Chantry and the Andrastian faith would be.
Though As far as the city elves are concerned,we can't say for sure,since they seem to adapt the culture and beliefs of the society they find themselves in.The majority of them have already converted a long time ago and are now considered Andrastians.



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You're both assuming that the dalish would like to have humans
mages in their new kingdom permanently. Franky, I found it unlikely.

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Probably,Since the Dalish are not in good terms with the chantry as you mentioned.Also considering the fact that magic among the Elvhen is a gist that, according to the dalish, once all the elves possessed they probably won't be suspicious towards mages in the way a human society influenced by the Chantry and the Andrastian faith would be.
Though As far as the city elves are concerned,we can't say for sure,since they seem to adapt the culture and beliefs of the society they find themselves in.The majority of them have already converted a long time ago and are now considered Andrastians.

Of course they'll not be suspicious of human mages. It's not like their first homeland was destroyed by, well human mages.

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The biggest question, of course, being the notion of getting human mages interested in the welfare of this elven nation. I'm sure it can be done, but how should it be so?

I doubt human mages will be accepted in an Elven nation.The are despised by both dalish and city elves,unless of course they have elven blood like Feynriel.Even then they will be looked down upon.



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Of course they'll not be suspicious of human mages. It's not like their first homeland was destroyed by, well human mages.

And that's the reason I believe that if an elven nation was founded again,they would once more isolate themselves from the humans. Mages or not



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At best, the Elfs and Mages will enact the policy of "the enemy of my enemy is my friend". Both dislike the Chantry, yet both should know that they face a tough time standing alone so the logical choice is to ally themselves until the war is over.



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At best, the Elfs and Mages will enact the policy of "the enemy of my enemy is my friend". Both dislike the Chantry, yet both should know that they face a tough time standing alone so the logical choice is to ally themselves until the war is over.


The elves will have a role in the Orlesian Civil war, considering The Masked Throne's premise. I doubt they'd mix the two plots together.

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The elves will have a role in the Orlesian Civil war, considering The Masked Throne's premise. I doubt they'd mix the two plots together.

Considering Inquisition is about "saving the world from itself", I wouldn't be surprised if they get mixed up together.



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At best, the Elfs and Mages will enact the policy of "the enemy of my enemy is my friend". Both dislike the Chantry, yet both should know that they face a tough time standing alone so the logical choice is to ally themselves until the war is over.

At best...Although I don't think they will trust humans mages ever again,considering what happened with the Tevinter magisters,back in the days of Arlathan...



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Considering Inquisition is about "saving the world from itself", I wouldn't be surprised if they get mixed up together.

How it is relevant? Saving the world from itself can be done by resolving all the problems separately.
The major problems with melding the plots is the it'll multiplicste the outcomes you need, considering that you have to account for every hyphotethical alliance. I doubt it's going to happen.

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How it is relevant? Saving the world from itself can be done by resolving all the problems separately.
The major problems with melding the plots is the it'll multiplicste the outcomes you need, considering that you have to account for every hyphotethical alliance. I doubt it's going to happen.

Oh, I misunderstood what you were saying. My apologies.



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Someone asked him (Luke Kristjansen) point blank and he said yes, what they are exploring is how different ( special) and diverse the mage backgrounds are and what effect the veil tear has on them and the events that may have lead to it.
 

Yes but keep in mind that the devs had also said previously that there would be no race selection, yet here we are. I'm just saying that it is most likely that the Elven mage PC will be dalish, but I'm also saying that we shouldn't take that as a fact just yet.



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The biggest question, of course, being the notion of getting human mages interested in the welfare of this elven nation. I'm sure it can be done, but how should it be so?

 

An alliance between the mages who are fighting for their autonomy from Lambert's forces, and the Elvhen who want to establish a nation where they can be their own masters, instead of the limitations of being a servant or a slave in the human kingdoms. The Mage-Templar War is erupting all across Thedas, and the mages could use all the allies they can get. An autonomous elven state of the Dales would also be in the vicinity of the entrance to Orzammar, which is the source for the lyrium that both templars and mages use.



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An alliance between the mages who are fighting for their autonomy from Lambert's forces, and the Elvhen who want to establish a nation where they can be their own masters, instead of the limitations of being a servant or a slave in the human kingdoms. The Mage-Templar War is erupting all across Thedas, and the mages could use all the allies they can get. An autonomous elven state of the Dales would also be in the vicinity of the entrance to Orzammar, which is the source for the lyrium that both templars and mages use.

Question: Are you sure we shouldn't hold out for Arlathan if we want a purely elven nation? I think the elves could settle the Dales at least temporarily without having to expel the humans.