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[Kabraxal]

Aww. I miss Awesome Friday's. I got the beta code(s), but I'm in Washington without my Xbox One for the next few weeks so it'll be over by the time I get home. =(

At least it comes August... and Gears 4 eventually.  Might be able to have an Awesome Friday at some point

 

Also... Sony is apparently building a list of cult titles to put out for possible crowdfunding.  We might actually get to see the Legend of Dragoon, a new CHrono, and who knows what else.  It could be amazing.

 

And just thought of Alpha Protocol.......... I would love for someone to swoop in and give that game a sequel.  

[MegWithAMouth]

I'm all for Shenmue 3 and any other game that people are interested in getting made, but this crowd funding stuff is just getting shadier and shadier and it sets a dangerous precedent in the gaming industry.

Although the main problem isn't with Kickstarter or whatever other crowfunding resource. It's that Shenmue 3 is already being funded by Sony. The kickstarter is to "gauge interest". It's a AAA title, being backed and funded by a multi-billion dollar corporation out of the gate. It's like Microsoft crowd funding the next Banjo, or Battletoads.

Even worse, Sony had this guy come out on stage and pan handle funds. Sony has backed far riskier projects in the past and could easily have given him the funding and resources he needed outright, but instead they had this proven game developer get on stage and ask the public for money to make his game. It's kind of insulting/degrading to the creator as well as the people who really want this game and now feel obligated to spend money on it before knowing anything about it or its development.

But this isn't a Sony or Microsoft thing. This is a video game industry thing. I remember not too long ago people were boycotting pre-orders because of broken games. Now we are pre-development pre-ordering. I have no problem with funding indie devs, but funding a billion dollar corporation is a joke.

[AccursedOdin]

I understand, and yeah...it's pretty shady. This way they get all the benefits of Shenmue 3 actually does well, as opposed to it's predecessors, and also takes some of the sting away if the game bombs. It's not right, like...at all, but from a business perspective I get it. But I agree that this whole kickstarting trend is getting worse and worse. It's only a matter of time before Activision starts trying crowdfund CoD.

 

FInally, time for a fun fact! The first Shenmue game cost $70,000,000 dollars to make. In order for it to make a profit, everyone who owned a dreamcast would have had to buy the game twice.

[MegWithAMouth]

I understand, and yeah...it's pretty shady. This way they get all the benefits of Shenmue 3 actually does well, as opposed to it's predecessors, and also takes some of the sting away if the game bombs. It's not right, like...at all, but from a business perspective I get it. But I agree that this whole kickstarting trend is getting worse and worse. It's only a matter of time before Activision starts trying crowdfund CoD.

FInally, time for a fun fact! The first Shenmue game cost $70,000,000 dollars to make. In order for it to make a profit, everyone who owned a dreamcast would have had to buy the game twice.

Yeah, I get why Sony did it. But what's best for them isn't always (aka rarely) best for their consumers.

And I had heard that the first Shenmue cost a ridiculous amount of money to make, but I had no idea it included that many zeros. Jesus. I wonder how much that is by today's standards with inflation and all that? I also wonder how that ever happened in the first place since clearly they couldn't have expected a return on that investment.

From a player standpoint, was it worth it? I never played those games, but I read a quite informative reddit post about it the other day that made it seem like the graphics were a lot better than others of that time and that it was basically that generation's GTA V in a lot of ways.

[AccursedOdin]

Yeah, I get why Sony did it. But what's best for them isn't always (aka rarely) best for their consumers.

And I had heard that the first Shenmue cost a ridiculous amount of money to make, but I had no idea it included that many zeros. Jesus. I wonder how much that is by today's standards with inflation and all that? I also wonder how that ever happened in the first place since clearly they couldn't have expected a return on that investment.

From a player standpoint, was it worth it? I never played those games, but I read a quite informative reddit post about it the other day that made it seem like the graphics were a lot better than others of that time and that it was basically that generation's GTA V in a lot of ways.

Oh, I'm not saying that getting us to fund this game is in our best interest, it was definitely scummy of them to have their consumers "convince" them to fund Shenmue 3. Just stating that I'm sure someone at Sony thought that using Kickstarter for this was the best idea since sliced bread.

 

But anyway...it's story time!

 

At the time, the graphics were amazing, everything was super detailed and for the most part, extremely interactive... I remember blowing all my cash on capsule machines trying to get a Sonic toy. Also, every character in the game had a schedule (waaaay before Bethesda was hyping Oblivion and being all like "Look at all this innovation!" Our people sleep and eat!") and were fully voiced, which was a huge thing back then. Anyway, the game had a pretty interesting set up and had you doing a lot of detective work to catch your father's murderer. Sadly, 14 year old Dave only wanted to do the fighting parts of the game, which were few and far between. Also, I'm pretty sure that Shenmue is solely responsible for the existence of QTE's, so Yu Suzuki is pretty much reserved a seat in hell for that. Basically, there was a lot to like, but a lot of tedium involved.

[MegWithAMouth]

Oh, I'm not saying that getting us to fund this game is in our best interest, it was definitely scummy of them to have their consumers "convince" them to fund Shenmue 3. Just stating that I'm sure someone at Sony thought that using Kickstarter for this was the best idea since sliced bread.

But anyway...it's story time!

At the time, the graphics were amazing, everything was super detailed and for the most part, extremely interactive... I remember blowing all my cash on capsule machines trying to get a Sonic toy. Also, every character in the game had a schedule (waaaay before Bethesda was hyping Oblivion and being all like "Look at all this innovation!" Our people sleep and eat!") and were fully voiced, which was a huge thing back then. Anyway, the game had a pretty interesting set up and had you doing a lot of detective work to catch your father's murderer. Sadly, 14 year old Dave only wanted to do the fighting parts of the game, which were few and far between. Also, I'm pretty sure that Shenmue is solely responsible for the existence of QTE's, so Yu Suzuki is pretty much reserved a seat in hell for that. Basically, there was a lot to like, but a lot of tedium involved.

I actually like QTEs some of the time... =\

But it sounds like Shenmue 3 might be able to come up with some awesome and innovative stuff if it follows suit of the prior games. They certainly seem to have the budget for it. Hopefully it doesn't take them 10 years to release though.

[AccursedOdin]

I agree that sometimes, QTE's are great. But more often than not, in my experience, they can be more of an annoyance, like if they show up during a cutscene that you want to enjoy and they catch you unaware or are used arbitrarily.

 

And yeah, Shenmue 3 should be good, I just hope they have a "Previously on Shenmue" option, so I can get caught up...'cause I never beat the other two games.

[MegWithAMouth]

That's a good point. They can be super frustrating in those instances.

And yeah, I think they'd almost have to include a "previously on" section since a lot of gamers won't remember everything or, like me, won't have played the games at all.

Also, yay for everyone in America now being able to get married to whoever they choose (icky incestuous and polyamorous "relationships" aside).

[redBadger14]

Anybody else playing Arkham Knight right now? Because it's freaking awesome.

[AccursedOdin]

I have Arkham Knight, but I just beat The Witcher 2 and am starting The Witcher 3, so AK is gonna have to wait a while...

[Kabraxal]

Having to take breaks back to Witcher with AK, but it is fun.  Just some of those riddler missions and side missions are frustrating and I need to cool off

 

Harley rules though.

 

Also, GO USA!  TO THE FINALS!  For those who don't follow football, let alone the women's world cup

[MegWithAMouth]

I'm actually trying this new thing where I wait until I've finished one game before I buy another. I'm hoping my bank account will thank me.

So yeah. I don't have AK yet, but I'm really looking forward to it once I finish the Witcher.

[AccursedOdin]

That awkward moment when you're sailing around Skellige and have AC 4 sea shanties playing through the Spotify app....

 

/random

[redBadger14]

Lol I couldn't do that to myself, the Skellige theme is too awesome. It's peaceful, scary, and beautiful all at the same time.

[MegWithAMouth]

Lol I couldn't do that to myself, the Skellige theme is too awesome. It's peaceful, scary, and beautiful all at the same time.

My favorite music from The Witcher has got to be the theme for the Witches of the Wilds. It's so haunting and fits perfectly with that story arc.

[AccursedOdin]

@Badger:It is good...really good, as is all the music in the game, but I had black flag flashbacks when I saw a whale. Also, I was sailing around gathering the Ursine Armor pieces, which took no small amount of time.

 

@Meg: I personally love all the combat themes in Velen...something about them gets me amped.

[MegWithAMouth]

The ursine armor is very nice once you upgrade it. The wolf armor is cool too. It looks a lot like Eskel's armor so if you like that it might be worth finding.

And I agree. The combat music, and the music overall, is pretty great. Although that song the bands play in the towns and stuff really gets stuck in my head.

[AccursedOdin]

The mastercraft ursine armor is probably the coolest looking armor in the game, in my opinion, though I was really hoping the griffin armor would eventually look cool. Alas, this was not the case, so I had to abandon my ridiculously fun sign build in favor of a melee build.

 

Also, I just finished the game...so many damned feels.

[MegWithAMouth]

Yeah, I hated every iteration of the griffin armor. I liked the Feline armor, but my favorite was the Ursine and Wolf. Ursine worked well with my Geralt though since I had mainly leveled up my melee stats and barely touched anything else. That whirlwind Attack he does is just too bad*ss not to use imo.

And I know, right? I finally beat it a week or so ago. I loved Ciri so much. Half of the time Geralt was interacting with her I was hoping a 'hug' prompt would pop up, but sadly it never did.

[AccursedOdin]

It's funny that Geralt was the one that almost brought me to tears at the end, at the tower scene. He was the last person I'd expect to bring forth the feels....And now I want to play the game again. Damn it.

[MegWithAMouth]

For real! The look on his face was so heartbreaking. I really want to read more of the books and see more of his and Ciri's relationship now.

On an unrelated note, I've been playing Arkham Knight. It's fun, but not... new. Like at all. If that makes sense. Plus, I just found out who the Arkham Knight was and now I'm super pissed off. Not because it was unbelievable or anything like that, but because it's literally a character that already exists in the Batman universe and Rocksteady kind of just ripped off their story and put fresh paint on it. And all that after making such a big deal about getting to create a brand new character (Arkham Knight) in the DC universe. So freaking disappointing and predictable.

Not to mention, the more I play the more the game pisses me off. More often than not, I'm the type who loves "bad" games because I can overlook or am just oblivious to plot holes or bad gameplay, but I really can't with AK. There are so many plot holes and things done in AK that make NO sense, but are clearly done for the sake of gameplay. Like, hey, Batman is going to run people over with a tank and shoot rockets at vehicles and people, but magically it never kills them because Batman doesn't kill? What the actual f*ck? And they shove the batmobile down your throat at every other turn, which would be fine if driving and fighting with it was super tight, but it's not. It's fine enough, but in stressful Batmobile-involved scenarios (which basically means every other mission) it can get super frustrating super quickly.

I'm so frustrated/mad at the game that I'm talking in one big run on sentence so I'll stop. I loved AA and AC and even liked Origins more than most, but this one is just so flawed in so many ways. I really wouldn't recommend picking it up until it goes on sale. /2cents

[AccursedOdin]

I haven't played the game yet, but from what I've seen from my brother playing it, alot of your complaints, especially with the Batmobile were concerns that I had. Especially since they seemed to turn The Riddler into a racetrack owner (Are you smart enough to complete all my devious....racing...challenges. Which require more reflexes than brainpower? Did I think this through?)

 

Also. I knew who the Arkham Knight from the outset. But that's not something I can judge the game on.

[MegWithAMouth]

Yeah, I don't get why The Riddler is making linear racetracks now. Or why some of his "riddles" around town are literally just to break things. It's dumb.

And if people didn't know anything about the person under the Arkham Knight persona then I'm sure the reveal is awesome and stuff, but for anyone even a little familiar with that character, it's a huge letdown. I mean, literally my first guess as to who the AK could be was who it actually turns out to be, but I immediately wrote it off because it seemed obvious and overdone. I don't know. Maybe I just had my standards too high, but I feel like they could have done more with that character.

I also think the game would have benefited from the "less is more" sort of thinking. Instead of trying to make a giant open world city with all of the villains, go back to the Arkham Asylum formula. IMO Batman is at his best when he's out thinking and out maneuvering his opponents, not when he's driving a tank and destroying half of Gotham.

[redBadger14]

I'm not having issues with AK I'm loving it actually. I do agree tho that the Batmobile seems forced all too often and the whole "running people over and not killing them" thing seems silly, though I'm more or less coming to terms with it because it would mean absolutely no criminals would roam on the street, which for me would be a larger travesty.

I do really like the puzzles involving the Batmobile, like remote controlling it and having it rappel from anchor points.

As for The Witcher, what ending did you guys get? I'm curious. I think I got the "best" ending according to most. I really liked it and it was a huge tear-jerker. Also I think if you want a hybrid sign/melee build the Wolf Set seems the best in the game for that. I hate how you can't get the starting version of it until you get to Kaer Morhen tho.

And I've been doing a Death March run. It's real tough but fun so far.

[MegWithAMouth]

*spoilers for The Witcher 3*
The first time I got the ending where Ciri becomes Empress and Geralt and Yenn retire together. In my official head canon and my second ending though, Ciri becomes a Witcher and Geralt and Yenn and her are together. I know that's the more selfish option because Ciri would be a good ruler, but whatevs. I only care about Geralt and his family and friends.