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Shin Megami Tensei: Persona Discussion Thread (Persona 5 Gameplay is out! Dance All Night releases June 26th in Japan)


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Here he is -- Everybody's favorite character in any video game of all time forever

 



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Oh, right, and here's a trailer for Golden Arena

 



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Here he is -- Everybody's favorite character in any video game of all time forever

 

 

Dark times ahead of us, the herald of awful and despair is here..



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Have to ask: what's up with the hate behind Ken? is it because of his age, his character, or is it because of what happened to you know who?

 

And one again I'm reminded that I really need to beat P3FES one of these days...I don't even remember where I left off.

 

I wasn't sure either when I picked it up again for myself. It's a really long, albeit brilliant, game - I might be shy of 90 hours now. Most of the SMT games I've played and finished have clocked in at around that staple 40 hour mark, so.



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Have to ask: what's up with the hate behind Ken? is it because of his age, his character, or is it because of what happened to you know who?

I think I can provide my reasoning for why I dislike him. First of all -- He's, as you said a kid, who's been mixed in with a bunch of teenagers. Aside from his little spat with Shinji, he has no other effect on the plot or the group. He doesn't go to the same school, he doesn't go on trips with them, he cannot empathize with teen issues and what they are going through. He's just "there." And even without the voice, he's annoying as hell. There's litterally no chemistry between him or any of the other characters. Unlike Nanako in Persona 4, he has no place in the story. He offers little to nothing in terms of gameplay, all of his abilities can either be covered up by the rest of the party and done better or they are useless. He's just happy to be there, really. In fact, much like Marie from Golden; They are barely involved in what's going on, they have nothing in common with the main characters, and when they finally do serve some purpose, then it's merely to be a plot device to cover up some conspicous holes that didn't really needed to be filled anyway.
I don't know if you've played Golden, so I'll cover the rest in spoiler tags.
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I wasn't sure either when I picked it up again for myself. It's a really long, albeit brilliant, game - I might be shy of 90 hours now. Most of the SMT games I've played and finished have clocked in at around that staple 40 hour mark, so.

It's well worth the hours.

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Is it weird that I don't have a particularly strong reaction to Ken showing up?



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I think a lot of people are generally apathetic -- All I know is that he better not be the last character to be revealed because, if Adachi is confirmed as well then I can safely get over the fact that I have to play as Ken during the story.

Luckily, the character page on the website hints there's more to come.

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It's one of the options.

Ah, I never picked that or the ghost as I enjoyed finding the guys and watching hilarity ensue for the next few days.



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Have to ask: what's up with the hate behind Ken? is it because of his age, his character, or is it because of what happened to you know who?

 

 

 

There's alot of reasons I dislike the character. First he has only one purpose, a purpose that is resolved in one month, once that purpose is done, he has NO point in the game. Koros purpose was to show that persona users where not just humans(all persona users till P3 where humans) so Koro had a purpose to show how vast persona was, and since he was a dog he didn't need a super complex arc to make him needed. So after October 4th, Ken is now a gloried paperweight character who does NOTHING. Everyones arc is still on going but Ken? He's done, finished.

 

Second, Ken is a ten year old kid, joining a group that is filled with 16/17 year old. Am I the only one that has a massive issue with this? This is not Final Fantasy or your typical JRPG. These teens/young adults do things and say things that are NOT for a kid his age and while Ken can try to act like a mature adult, he simply is not, ffs he has not even gone through puberty and still has his baby voice. It's also not believable that a group of a16/17 year olds that are in a official school group would even have a ten year old with them and before someone mentions Aigis, Aigis was made to combat shadows and has the body of a teenage woman so she is in fact very believable to join the group.

 

Third, October 4th. Yup you knew this was coming. This event only fuels my dislike for the character, but not just because of what he wants to do, but because he outright left the group two people short, AT A MOON OPERATION. What the bloody ****!? Ken knows every well moon operations are very important and vital and anything can happen(no moon operation has always gone according to plan after all, sure they where all successful but something always happen) so for him to pull that stunt is just extremely stupid

 

Fourth, his social link and how awkward, creepy and horrifying it is, even if you don't romance him. The lines are creepy, Ken assumes you want him, makes creepy ass advances ect. It's overall a horrifying experience and to make it worse, his social link is unnecessary complex wto the point he's the only s-link I use a guide for so I don't click a flag by accident because Atlus thought it would be funny to put flags with dialog that did not sound flirty with a ten year old kid, as a 16/17 year old female. That's pedophilia people.

 

Overall Ken is one of the worst aspects of Persona 3 along with Tartarus.



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#teamken



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I'm just very passive about Ken I neither like nor dislike him. But I am interested to see what is done with him in ultimax.



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I'm just very passive about Ken I neither like nor dislike him. But I am interested to see what is done with him in ultimax.

They are trying too hard to make him likeable, like Chris said. This is pretty much another MGS4 Raidan.



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Made him handsome, gave him cool new powers, gave him a dog as a companion. Yeah I can see some comparisons there.



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I'm just very passive about Ken I neither like nor dislike him. But I am interested to see what is done with him in ultimax.

He's become a bishonen as opposed to shota with the most awkward pants ever. It's the Hideo Kojima method of character development you see.

 

Disregarding him for a moment.

 

The story section of the official site has been updated with a P3 episode section, so I'm gonna assume the two left will be for Sho and another character, or alternatively, some sort of epilogue.

 

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Made him handsome...

Uh...what? Dude looks the same though.



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Uh...what? Dude looks the same though.

 

Are you talking about Ken or Raiden?



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Still hope for the guy who did nothing wrong

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Adachi baby!



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Are you talking about Ken or Raiden?

Ken



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Well i'm just repeating most of the comments i've seen on the interwebs.



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Ken

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There's noticeable differences, you can tell it's still Ken just like you could tell Raidan was Raidan in MGS4.



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Dat neck


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Here's a TOTALLY ACCURATE translation of the Ken trailer

 


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There is much fourth wall breaking going on.



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I'm surprised there aren't any Koromaru doge memes out there.

 

ken wow

much edgy

so likable

such appearance