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[Fast Jimmy]

Volus Warlord wrote...

I am expecting another delay. In all seriousness, all we have is a few clips, some twitter statements, and some concept art. There is no assurance for how far along they are in the game's production. Absolutely none.

The first due date was most likely something thrown out to please some shareholders, who always think they can spend $10 and make $2000. A total fabrication with little to no grounds in reality. The second was (probably) a "goal" for Bioware-a date set so that they have something to work for, and also to say they have a date. Most likely very optimistic, and while much more practical than the first, still not wholly viable. So I'm expecting another 3-6 month push back for them to actually finish the game.

Frankly I wouldn't mind if they delayed it. I don't need it to survive, and if they need to delay it so we don't have ANOTHER train wreck, please do so. It is much better for both Bioware and us if they do. Just stay the hell away from Duke Nukem Forever territory and delays are fine.

Agreed. Although, as I think I may have said a bit upthread, the biggest downfalls of Duke Nukem was changing technology. Every few years, they changed engines or platforms or systems, losing tons of resources each time. At the very least, DA:I (as well as Mass Effect Next) are coming out on Frostbite. Anything made today should be able to be used two/three/four years from now. So it doesn't suffer the same risks of many other games if it gets stuck in a longer development cycle. 

[Volus Warlord]

Fast Jimmy wrote...

Volus Warlord wrote...

I am expecting another delay. In all seriousness, all we have is a few clips, some twitter statements, and some concept art. There is no assurance for how far along they are in the game's production. Absolutely none.

The first due date was most likely something thrown out to please some shareholders, who always think they can spend $10 and make $2000. A total fabrication with little to no grounds in reality. The second was (probably) a "goal" for Bioware-a date set so that they have something to work for, and also to say they have a date. Most likely very optimistic, and while much more practical than the first, still not wholly viable. So I'm expecting another 3-6 month push back for them to actually finish the game.

Frankly I wouldn't mind if they delayed it. I don't need it to survive, and if they need to delay it so we don't have ANOTHER train wreck, please do so. It is much better for both Bioware and us if they do. Just stay the hell away from Duke Nukem Forever territory and delays are fine.

Agreed. Although, as I think I may have said a bit upthread, the biggest downfalls of Duke Nukem was changing technology. Every few years, they changed engines or platforms or systems, losing tons of resources each time. At the very least, DA:I (as well as Mass Effect Next) are coming out on Frostbite. Anything made today should be able to be used two/three/four years from now. So it doesn't suffer the same risks of many other games if it gets stuck in a longer development cycle. 

Duke Nukem Forever is kind of a hyperbole. It was in development for fifteen (15!) yearsish. So they HAD to swap the engine to stay current. And you're right, we should face no such danger in DA:I. 

[DrBlingzle]

Personally I'll be okay if they push it back again. I'd rather have a well designed game later than a rushed one sooner.

[CybAnt1]

They started play testing in January.
http://dragonage.wik...test_(Vancouver)

That may not be true 'beta' testing yet (which you would see in the finalization stages right before gold master) but it sounds like things are moving along.

I wouldn't take lack of information (which I think honestly is not just motivated by how BSNers react to it or other fans, but more by time-tested EA marketing strategy, which is to key up the hype machine within the proper interval of time; and we're not there yet) to mean things are not finished or not done.

Yes, I want the bug-squashing to be thorough. There may not be a mod "cure" for many bugs so I want them stomped and who knows how the patch cycle will go. I do agree they should take as much time as they need; that said, I don't think a Fall 2014 release seems (yet) out of the question.

I do think the dev diaries (delayed themselves for whatever reason) could shed insight on this.

[JeffZero]

TK514 wrote...

I just assumed that when they said "Fall 2014" they meant "Spring 2015".

Bingo.

[TheChris92]

Delays can be tiresome if taken to ridiculous proportions -- But if Inquisition is delayed so I may end up having something as great as the racial choice in character customization implemented, or just some more good content in general -- Then I say go for it.

[SNascimento]

No.

Also, there is no lack of info whatsoever, the release is still half a year away. We actually had a very thorough gameplay demo which is always a good sign.

[The Evil Chris]

I think it is unlikely that it would be pushed back, but if it did get pushed back, I would be ok with that.

Sure, I'd be disappointed as I'm planning to play DAI over the Christmas break. However, I want DAI to be an awesome game. While I liked DA2 for the most part, I am hoping that DAI improves on the areas of DA2 that I didn't enjoy. I am confidant that BioWare will have used the extra year they've had (as mentioned, the date has changed once before) to make DAI the best game it can be.

Could it be delayed? Sure. I think both BioWare and EA recognize that DA2 disappointed some fans. I think they also look to the massive success (both financial and critical) of Skyrim and recognize that a really good fantasy RPG can be super successful and profitable. BioWare always cares about the quality of the game and EA cares about their games being profitable. If both sides recognize that more time is needed to make the game better AND more profitable, I could see it happening.

Still, I don't think it'll be delayed. The team making DAI is well experienced in making great games and has had plenty of time, even extra time, to make this one amazing. I'm confidant they will release it this fall as planned.

[Fast Jimmy]

The Evil One has spoken.

[AxeloftheKey]

LDS Darth Revan wrote...

fchopin wrote...

I wish they pushed DA2 back another year as we could have had a good game with a good ending that made sense.

Having said that i don’t think DAI will be delayed.

Well, I think EA learned from DA2 and even ME3 that RPGs can't be rushed like gameplay-based games, hence why they were generous to give an entire extra year.

"Like gameplay-based games"

What does that mean? Implication that developing gameplay mechanics is somehow easier or less important than writing a good story?
Because that's absolutely untrue. Just...Yeah.

On-topic, I doubt we'll see a delay. EA gave Bioware an extra year already, continuing to push it back hurts them financially and harms their reputation. We will see a release date (Or closer release window) at E3. If we don't, then you can worry.

[MesTarrant]

Well great now I'm nervous.


I had wondered why we weren't getting any more info on the other companions.

[The Evil Chris]

MesTarrant wrote...

I had wondered why we weren't getting any more info on the other companions.

Because there is (roughly) 8-9 months between now and "fall"? If they give us everything now, there won't be anything to build hype with closer to launch.

Patience. There should be some new content revealed at PAX East or E3 at least. It's coming.

[Br3admax]

Considering the game was ready in November, I doubt it. The extra year is really just here to add things like races to the game, which shouldn't take that much time either.

[badboy64]

ElitePinecone wrote...

No way, José.

They already pushed it back a year, I can't see that happening again.

Agreed. I don't see it pushed back anymore than it already has. Too many people are getting paranoid because of the lack of information. The less information is better for me until 2 months when it is close released.

[Hanako Ikezawa]

AxeloftheKey wrote...

LDS Darth Revan wrote...

fchopin wrote...

I wish they pushed DA2 back another year as we could have had a good game with a good ending that made sense.

Having said that i don’t think DAI will be delayed.

Well, I think EA learned from DA2 and even ME3 that RPGs can't be rushed like gameplay-based games, hence why they were generous to give an entire extra year.

"Like gameplay-based games"

What does that mean? Implication that developing gameplay mechanics is somehow easier or less important than writing a good story?
Because that's absolutely untrue. Just...Yeah.

On-topic, I doubt we'll see a delay. EA gave Bioware an extra year already, continuing to push it back hurts them financially and harms their reputation. We will see a release date (Or closer release window) at E3. If we don't, then you can worry.

I did not mean it like that. I meant more as in franchises that use the same structure for the majority of its gameplay, rather than having to create a completely different one per game. It still takes a lot of time and work, but at least the basic structure is already there for them to use. 

[The Elder King]

Br3ad wrote...

Considering the game was ready in November, I doubt it. The extra year is really just here to add things like races to the game, which shouldn't take that much time either.

The game wasn't ready in November at all. 

[AtreiyaN7]

Not really, but if it is delayed, why would it be an issue for you? This isn't a Duke Nukem Forever situation where you'll wait 15 years for a piece of complete and utter crap. And who knows, if DA:I does get pushed back a bit, maybe they'll get to polish things up more.

[Fast Jimmy]

hhh89 wrote...

Br3ad wrote...

Considering the game was ready in November, I doubt it. The extra year is really just here to add things like races to the game, which shouldn't take that much time either.

The game wasn't ready in November at all. 

Agreed. Do people not see the dev tweets talking about how they are still writing companion dialogue? Or creating new environments? Or new cinematic scenes?

The pre-alpha copy allows playing the main story from start to finish, but it doesn't mean it was a FINISHED main story. Or that it was anywhere near ready to be seen by anyone but people who work in game development. 

[The Evil Chris]

hhh89 wrote...

Br3ad wrote...

Considering the game was ready in November, I doubt it. The extra year is really just here to add things like races to the game, which shouldn't take that much time either.

The game wasn't ready in November at all. 

Don't mistake a "playable build" for a game being ready. I played many a playable build of BioWare's games that were no where near the final product that was released in stores. I don't know the level of completedness that the November build had, it could have been mostly finsihed, it could have been still quite rough.

Back in my day, Dev teams worked extra hard to get a build ready for November/December to allow others in the studio (people not on the dev team of that particular game) to play the game over the Christmas break so they could give feedback once everyone returned. Very often the main story and writing was in place along with a lot of the animations, environments, etc, but things such as cutscenes, music, VO, sub-plots, final GUI, etc were still not done.

Think of it this way, financially, if a game is done, you release it. As a studio, you bring in profits from game sales, you start to work on DLC (if it is planned and I think we know that is likely) to make more money in the future, and Devs who aren't needed on the project anymore move onto a new project to start halping that game (like the next Mass Effect).

That the studio had a solid playable build in November is a very good sign. Just don't think the game is sitting on a shelf someplace waiting till the fall rolls around for release.

Modifié par The Evil Chris, 24 février 2014 - 06:49 .

[Spectre slayer]

It's still on track for a release window of fall- autumn according to Laidlaw, the reason we haven't seen any recent gameplay is due to the fact they had to rebuild the gameplay due engine changes and the reason why they haven't revealed the companions is partially due to them just finishing writing them.

Mike Laidlaw
@Mike_Laidlaw
@OneJamies Sometime in fall/autumn.
12:21 a.m. Sun, Feb 16

User:
Developing the game simultaneously on all platforms or developed the game only on 1 platform and then do a port on the other?

Mike Laidlaw ‏@Mike_Laidlaw:
Simultaneously on all. Constant builds.

User:
Hello I has a question, too how much percent is ready Dragon Age inquisition in the today's topical state ???

Mike Laidlaw ‏@Mike_Laidlaw:
Couldn't say. Too many moving pieces. It's on track, though

[Bekkael]

I don't believe it will be pushed back again. I think we will be happily playing DAI by the end of this year, and I can't wait!

[Shadow Fox]

Nope

[Drone223]

No it won't, it will be released between September and November this year. 

[KC_Prototype]

Mike Laidlaw already said they are on track for a Fall 2014 release, no need to worry. Besides, I was just die waiting for DA:I another year.