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[Behindyounow]

Care to explain why its ignorant?



At the moment you seem to be going "I disagree so that means its wrong."

[Mystranna Kelteel]

Because there is absolutely nothing in Hale's performance that indicates she's "trying to sound like a man".



Sounds like a woman 100% to me.

[lokiarchetype]

Mystranna Kelteel wrote...

lokiarchetype wrote...
If that's true you must be new to the internet.

...and society.

Also it's kinda funny, because one can interpret what you said to mean that it's ignorant to think a woman can sound authoritative without sounding manly.

Context and hyperbole.

Well it was either that or you were refering to him calling her voice butch.  Which isn't so much ignorant as it is his own perception of how she sounded, so I don't think that context is much better.

Do you just disapprove of the word usage?  Is "To me, her voice sounded on the deeper end of the female voice spectrum" better?

[hawat333]

Willowhugger wrote...

It's mostly a backlash against the fact that there's been almost no coverage of the female Shepard option. Everyone tries to tout Miss Hale's voice acting, often at the expense of Mark. They gave very different Shepards, so some people honestly prefer her.

In my case, I prefer Mark for Shepard but I think Miss Hale has better range over all.

This.

[Behindyounow]

Then why is her voice more gruff than any other woman in the game?

[ganeysgod99]

Those that don't like Mark Meer...your all haters. True there has been very little or mo coverage on femsheps but here the point the game comes out Monday at midnight stop complaining there's no point unless it makes you feel better to hate then that's just sad

[Revan312]

@Behindyou

Because she's the hardened commander of the game? She's not supposed to be a princess...

But really, WHO CARES... this topic has been done to death, I've seen this horse beaten to what can only be recognized as a red smear on the ground...

Modifié par Revan312, 21 janvier 2010 - 04:53 .

[Mystranna Kelteel]

Behindyounow wrote...

Then why is her voice more gruff than any other woman in the game?

LMAO

Is this supposed to be evidence to your point? Different women have different voices and speak with different inflections. A gruff woman is automatically trying to sound like a man? Yeah, that's ignorance.

[Mystranna Kelteel]

lokiarchetype wrote...
Well it was either that or you were refering to him calling her voice butch.  Which isn't so much ignorant as it is his own perception of how she sounded, so I don't think that context is much better.

Do you just disapprove of the word usage?  Is "To me, her voice sounded on the deeper end of the female voice spectrum" better?

My accusations were referring to his implications that Hale was trying to sound like a man. And he proved those implications were indeed what he meant in his followups.

Modifié par Mystranna Kelteel, 21 janvier 2010 - 04:58 .

[Mystranna Kelteel]

double

Modifié par Mystranna Kelteel, 21 janvier 2010 - 04:57 .

[lokiarchetype]

Revan312 wrote...

@Behindyou

Because she's the hardened commander of the game? She's not supposed to be a princess...

But really, WHO CARES... this topic has been done to death, I've seen this horse beaten to what can only be recognized as a red smear on the ground...

To be fair, this topic is a symptom, not a cause. 
It's asking why there is Mark Meer hate, which would make the threads with Mark Meer hate the source of the issue.  As such, those are the threads that are causing the continued defilement of the corpse, maybe you should speak to them.

[cteve]

Never liked Hale at all. I mean she's a pro, that's certain thing. But I just don't find her voice really appealing or interesting at least. Moreover, femShep sounds too masculine, like a lesbian (no offence!). Meer is my choice, yeah.

[Behindyounow]

She's ridiculously gruff compared to other women in the game.



Ashley doesn't have a gruff voice, and she still sounds authoritive.

[Mystranna Kelteel]

cteve wrote...
femShep sounds too masculine, like a lesbian (no offence!).

What the hell? What does "a lesbian" sound like? Lesbians sound masculine now? You people are so bizarre...

[Cypher0020]

I prefer Hale's VA.... but Mark's VA in 2 sounded much better!



So what to do if you want to play maleshep.... but can't stand the acting in the first game?



I've yet to complete a single run as a guy.....

[jlb524]

All I have to say is...Meer definitely got a whole lot better in ME2 (from what I've heard so far).



God only knows how awesome Hale will sound in ME2, since she's supposedly gotten better as well.

[Behindyounow]

Mystranna Kelteel wrote...


What the hell? What does "a lesbian" sound like? Lesbians sound masculine now? You people are so bizarre...

The stereotypical 'butch' lesbians you see in things like the Simpsons and Family Guy. They may not a be true representation of lesbians, but thats what I thought of when I heard femshep's voice.

Modifié par Behindyounow, 21 janvier 2010 - 05:02 .

[FlintlockJazz]

Mystranna Kelteel wrote...

cteve wrote...
femShep sounds too masculine, like a lesbian (no offence!).

What the hell? What does "a lesbian" sound like? Lesbians sound masculine now? You people are so bizarre...

A lesbian sounds as melodic as the wind, as deep as water, and has the accent of a baby's giggle.  Obviously.

[Revan312]

All I know is there will be no consensus. People will like or dislike who they want and the more anyone tries to convince them otherwise the more they polarize and hate even more, it's psychology.



Basically, I just want these threads to stop popping up, people go on and on about the same things over and over. Meer was unemotional, Hale was butch sounding, Meer was wooden, Hale overacted, BAH...



Like I said in another one of the 500 VO threads earlier, I imagine both Hale and Meer would tell everyone to just stfu already.

[CHULK88]

I personally don't dislike the female Shepard's performance but I will probably never use one. I always try and make the characters I create in video games look like myself. So I'm thinking it's mostly men/boys who will be buying the game so that may be why the female Shepard is being overlooked.

[Valmy]

Behindyounow wrote...

Mystranna Kelteel wrote...


What the hell? What does "a lesbian" sound like? Lesbians sound masculine now? You people are so bizarre...

The stereotypical 'butch' lesbians you see in things like the Simpsons and Family Guy. They may not a be true representation of lesbians, but thats what I thought of when I heard femshep's voice.

 Well...um...she sounds nothing like a butch lesbian.  You are entitled to your opinion but...yeah I don't see that at all.  Jennifer Hale is about as feminine a voice as you can find.  Do women run around squeaking and giggling like little girls where you live or something?

[Behindyounow]

Valmy wrote...

 Well...um...she sounds nothing like a butch lesbian.  You are entitled to your opinion but...yeah I don't see that at all.  Jennifer Hale is about as feminine a voice as you can find.  Do women run around squeaking and giggling like little girls where you live or something?

Listen to Hale's work in KOTOR, maybe Brutal Legend if you have it. Theres a lot of difference.

[lokiarchetype]

Mystranna Kelteel wrote...

lokiarchetype wrote...
Well it was either that or you were refering to him calling her voice butch.  Which isn't so much ignorant as it is his own perception of how she sounded, so I don't think that context is much better.

Do you just disapprove of the word usage?  Is "To me, her voice sounded on the deeper end of the female voice spectrum" better?

My accusations were referring to his implications that Hale was trying to sound like a man. And he proved those implications were indeed what he meant in his followups.

To play Devil's Advocate, from the whole one(!) clip I've heard of her, her Shepard voice does sound shades deeper than her natural speaking voice and deeper is generally considered a masculine vocal trait, as guys' voices are deeper than girls'. 

I wouldn't be surprised if she thought a military woman should have a deeper voice than her own, only she is qualified to speak of her intentions though.  'Trying to sound like a man' sounds like an exaggeration, but apparently that's a common thing to do.  I've been trying to discourage it, personally.

It seems they're trying to say that the voice Hale chose to represent the character seemed artificial/forced and didn't conform to their expectations.

Modifié par lokiarchetype, 21 janvier 2010 - 05:13 .

[Beerfish]

Both have done tremendous jobs if you ask me. When I played either sex of sheppard in the 1st ME I was perfectly happy with both voices.

[Stanley Woo]

There is already a discussion of maleShep voice acting in this thread. Please use that thread to discuss. Thank you.



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