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[A Crusty Knight Of Colour]

You guys all need to calm down. This feature makes sure that we don't make those without enough likes feel bad. I am in full support of everyone not enjoying themselves as much as they want to. 

I would like but I'm all tapped out.

[Animositisomina]

You guys all need to calm down. This feature makes sure that we don't make those without enough likes feel bad. I am in full support of everyone not enjoying themselves as much as they want to. 

 

I would like this, but, well... apparently I'm only allowed to be negative for the next 24 hours.

[TuringPoint]

You guys all need to calm down. This feature makes sure that we don't make those without enough likes feel bad. I am in full support of everyone not enjoying themselves as much as they want to. 

To the contrary, it means you can't just like everyone's post, you have to be selective.  By definition, more people will be left out because of this feature than without it.

 

Unless you put a limit on the quota a certain person can receive.

 

Such is what you get when posting drunk.

[Jesse Reid]

We didn't think you guys would be this nice to each other...

I'll talk to Jessica about bumping up the limit.

[Eirik Hafskjold]

I liked that, so I'll like that

[Fredward]

What's the limit exactly? I think it's clever, stops people from doing indulging in too much circle-jerking. In theory at least.

[Jesse Reid]

Currently it is 10.

[SwobyJ]

Currently it is 10.

 

Limit is fine, I know why it's there.

 

But 10 is WAY too low. That is all.

[Ninja Stan]

Let's keep the off-topic chatter to a minimum, please. Thank you.

[Neoleviathan]

I guess it's good we have a limit, I'd been fighting an odd urge to retroactively like all the old posts and comments I enjoyed reading.

[DAYtheELF]

We didn't think you guys would be this nice to each other...

 

Aw, that's kind of sad. 

 

Is there a rationale for having a limit?  It seems a little weird, and it definitely made me when I hit mine.

[SwobyJ]

Aw, that's kind of sad. 

 

Is there a rationale for having a limit?  It seems a little weird, and it definitely made me when I hit mine.

 

Farming for Likes, obviously.

[LPPrince]

I don't think there should be such a low limit. Can someone at Bioware explain to me why the limit is where it is? 10 is it?

 

I would prefer something around 50 or 100. I said for ages that the BSN needed more positivity, and here we are at a new point in the life of Bioware's forums, but a limit so low for sharing positivity seems a bit counter to making this place happier. I actually felt bad that I hit the limit.

[SwobyJ]

I don't think there should be such a low limit. Can someone at Bioware explain to me why the limit is where it is? 10 is it?

 

I would prefer something around 50 or 100. I said for ages that the BSN needed more positivity, and here we are at a new point in the life of Bioware's forums, but a limit so low for sharing positivity seems a bit counter to making this place happier. I actually felt bad that I hit the limit.

 

This thread is funny, sure, but Likes =/= Positivity.

 

Have some experience on other forums with this and you'll see (EDIT: Not assuming you haven't, but maybe you haven't seen it go wrong). It more has to do with popularity, or clique elitist-standing pumping up.

 

Post numbers are a more safe form of this, but if you let Likes get out of hand, it gets stupid very quickly.

 

But yes, 10 is too low, but I'd say 50 max.

[Animositisomina]

This thread is funny, sure, but Likes =/= Positivity.

 

Have some experience on other forums with this and you'll see (EDIT: Not assuming you haven't, but maybe you haven't seen it go wrong). It more has to do with popularity, or clique elitist-standing pumping up.

 

Post numbers are a more safe form of this, but if you let Likes get out of hand, it gets stupid very quickly.

 

But yes, 10 is too low, but I'd say 50 max.

 

Something like what the Steam Users' Forums uses might work well here. It limits you to giving +rep to a single person only once per X amount of +rep you've given out total. For example, if I give you +1 Like, then I can't give you more until I've given, say, ten other people a +1 Like.

[spirosz]

 

Post numbers are a more safe form of this, but if you let Likes get out of hand, it gets stupid very quickly.

 

 

 

Yeah, I've seen that happen on old forums I used to visit. 

[addiction21]

This thread is funny, sure, but Likes =/= Positivity.

 

Have some experience on other forums with this and you'll see (EDIT: Not assuming you haven't, but maybe you haven't seen it go wrong). It more has to do with popularity, or clique elitist-standing pumping up.

 

Post numbers are a more safe form of this, but if you let Likes get out of hand, it gets stupid very quickly.

 

But yes, 10 is too low, but I'd say 50 max.

 

10 is fine. I don't even like that its around but keep it low so it can actually mean something. Not to mention there are so many people coming thru these boards that 10 likes a day translates to thousands if not tens of thousands a day.

[LPPrince]

I have for a long time suggested that Bioware forums have a "Good Member" system, to basically let people know that a particular user is helpful, positive, and ready to aid someone in need of assistance, whether that be with the forum itself or with a particular game. No extra privileges, just the distinction so folks know who to come to when they need it. It doesn't seem to be implemented at the moment, but if it ever does, and if Bioware feels these members should get a little teeny weeny extra bit for their kindness, perhaps these "Good Members" get no-limit or at least a higher limit for giving positive votes under the assumption that these "Good Members" being what they are wouldn't abuse it?

[spirosz]

I have for a long time suggested that Bioware forums have a "Good Member" system, to basically let people know that a particular user is helpful, positive, and ready to aid someone in need of assistance, whether that be with the forum itself or with a particular game. No extra privileges, just the distinction so folks know who to come to when they need it. It doesn't seem to be implemented at the moment, but if it ever does, and if Bioware feels these members should get a little teeny weeny extra bit for their kindness, perhaps these "Good Members" get no-limit or at least a higher limit for giving positive votes under the assumption that these "Good Members" being what they are wouldn't abuse it?

 

Couldn't that be mixed up with just being "popular" though?  I've seen a ton of good members/slash good posts get overlooked because of certain users having their own little thing going on.  

[LPPrince]

Couldn't that be mixed up with just being "popular" though?  I've seen a ton of good members/slash good posts get overlooked because of certain users having their own little thing going on.  

 

Nah. I'd see it as being a Bioware-controlled thing. You know how moderators are selected due to their past behavior, contributions, etc etc? Same thing, except Good Members wouldn't have any access to the functionality that Moderators do. You know, instead of the term "Good", replace that with "Helpful". That seems like a better representation of the intent.

[spirosz]

What would be considered helpful?  

[LPPrince]

What would be considered helpful?  

 

Lets go back in time. Pre-Mass Effect 2. Javierabegazo and I took it upon ourselves to help anyone who asked us for anything regarding ME2. We weren't the only ones, either. Quite a few people came to us and every day or few days there was something someone needed to know or needed to find that we did. Javi was best with the numbers and such, I was with trivia. His would be most useful, so it would've been cool if at least he was given a "Helpful Member" tag back then, so that people would know to ask him for help if they had a question.

 

Then there's Bobobo. Bo created the journal entry on how to create custom avvies back when we couldn't do it ourselves. Bo is quite the character, so I don't know if he'd get the tag, but so many people wondered about how to upload avvies that his journal could help. He could've been given a "Helpful Member" tag, or at least his journal could've been posted somewhere officially so that people knew how to do the uploads.

 

My point is, sometimes community mods and developers won't be around to help forumites out, so we have to help each other. Some of us jump at the opportunity to help others, and some of us well, don't. It would be nice I think to give these kind members known for their hospitality and eagerness to aid someone a tag so that people in need of help know who to come to.

 

Its the difference between asking someone for help and getting trolled incessantly for it, and actually getting some help.

[SwobyJ]

I have for a long time suggested that Bioware forums have a "Good Member" system, to basically let people know that a particular user is helpful, positive, and ready to aid someone in need of assistance, whether that be with the forum itself or with a particular game. No extra privileges, just the distinction so folks know who to come to when they need it. It doesn't seem to be implemented at the moment, but if it ever does, and if Bioware feels these members should get a little teeny weeny extra bit for their kindness, perhaps these "Good Members" get no-limit or at least a higher limit for giving positive votes under the assumption that these "Good Members" being what they are wouldn't abuse it?

 

I'm completely against that and it defeats the purpose. Classes of posters in a free forum *suck*.

[spirosz]

Lets go back in time. Pre-Mass Effect 2. Javierabegazo and I took it upon ourselves to help anyone who asked us for anything regarding ME2. We weren't the only ones, either. Quite a few people came to us and every day or few days there was something someone needed to know or needed to find that we did. Javi was best with the numbers and such, I was with trivia. His would be most useful, so it would've been cool if at least he was given a "Helpful Member" tag back then, so that people would know to ask him for help if they had a question.

 

Then there's Bobobo. Bo created the journal entry on how to create custom avvies back when we couldn't do it ourselves. Bo is quite the character, so I don't know if he'd get the tag, but so many people wondered about how to upload avvies that his journal could help. He could've been given a "Helpful Member" tag, or at least his journal could've been posted somewhere officially so that people knew how to do the uploads.

 

My point is, sometimes community mods and developers won't be around to help forumites out, so we have to help each other. Some of us jump at the opportunity to help others, and some of us well, don't. It would be nice I think to give these kind members known for their hospitality and eagerness to aid someone a tag so that people in need of help know who to come to.

 

Its the difference between asking someone for help and getting trolled incessantly for it, and actually getting some help.

 

I'm still getting the vibe that "popularity" will play a factor and all the "helpful" title will just make you want to "stand out" over the few.  I understand what you're getting at, but I don't see it being useful.  A lot of people tend to help other users and I don't think advocating them as "more" helpful than others is ideal for the site.  All I see it is as "standing out" in the crowd.   If you really want to help build the site to a great extent, then why not ask to become a moderator?  

[LPPrince]

Thats just it- the forum's got a new set up for moderating. Asking to be a mod is the LAST thing this forum needs. Tons of people do that already, or come in thinking thats going to work.

 

The mod selection process is vigorous and extensive, many forumites are ineligible. And a moderator isn't expected to know every little thing about everything.

 

The moderator title is given to someone who has a specific task- that task being to keep the forum clean and operable, spam free, etc etc

 

"Helpful Members" are not given a task- they are recognized as people who already go out of their way for others, and are given the recognition so others know they can trust them with any questions pertaining to whatever.

 

I don't see it as a different "class" of poster at all, or a way to "stand out". I've seen this used in another forum and it works absolutely without flaw. Someone has a question, they ask and the helpful member will assist because they choose to. If they can't help, they'll direct folks to whomever can actually help them. No one throws a fuss, no one gets mad, its all cheery.

 

Its done wonders for keeping that other forum clear of a million threads with repetitive queries and has helped contribute however slightly to keeping things positive there. 

 

Then again, the Bioware forum is a different community. If the majority of this community would see it as a slight against the rest of them, then obviously its not gonna work. If people are more willing to be optimistic and positive, it can work spectacularly.

 

For example, Arcadian Legend. Fantastic guy who helped upload my avatars for me back on the BSN. Other folks came to him with avatar upload requests, and he did his part for them, which took A LOT of trust. "Helpful Member" right there. /would recommend

 

I don't see why people would feel bad or lesser about that, but of course I just have my own perspective, meaning I'm inherently optimistically biased.