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Thanks for sharing the fruit of your speculation - really interesting.

I always imagined that we'd meet Rhys & Evangeline as part of the Mage group when dealing with the Mage-Templar kerfuffle - like if you wanted to find a compromise solution to end it all (big assumption there that compromise will be an option), they'd be the ones you'd work with as opposed to Adrian and the like.

That said I kind of like the idea of having companions that are an established couple (rather than them hooking up once it's clear you have no interest in them - eg. Fenris/Isabela, Tali/Garrus).

:) I had been speculating things since the GameInformer videos came out. It's sort of freeing to finally share it with other people!

 

I'm almost certain we'll meet them in the game anyways, even if they are not companions. It depends, I think, with how many ways the game allows us to deal with the Mage-Templar war. It'd be nice if we can side with mage rebels, side with templars, or take a third option. But if there's only one way to do it, yes, it'd be a compromise.

 

I like having companions that share a sort of bond even prior to joining the party as well. Lovers, married couple, siblings, parent/child, etc...



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I think we will get a romanceable female mage as well (Vivienne probably). Don't think Varric is a candidate, because of his endless dedication to Bianca. But if so, BioWare would also (likely) have to make him bisexual and I would hate to see him get that treatment just to please some of the fans.



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I think we will get a romanceable female mage as well (Vivienne probably). Don't think Varric is a candidate, because of his endless dedication to Bianca. But if so, BioWare would also (likely) have to make him bisexual and I would hate to see him get that treatment just to please some of the fans.

 

Yep. Unless one of the other mages is female as well.

 

Varric is also very keen on saying that he likes curvy dwarven girls. Even if they make him an opposite-only option, it'd still be retconning.



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Yay thanks!!!

 

 

Okay, from GameInformer video, Combat of Dragon Age:

 

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It says "Adamant, Pursue ... Commander Clavel (or something)", and under the big "Gameplay", it seems to read "Warden Marksman".

 

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Pretty sure it says "Pursue Warden-Commander Clavel"



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--SNIPPED AWESOME COMPANION SPECULATIONS--

 

 

 

Ok, tried to trim that down so it won't take up too much space.  I need to learn how to chop up quotes in this new system, 'cause I kind of want to address your post point-by-point, hahaha.

 

First, it's TOTALLY freeing to finally get all of this speculation off of my chest, too!  Glad to meet a kindred spirit.  Now, onto the meat of this post...

 

So, David Gaider and his two companions, two romances.  I've certainly given this conundrum a bit of thought, and I don't really have a definite answer.  All I know is he's for sure writing Cassandra, and a "kind of companion that he's always wanted to write."  That could, of course, refer to Cass, but perhaps not.  I still think Cole has the best chance of being the Asunder character, although I'd love if it were Evangeline I think she and Rhyse are a pair that depend too heavily on Wynne definitely being alive (which she might not be in some players' continuities).  Cole is a character that can stand relatively independently of any canon out there as we enter DA:I.  However, as you noted, that leaves us with a second romance, since Gaider said Cole definitely would not be romanceable if he were a follower (good move, DG, good move).  The only three viable alternatives, in my eyes, are that David's second romance is a Traynor/Cortez style romance, that DG is writing an entire third follower (unlikely), OR that he took over romance duties for Jennifer Hepler's companion.

 

As for Cullen and the need for a Templar perspective, I think Cass already kind of fills that role.  Maybe it's not a perfect fit, like Cullen would be, but she's essentially coming from the same perspective; she's just more elite.  I have a feeling Cullen will be a significant NPC, though, and that concept art you pointed out certainly solidifies that for me.

 

To go on a slight tangent for a second, I'd like to address something about Cullen.  A lot of people assume that he shows up in that war-room concept art, but I don't think it is.  Here's a post I made a week or so ago that didn't get a lot of attention (at least, not for the point I was trying to make):

 

"I'm going to attempt to make the argument that the guy that we see in the War Room concept art that we all thought was Cullen is actually someone else, and we might just know who.

My rationale is basically that the War Room concept art is probably really old at this point, and some of the characters featured in it may have gone through some major changes to their appearance.

For instance, this guy:
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Has likely become this guy:
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Both are elves, and both are wearing the same outfit, so chances are good they're the same person despite the other changes.

We know this second version is more recent because of Mark Darrah's update, which featured him:
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So, what about this guy, our supposed-Cullen?
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I think the chances are good that this is actually an early draft of our Ex-Grey Warden character!  
Check out the similarity in their clothes (blue shirt with a big leather strap and shoulder armor):

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So yeah, that's my hypothesis.  I know it's pretty much pure speculation, but I feel like Cullen would probably be wearing his Templar armor in any concept art featuring him (such as that found in the old survey). "

 

Another thing I've picked up just from reading the forums for a while is that apparently Bioware is not big on giving three mage followers, since that would allow for an all-Mage party with a mage player character.  That's why I went with the 4:3:2 ratio.  I think four makes sense for the warrior class, since historically (DA:O) they made up the largest proportion of followers.  IF Mr. Moustache turns out to be a follower, AND he's still got that ballin' trident, then I think he'll have to be a warrior with a non-standard moveset.  Hard to tell at this point, that trident really could be a mage's staff and he'll end up some sort of warrior-mage hybrid, which would ALSO be awesome!

 

As far as romances are concerned, I'm kind of amping myself up to have maybe six romances.  I know that sounds crazy, but ME2 had six romances with ten followers!  With the DLC companion, six would be at least within the realm of possibility, although I'm certainly being optimistic.  My current picks would be:
Cass, Viv, Sera, Mr. Moustache, Ex-Warden, and Iron Bull (please, please, that romance would be incredible).  That's definitely all speculation, though, and doesn't include the possibility of Traynor/Cortez type romances.

 

I would comment on your Writer-Companion matching, but we're pretty much on the same page there (yes, I've definitely been trying to track that).
All I really have is that Patrick tweeted that his follower gets along with Sheryl's, but not (one of) Mary's.  So this could mean Sheryl's only writing one.
Here's what I have:
DG (Cole?/Cass), JH (?), LK (Sera), MK (Var/Viv), SF (ScGirl?), PW (Iron Bull or Trident Guy?), SC (Grey Warden/Bald Elf?)

 

Meaningless speculation for the most part, hahaha, but it's a lot of fun.  Enjoying this thread a lot, guys.



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Cassandra as the Templar view is possible, provided they really pull it off that way.  However, she has so far been presented more as a Chantry/Divine character than a Templar.

 

The issue with using her instead of Cullen would be you get what we had in Alistaire.  The "He never took the vows, he isn't really a templar and isn't a good example of what templars are really like."

 

Sorry, I just think it is time we had a real deal templar in the group. If cassandra feels that role, fine, I just don't think so far she has been presented that way or filling that role.



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Again i go back to my Demand that we get Lambert as a companion or at least temp companion like Anderson in ME 3.

 

-_- The Lord Seeker is a boss after all.



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Again i go back to my Demand that we get Lambert as a companion or at least temp companion like Anderson in ME 3.
 
-_- The Lord Seeker is a boss after all.


Didn't Cole kill him?

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Didn't Cole kill him?

 

Bah!

 

No!

 

-_- Its not confirmed for him to be deceased, only presumed missing and deceased.

 

Besides all he has to do is recite a sentence and cole is banished back to the fade again like before.

 

It's not really even improbable for him to be alive if not well.

 

:mellow:  Honestly people.



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So, David Gaider and his two companions, two romances. The only three viable alternatives, in my eyes, are that David's second romance is a Traynor/Cortez style romance, that DG is writing an entire third follower (unlikely), OR that he took over romance duties for Jennifer Hepler's companion.

 

As for Cullen and the need for a Templar perspective, I think Cass already kind of fills that role.  I have a feeling Cullen will be a significant NPC, though, and that concept art you pointed out certainly solidifies that for me.

 

Another thing I've picked up just from reading the forums for a while is that apparently Bioware is not big on giving three mage followers, since that would allow for an all-Mage party with a mage player character. 

 

As far as romances are concerned, I'm kind of amping myself up to have maybe six romances.  I know that sounds crazy, but ME2 had six romances with ten followers!  With the DLC companion, six would be at least within the realm of possibility, although I'm certainly being optimistic.  My current picks would be: Cass, Viv, Sera, Mr. Moustache, Ex-Warden, and Iron Bull (please, please, that romance would be incredible).  That's definitely all speculation, though, and doesn't include the possibility of Traynor/Cortez type romances.

 

I removed a bit of your post to shorten the quote a bit.

 

Does the person writing the companion always write his/her romance as well? Is it common for another writer to handle the romance aspect?

 

Hmm, Cassandra does sort of fill the Templar perspective but not completely. I would be fine with it if she took that role. I would rather not have Cullen as a companion (he's nice and all, but a bit boring) so if we're going to get an actual templar I would rather have Evangeline than Cullen or (best of all) a completely new character.

 

Not big on all-mage party? Why? Do they consider it over-powered or is it for some other reason?

 

About romances, I'm not sure if I remember this correctly, but didn't Gaider say there was going to be only four romances (two male and two women)? He said it sometime last year so it might have changed but I think he wrote that... I would love for it to be six romances though, options are always good. None of the previous DA romances have been to my liking. Well, I liked them sort of but I wanted to really like the romance options. I just hope we all get equal amounts of love interests. It was kind of a let down when my straight fem!Shep was left with so few choices in ME3 (Kaidan could be dead, Jacob had moved on, Garrus had to be romanced in ME2, Thane died, etc) and the gay/lesbian!Sheps didn't have it any better while straight Sheploo had so many.



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Bah!

No!

-_- Its not confirmed for him to be deceased, only presumed missing and deceased.

Besides all he has to do is recite a sentence and cole is banished back to the fade again like before.

It's not really even improbable for him to be alive if not well.

:mellow: Honestly people.

I don't think he's surely dead, but ending the book like that , with Cole saying that same thing he said at his victims is a obvious hint at his fate.

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I don't think he's surely dead, but ending the book like that , with Cole saying that same thing he said at his victims is a obvious hint at his fate.

 

And i think him dispelling cole back to the Fade while that mook is busy being an egoistical maniac isn't implausible at all.

 

How long do you think it would take a person to recite the litany? ten, twenty thirty seconds? (I am honestly asking given DAO didn't give an accurate time of reciting it considering the usage of it was, condensed to clicking an item tab, with no reciting happening at all)

 

You think he couldn't overpower that stick for that long? 



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I removed a bit of your post to shorten the quote a bit.

 

Do the person writing the companion always write his/her romance as well? Is it common for another writer to handle the romance aspect?

 

Hmm, Cassandra does sort of fill the Templar perspective but not completely. I would be fine with it if she took that role. I would rather not have Cullen as a companion (he's nice and all, but a bit boring) so if we're going to get an actual templar I would rather have Evangeline than Cullen or (best of all) a completely new character.

 

Not big on all-mage party? Why? Do they consider it over-powered or is it for some other reason?

 

About romances, I'm not sure if I remember this correctly, but didn't Gaider say there was going to be only four romances (two male and two women)? He said it sometime last year so it might have changed but I think he wrote that... I would love for it to be six romances though, options are always good. None of the previous DA romances have been to my liking. Well, I liked them sort of but I wanted to really like the romance options. I just hope we all get equal amounts of love interests. It was kind of a let down when my straight fem!Shep was left with so few choices in ME3 (Kaidan could be dead, Jacob had moved on, Garrus had to be romanced in ME2, Thane died, etc) and the gay/lesbian!Sheps didn't have it any better while straight Sheploo had so many.

I think Gaider said that they will always try to give players an equal amount of LI choices: ideally he would like to have 2 straight, 2 bisexual, and 2 gay/lesbian choices so that everyone has an equal amount of possible LIs. However if it's not possibile for them to go that route, they will use the "all LIs available to everyone" so that again every player has an equal amount of choices. That's a sensible approach, if you ask me, and one I hope they never let go. :)


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I think Gaider said that they will always try to give players an equal amount of LI choices: ideally he would like to have 2 straight, 2 bisexual, and 2 gay/lesbian choices so that everyone has an equal amount of possible LIs. However if it's not possibile for them to go that route, they will use the "all LIs available to everyone" so that again every player has an equal amount of choices. That's a sensible approach, if you ask me, and one I hope they never let go. :)

 

i have a feeling if EA had the resources of the EU behind it would still claim "resource shortages" for content being cut.

 

I mean is having the wealthiest publishing company in the entire industry not enough to get a game complete with most of its features?

 

._.



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And i think him dispelling cole back to the Fade while that mook is busy being an egoistical maniac isn't implausible at all.
 
How long do you think it would take a person to recite the litany? ten, twenty thirty seconds? (I am honestly asking given DAO didn't give an accurate time of reciting it considering the usage of it was, condensed to clicking an item tab, with no reciting happening at all)
 
You think he couldn't overpower that stick for that long?

As I said, I don't think he's surely dead. I said that based on the way the book ended, it's more likely that he's dead.
The stick might not block Lambert for long, but blood magic could. Cole realized what he is, and we don't know how much powerful he can be.

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i have a feeling if EA had the resources of the EU behind it would still claim "resource shortages" for content being cut.
 
I mean is having the wealthiest publishing company in the entire industry not enough to get a game complete with most of its features?
 
._.

We don't know how much budget EA gave Bioware for DAI, and the game is larger and has more features then the previous ones.

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i have a feeling if EA had the resources of the EU behind it would still claim "resource shortages" for content being cut.

 

I mean is having the wealthiest publishing company in the entire industry not enough to get a game complete with most of its features?

 

._.

I think it's also a matter of time constraints, the more they put in the game the more time it takes, the more money is needed to pay salaries, and so on. A company like EA waits only so much before wanting to start gaining money out of a project and stopping paying for its development. I'm actually surprised Bioware got a whole extra year to polish things up.



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As I said, I don't think he's surely dead. I said that based on the way the book ended, it's more likely that he's dead.
The stick might not block Lambert for long, but blood magic could. Cole realized what he is, and we don't know how much powerful he can be.

 

I guess we will find out if Lambert shows up in game if he survived his encounter with cole or not.

 

I am leaning towards he did though.



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I think it's also a matter of time constraints, the more they put in the game the more time it takes, the more money is needed to pay salaries, and so on. A company like EA waits only so much before wanting to start gaining money out of a project and stopping paying for its development. I'm actually surprised Bioware got a whole extra year to polish things up.

 

I am certain that DA 2's sales had nothing to do with them being more understanding this time around.

 

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I guess we will find out if Lambert shows up in game if he survived his encounter with cole or not.

 

I am leaning towards he did though.

The littany didn't dispell Cole, it just removed the invisibility illusion/mind control that made him invisible to others.  Lambert beating the snot out of him is what caused him to disappear.



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Are you sure DG is only writing two companions? Because it's odd that he'd say he wrote two romances (meaning that it was probably for companions he wrote), which would mean he admits that any character that would be revealed to be written by him would be romanceable.

 

With that in thought, if Cole is in the game, then he wouldn't be written by DG, even though it was a character from his books. Since DG  has said that Cole is like a kid, he implied that it would be impossible for him to be a romance. So I'm not so sure about that. Unless he only wrote the romances for other companions originally written by others (could be the case). Anyway, we'll see. I just hope we get the Grey Warden guy as a romance, hahah >.>



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The littany didn't dispell Cole, it just removed the invisibility illusion/mind control that made him invisible to others.  Lambert beating the snot out of him is what caused him to disappear.

 

Mmm a brief rereading of 383-387 seems to confirm that it wasn't as i recalled. But it also put another thought together in its place, considering Cole recoiled and was just about seeming floored by having the Litany used on him, it wasn't just "Poof" Your visible, he had what seemed to be nearly a seizure.

 

So yes, he didn't dissipate from the Litany, but He recoiled from the effects of it though, Its obvious that reciting it isn't a pleasant sensation for a demon.

 

If nothing else it would give Lambert time to get his sword while he is flopping around like a fish.



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Pretty sure it says "Pursue Warden-Commander Clavel"

 

When you zoom in on that part, it kind of looks like the word ends with "es". Maybe I'm wrong though.



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When you zoom in on that part, it kind of looks like the word ends with "es". Maybe I'm wrong though.

Its possible but unlikely that Warden Commander Clave is the bearded grey warden we keep seeing.  He may be a main character but not necessarily a companion. 

 

I know it tend to go in contrast of everything else we have seen



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Character records are returning!? I missed that part about DAO. It felt nice knowing how many things my characters and their party have killed.