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[Stabby McGoodstab]

What are the odds of a sale on Bioware Points or the DLC itself in the near future?

[Sanunes]

I really don't think it will happen, I also don't think its something that they don't want to do, but how Origin itself works.  What I would hope is that the DLC for Mass Effect is converted to using cash instead of BioWare points and then I think there would be a good chance of it going on sale. I think that is more to do with EA then BioWare, but I could be wrong.

[Truffle]

I saw the points go on sale one time two years ago on Origin.

 

I think that is more to do with EA then BioWare, but I could be wrong.

 

As easy as it is to point the finger at EA for everything, I do think it's up to BioWare. I see The Sims titles on Origin go on sale all the time. BioWare Points? Nuh uh. They can't honestly expect me to pay full price for DLC when verybody can pick up ME and DA for cheap these days.

[Sanunes]

I saw the points go on sale one time two years ago on Origin.

 

 

 

 

As easy as it is to point the finger at EA for everything, I do think it's up to BioWare. I see The Sims titles on Origin go on sale all the time. BioWare Points? Nuh uh. They can't honestly expect me to pay full price for DLC when verybody can pick up ME and DA for cheap these days.

 

I am only suggesting its EA's decision because Origin is their software.  I have seen the points on sale in the past (before Mass Effect 3's launch), but not since then. I have also seen Mass Effect DLC on sale on the 360 and PS3, so I really don't know why.

[Stabby McGoodstab]

I am only suggesting its EA's decision because Origin is their software.  I have seen the points on sale in the past (before Mass Effect 3's launch), but not since then. I have also seen Mass Effect DLC on sale on the 360 and PS3, so I really don't know why.

 

I don't believe it's EA. Origin had a sale not long ago, on Valentine's Day I think - 50% off. This discount was storewide except for two things: brand new releases and BioWare Points. I'm pretty sure any distribution and sale of those points is up to BioWare.

 

Regardless, even if it's entirely up to EA, BioWare would certainly be capable of making the request and working with EA on it.

[chris2365]

I don't believe it's EA. Origin had a sale not long ago, on Valentine's Day I think - 50% off. This discount was storewide except for two things: brand new releases and BioWare Points. I'm pretty sure any distribution and sale of those points is up to BioWare.

 

Regardless, even if it's entirely up to EA, BioWare would certainly be capable of making the request and working with EA on it.

 

I get the feeling that EA doesn't even remember that Bioware Points even exist. In that case, it wouldn't actually be their fault, though they should be asking themeselves where all the extra profit is coming from.

 

The only recent thing on Bioware Points that I did see was on Amazon over the holidays. ME2 bundled with 2400 Bioware Points that cost as much as it would all be separately, but with a code you could get for 5$ cheaper.

 

Not exactly a sale.

[Stabby McGoodstab]

I get the feeling that EA doesn't even remember that Bioware Points even exist. In that case, it wouldn't actually be their fault, though they should be asking themeselves where all the extra profit is coming from.

 

The only recent thing on Bioware Points that I did see was on Amazon over the holidays. ME2 bundled with 2400 Bioware Points that cost as much as it would all be separately, but with a code you could get for 5$ cheaper.

 

Not exactly a sale.

 

I heard of the Amazon sale, but only after it was too late.

 

I don't think it's EA all the same. They currently have the ME3 Digital Deluxe upgrade (From Ashes + N7 weapons) on sale for $5. However, From Ashes alone is still 800 points / $10.

[MegaIllusiveMan]

Well, there was this time that Bioware gave 1200 points (20 codes or so per image. Total were 60 IIRC) on Facebook...

 

Not Fair, though, 'cause the Codes were reclaimed very very fast
 

[Lord Ivica]

Well, today on the EU playstation store started not only big game sale, but also every DLC for those games.

And, believe it or not, they are Dead Space series, Mass Effect series, Crysis, etc... All EA.

 

So, PS3 users can get sale for every DLC, but PC users are discriminated again.

[chris2365]

Well, here's the answer we've all been waiting for. I contacted EA on their general help line concerning Bioware Points on PC, and the answer I got was a bit nonsensical and off topic:

 

(Censored)

Thanks for contacting EA Customer Experience, my name is (Censored). How may I assist you today?

 

you

Hello (Censored). I just had had a quick question regarding Bioware Points. Bioware Points are the currency that PC players buy from Origin in order to purchase Mass Effect 3 DLC. I was wondering why these Bioware Points never go on sale. The same DLC has been on sale many times on the Xbox 360 and the PS3, but never on PC. Why is that so?

 

(Censored)

Because the in game currency is like the real time money of Origin with this you can access and you can unlock in game bonuses with it and because there are more players that are using PC than PlayStation and Xbox.

 

you

Thank you for your answer. Though Mass Effect 3 is actually more popular on Xbox 360 than PC, I am still confused about your answer. I do not see how the amount of players on a particular console changes who gets to get to have sales over the other. The PS3 is running a sale in Europe right now on all Mass Effect 3 DLC, and the consoles have been getting these kinds of sales since Mass Effect 3 launched almost 2 years ago. Why hasn't PC gotten an equal treatment with consoles?

 

(Censored)

Because of the controls and the features of PC imagine that PC players can also connect to PlayStation and Xbox and knowing that consoles do not have a mouse and a keyboard so it will be hard to play first person shooters and if you have a PC you can multiple games that needs to have bioware points. To shorten the explanation it's also for equality for the good of all the players.

 

you

I think I understand. Thank you for your time

 

(Censored)

Your most welcome! No worries i'm here to help you out i'm better than Batman but please do not include the money part.

 

you

Thanks again. I will be disconnecting now

 

(Due to the new rules, I think I had to censor the name of the guy I was talking too)

 

Make of it what you will. I think I've given up hope for Bioware Points sales for good

[Stabby McGoodstab]

That explanation makes little sense and seems a bit all over the place.

 

First, PC is more common. Then PC players can use a Playstation and Xbox too (wat?). Then mouse and keyboards give an advantage (ME3 multiplayer is platform specific anyway). Then equality for some reason.

 

[chris2365]

That explanation makes little sense and seems a bit all over the place.

 

First, PC is more common. Then PC players can use a Playstation and Xbox too (wat?). Then mouse and keyboards give an advantage (ME3 multiplayer is platform specific anyway). Then equality for some reason.

 

 

It sounds a bit like they have pre-determined answers and they just swap out the names according. Could be the poor guy didn't even know what Bioware Points were, since it seems utterly invisible in EA's eyes.

[Stabby McGoodstab]

I think if we try to bring this to the attention of some Bioware devs, they would probably be able to give us some info and set things in motion for an eventual sale. 

 

I'd like it if they just got rid of the Points system alltogether and just give it a cash price on Origin.

 

Regardless, I'd probably buy $100 or more worth of points if there was a sale. I already own all the DLC for all the Mass Effect games on my Xbox, but I'm about to retire the old box. I bought new copies on the PC but I can't exactly pay full price for DLC I (kind of) already own.

[Sweetz]

It sounds a bit like they have pre-determined answers and they just swap out the names according. Could be the poor guy didn't even know what Bioware Points were, since it seems utterly invisible in EA's eyes.

Yeah I'm not sure what you expected to get from there.  EA's support (like other big game companies) is handled by outsourced phone centers in India by people who get 1 day of training before being sat down with a headset and a terminal running a barely useful support Q&A tree. They can tell you to update your drivers and restart your PC - and that's roughly the extent of their "knowledge". You're being quite optimistic to believe that they'd be able to answer a question about corporate decisions.

 

Given that EA is more than likely a disorganized hydra where different parts of the company probably don't even know who they have to talk to to get things done in another (if they're like every other stereotypical large US corporation) I think the most likely explanation is simply that the points are forgotten about.  It's not an active choice, so much as bloated corporate oversight.  Folks at Bioware might be able to do something about that, but they probably stopped probably caring about fans getting to see their work as soon as the two creators of the company did the same when they cashed out.

[Morocius]

Seems to me that they do not realise how many people want to buy their DLC, just not for the full price. As in (without being disrespectfull) why pay $15 for an hour long DLC for a game that is several years old. Besides it adds up quickly if you want to buy all the DLC from both the Dragon Age and Mass Effect franchise.

[crashsuit]

If they had a half-off sale on points, I'd pick up all ME1/2/3 DLC I don't already own.

[Maz-D]

If they had a half-off sale on points, I'd pick up all ME1/2/3 DLC I don't already own.

 

I would as well. I've been waiting for a PC DLC sale for years.

[PnXMarcin1PL]

Those points should be on sale couple of times already. Right now those DLC's considering ME2 prices are too high and thus we are honest people and want to buy the stuff, not steal like some others would do and got away with it just fine.

So what do we get in exchange for honesty? Too high prices for old stuff like it's brand new. BioWare marketing specialists should really consider points sale like 30-50% off the regular price for 1600 points.

That's just my opinion though.

[EmbitteredOne]

As of this post, it's been nearly a year since the Citadel DLC was released, and nearly two years since ME3.  I'll try to be as brief as I can, but will likely fail (miserably) and along the way become somewhat (possibly very) incoherent, offensive and/or off-topic:

 

I picked up a used copy ME1 on eBay back around fall 2008, totally oblivious of any hype about the game.  Minor irrating gaffes aside, after playing through it the first time I was totally blown away, and left me wanting more.  No problem, had Dragon Age: Origins to keep me occupied Bioware-wise in the meantime...

 

After hearing about ME2, I gleefully pre-order my Collector's edition at Gamestop, waited several hours on a cold (well, for Florida, anyway) January night waiting for midnight.  After picking up my copy, I eagerly dig in...several days later, I finish my initial playthrough.  Again, there were a few minor issues here and there to nitpick, but my expectations of the game were fully met, and in many cases during my playthrough, even exceeded.  I also purchased most of the DLC, aside from the appearance packs and Genesis (and had no qualms about paying full price for them either, at the time...).

 

Around late 2010-2011 I start hearing more and more hype about ME3, to the point that I pre-order the Collector's Edition in July.  Flash-forward a few months and I start hearing ominous things about the ending, finally culminating in seeing the leaked ending videos on Youtube.  Still, I was willing to give Bioware the benefit of the doubt, and decided not to pass judgement until I finished my initial playthrough.  I picked up my copy of ME3 on 3/6/12, and finished the game three days later. 

 

Let me just say, upon finishing the game, I had a strong urge to place the game DVDs back into their steelbox (along with ME1 and ME2), take a trip to my local shooting range, and engage in extended ballistics testing to see how well the boxes and their contents could withstand the impacts of multiple .22LR, 9mm, .40SW, .45ACP, .357 Magnum, 5.56x45mm, 7.62x39mm and .308 Winchester rounds as well as 12 gauge shells, for scientifically curious as well as cathartic purposes.

 

Fortunately (for the games), I refrained from such actions and instead gave away my collection of Mass Effect games, as well my old Origin account to a good friend of mine (although I questioned myself at the time as to whether a good friend would've done such a thing...) several days after finshing ME3.  I also took the opportunity to purge whatever thoughts/feelings I had for the ME franchise, and by extension, Bioware in general from my PC as well as my cranium (or so I thought...).

 

Flash-forward (again) to December 2012, around Steam Holiday sale time.  After blowing through several hundred dollars on games, many which to this day I still have yet to play (as is sadly the fate of many of the products I purchase from Steam), I noticed I had two new gifts from the friend I gave my Mass Effect trilogy to...which happened to be ME1 and ME2.  To this day, I'm unsure whether he gifted me those games as gratitude or retribution for me giving him ME1-3, or as some kind of sick joke.

 

But anyway, being the completist I am, for some reason I felt compelled to get ME3 again (but no way in hell at full price).  I check Origin's website, notice they have ME3 Digital Deluxe Edition for $20, make a new Origin account, and several minutes later I find myself in possession of all three Mass Effect games once again, and all is well (as can be)...

 

Around February 2013 I found myself back in the Mass Effect saddle again, playing through 1 and 2 over a week's time before finally getting to 3, this time with the EC installed.  Thanks to the EC, I only found myself greatly disappointed with the ending, instead of wishing to take my frustrations out on the game with great vengeance and furious anger (which was impossible now anyway due to the medium these games were now on, and I have no interest in riddling my desktop PC full of bullet holes...).  Even then, again being the insufferable completist that I am, I would like to fill in the spaces that Bioware left in ME3 with the DLC they produced for it;  Citadel, Leviathan, hell, even Omega and the weapon packs.

 

Now we're in March of 2014.  As of this post I've seen at least one DLC sale for ME3 for the 360, and I also believe there's one that's currently ongoing for the PS3 since the release of the Citadel DLC back in March of '13.  Oh, and it's apparently been over two years since there was ANY DLC/BW point sale for the PC. When I check Bioware's ME3 DLC site, I see Omega and Citadel going for 1200 BW points each.  Leviathan?  800 points.  Exactly the same as last year.  Again, I'd like to get all three, but for $45, EA/Bioware can proceed to attempt to perform an act that's physiologically impossible for humans to perform on themselves, while on horseback.

 

I'm not quite sure if it's due to some kind of bureaucratic oversight on the part of EA/Bioware or a (not-so) thinly-veiled middle finger (or two) aimed at the PC gaming crowd.  Or perhaps a little (or a lot) of both.  Or perhaps something else entirely. But in any event, a DLC/BW point sale would go a long way towards redeeming themselves, at least to this particular PC gamer anyways (and possibly others, I suspect).

 

 

 

 

 

 

[chris2365]

@EmbitteredOne

 

The worst part is that, according to most fans, the DLC seems to make the game as a whole a lot better, especially the Citadel DLC. The Bioware Points have probably been overlocked.

 

(As to your ending issues, since you are on PC, have you ever seen the Mass Effect Happy Ending Mod? It's a mod specifically for the ending that gets rid of Starchild, Shepard survives and reunites with Normandy's crew, etc. It's very well made and includes brand new videos, variations with EMS, and it even comes with an installer)

[PnXMarcin1PL]

If you guys want to buy BioWare 1600 points cheap I know great website. Posting the address would be against forum rules, so PM me for the site address.

This online store cooperates with EA and Steam so it's all legal. I know because I've just boiught 6400 points for 40€. Thanks to this I've got all ME2 and ME3 DLC's + 1 Mark of The Assasin DLC

EDIT: Okay I don't know why people say it's illegal. The store cooperates with Steam and EA and all keys they sell are 100% legal. You simply buy the thing and redeem it. Note, all keys that are sold in the store are valid and redeemable in Europe.

[EmbitteredOne]

@EmbitteredOne

 

The worst part is that, according to most fans, the DLC seems to make the game as a whole a lot better, especially the Citadel DLC. The Bioware Points have probably been overlocked.

 

(As to your ending issues, since you are on PC, have you ever seen the Mass Effect Happy Ending Mod? It's a mod specifically for the ending that gets rid of Starchild, Shepard survives and reunites with Normandy's crew, etc. It's very well made and includes brand new videos, variations with EMS, and it even comes with an installer)

I'm well aware as to the existence of MEHEM, and would be open to trying it out. In addition (in my opinion), while I still find the EC endings sub-par at best, at least they're tolerable, instead of execrable as they were in the non-EC versions.

 

However, until/unless EA/Bioware addresses the issue regarding sale prices on DLC/Bioware points for the PC in a satisfactory manner, I won't touch ME3 with a 10 meter pole until PC customers can enjoy the available DLC at discounted prices as Xbox and PS customers have been able to.

[Melra]

Paying 12-20 euros for 2 year old DLCs is just rubbish, there needs to be a sale.

[Stabby McGoodstab]

And for 12-20 euros, you can get the whole trilogy when its on sale. In terms of game for your money...