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[Loghain Mac-Tir]

Lotion Soronnar wrote...

I am a human, therefore I can think like a human.

I am not an elf, dwarf, quanri, a vampire, a spirit or anything similar. I can't think like them.
No one can - although I bet some roleplayers think they can.

So given that elves and dwarves are basicly psychiologicly humans... I might was well play a human. Not to say I don't play elves or dwarves. But human is my default.

Not all humans think alike,Just because we are both humans, you and I, does not mean I  can understand how you think or vice-versa. Hence Psychology, Anthropology what have you.

For example 

In Human Noble origin, you played as the son of second or third most powerful person in the enitre country, can you think like him.

In magi origin you play as a guy who is Blessed with a power which is more of a curse, and for that one thing, he will never be fully trusted by most of people. He'll always be at a risk of turning into a monster, can you think like him?

I think there are more people in this world relatable to City Elf, People of a different race treated as second class citizens, who were formally enslaved (Blacks in American pre Civil rights Movement)

Dalish Elf,  Nomads not beholden to any form of government (there are various tribes all around the world that live a nomadic lifestyle)

Now I know, you are not neccesarily a member of that group, but to say you only play human because you can not imagine what other races think like, then, well you have a very limited imagination.

And the whole point of the background stories for each origin is for the same purpose of letting you get a feel of what those people think.

Modifié par Loghain Mac-Tir, 24 février 2014 - 03:15 .

[Fast Jimmy]

CybAnt1 wrote...

Like I keep saying, RPing is about fun. Really. In a multiplayer game, people are doing it because it's fun. Why not occasionally address your fellow players in odd archaisms and weird speech patterns? You can or cannot invoke the typical fantasy tropes that every dwarf speaks in a drunken Scottish accent.

I'll just leave this here for anyone who gets it...

[Lorien19]

I don't know, I usually play elves because I like the way they're portrayed in the DA universe...
It's far more interesting for me to have an underdog or someone completely alien(like a dwarf for example) with the dominant culture rise to power and be revered as a hero by those who despise or don't understand their culture.
That is a reason I try every other race and leave humans for the last playthrough...The human magi is a different story though,since magic in Thedas is a whole chapter on it's own and race doesn't matter as much as the fact, that you can shoot lighting from your palms.

[KainD]

I don't know why the Asari are considered the apex organic race of that cycle, 
They do not ace at anything

Salarians own in Technology
Humans or Turians own Militaristically
Krogans for their brute strength

I know they are bilogically superior being, living for 1000+ years and getting stronger with age

but really, when an angry krogan is charging at you, your huge lifespan is not gonna save you.

 

Asari ace at being the strongest biotics in the galaxy. Their tech is high grade, their military is actually high quality though what they lack is numbers, but that's they don't really like to fight as a society. Were they to change some of their politics they would have a military far superior. 

A charging krogan just gets a singularity to the face when it comes to asari. 

 

Also another thing I personally like about asari is that they are all monogendered, and as such things like sexism and sexual prejudice and stereotypes do not exist in asari culture. This is unique to all other races and something I consider they ace at. 

[Gwydden]

Asari ace at being the strongest biotics in the galaxy. Their tech is high grade, their military is actually high quality though what they lack is numbers, but that's they don't really like to fight as a society. Were they to change some of their politics they would have a military far superior. 

A charging krogan just gets a singularity to the face when it comes to asari. 

 

Also another thing I personally like about asari is that they are all monogendered, and as such things like sexism and sexual prejudice and stereotypes do not exist in asari culture. This is unique to all other races and something I consider they ace at. 

Incredible genetic redundancy and homogeneity are points in their favor?

[KainD]

Incredible genetic redundancy and homogeneity are points in their favor?

 

Naturally. 

[Gwydden]

Naturally. 

You have some strange views on evolution.

[KainD]

You have some strange views on evolution.

 

Things only evolve until they have reached the point of perfection, and then face possible extinction. 

[Gwydden]

Things only evolve until they have reached the point of perfection, and then face possible extinction. 

Perfection is moving goal. Can chase, cannot catch.

[KainD]

Perfection is moving goal. Can chase, cannot catch.

 

It's up to you to decide whether you want to move the goal after you've caught it, but you can catch it. 

[Vinitchz]

Let me share my perspective with you on the matter.

Elves are short and thin, and don't feel powerful or imposing. So they're not for me.

Dwarves are especially short and culturally gruff. Above elves, but still not my favorite.

Qunari are new. But I have a prejudice developed from previous games that DAI will have to stir before I try them.

So human it is.

I feel the same way, I don't know why, but playing as human, always feels more heroic to me, being human and mage it was a interesting choice because the same entity who "possible" create your species is used as a form of repression, I found that conflict very attractive to play along.

[General TSAR]

LOL. There is no such thing as "Ultimate Perfection" in Evolution. 

 

Mother Nature and Father Time made sure of that.

[Gwydden]

It's up to you to decide whether you want to move the goal after you've caught it, but you can catch it. 

The very fact that you can move the goal implies that you haven't reached perfection. I believe we are drifting from the purpose of this conversation, though. In a similar fashion as many here seem unable to grasp the appeal of a human PC, I fail to understand what's what makes so many prefer a non-human one.

[KainD]

LOL. There is no such thing as "Ultimate Perfection" in Evolution. 

 

 

Again, it's not universal, nothing is. Only you personally get to decide what ultimate perfection is. If you think the current human is the ultimate perfection then so it shall be. 

[General TSAR]

Again, there is no such thing as ultimate perfection in Evolution.  

[KainD]

Again, there is no such thing as ultimate perfection in Evolution.  

 

If that is your opinion then yes. 

[General TSAR]

I want to play as a nug.

Who doesn't?

 

But then again, a nug is about as smart and useful as a turnip. 

[durasteel]

For me it was really the Origin that determined my preference. I played them all, and while I enjoyed the dwarf story a lot, the human noble origin story was the one I clicked with. The human seems to be the one who fits in with the story the most in the early parts in Ostagar, and really seems to fit with making out with Morrigan in Lothering. Hell, you even meet Dog in your origin story as a human noble, he's your dog from home instead of some random mabari you manage to muzzle in Ostagar.

 

I wound up playing all the races eventually, but human noble was the one that clicked with me, and I played that entire story several times.

 

For Inquisition, I might try an elf female rogue just to shake things up. My headcanon has the Warden as a warrior, Hawke as a mage, so it's time for some backstab.

[durasteel]

I want to play as a nug.

I'm hoping theres a DLC called the Tainted Beast Chronicles that let us play as a blightwolf or a bearskarn.

[Lotion Soronarr]

Now I know, you are not neccesarily a member of that group, but to say you only play human because you can not imagine what other races think like, then, well you have a very limited imagination.

And the whole point of the background stories for each origin is for the same purpose of letting you get a feel of what those people think.

 

 

You're missing the point.

Which was that the dwarves, evels, qunari... they basicly are psychologicly humans, because they are written by humans and "played" by humans.

Meaning there is no real difference in playing them and a normal human.

[KaiserShep]

I suppose some difference could be in whatever misanthropic sentiment the character is permitted to convey, like, for example, the elven Warden's ability to occasionally be a bit more hostile to human beings on the basis of their race alone. Of course, there's no telling if this will be a meaningful thing in DA:I. I guess it really comes down to how much these nuances mean to the player.

[Dermain]

I suppose some difference could be in whatever misanthropic sentiment the character is permitted to convey, like, for example, the elven Warden's ability to occasionally be a bit more hostile to human beings on the basis of their race alone. Of course, there's no telling if this will be a meaningful thing in DA:I. I guess it really comes down to how much these nuances mean to the player.

 

If any of that is actually meaningful outside of the origin/random quest I'm pretty sure many Human purists (myself included) will actually play the other races to see how it plays out.

 

If it isn't meaningful, HUMANS FOREVER!!!

[Grieving Natashina]

I've played 3 humans out of the 13 or so times I've played Origins.  I did it the first two times to become Queen (screwed up big time with the first one,) and did it the third time for giggles.  My main reason was that the Cousland PC becoming king/queen actually seems to have at least a little impact on the story.  Not any of the other races did.

 

Usually I play elves, since I enjoy being the underdog and elves are very low caste in this setting.  I enjoy that, actually; I like that for once they aren't these powerful willowy beings that are very powerful (LOTR) and/or only recently lost their power (both elf factions in WoW.)

[Mistress9Nine]

It's easier to project more roles onto humans, because with different races you have thi preconception of what they shuld act like. For example you could easily make a racist human, or a human who is sympathetic to other races, you can justify both. Hell, you can justify being shitty to other humans, destroying the Ashes of Andraste, which is an integral part of human religion (and as such, human culture) in Thedas. But as an elf, I couldn't ever come up with a character (unless they were a total sociopath) that would hurt their own race so much, like say if they found Arlathan, to make the decision to destroy it. Because for an elf, part of his character is his race, his history. So for me, my characters of other races tend to be less varied (I still love them, in fact I totally prefer elves to humans). With humans, I can let my imagination fly more easily. It might just be me though.