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[TheChris92]

I can get an impression of what your issue with the intro is based on all of your colorful descriptions of it, though. The comparison was just to assess how accurate that impression was and adjust my perception as needed. It didn't work because you weren't familiar with the subject of the comparison, but that's fine.

Then I apologize for not making the impression clearer and for wasting your time. Have a nice day wherever you are on this globe at the moment

[Straw Nihilist]

I'm probably biased because Kou and Daisuke made it in there and they were one of my favourite Social links. That and I did my first playthrough of persona 4 golden a few weeks ago so that song brought back all the feels. Despite Naoto being best waifu, I hope Yu gets with Marie in this. The whole Hollow forest bit was hella emotional when the MC's romantically involved with her. 

 

Oh god... looks like Marie's going to suffer from tiny head syndrome. 

[TheChris92]

But enough about Shadow World

Rejoice, those who are gonna get Ultimax. The game is region-free!

[Straw Nihilist]

Awesome. Side question: Is this actually the cover? https://pbs.twimg.co...A_vHE.jpg:large

[TheChris92]

Awesome. Side question: Is this actually the cover? https://pbs.twimg.co...A_vHE.jpg:large

YES! Isn't is just glamorous?!

[Straw Nihilist]

Yeah that's one way of putting it. This better have a reversible cover with Adachi in place of Yu and cabbages instead of everyone else. Speaking of, is he still going to be a free download or what? 

[TheChris92]

Yeah, he's still free for the first week -- I'm actually glad they went with the Egocentric Police Dick "even though his not really egocentric, but more along the lines of misanthropic". The whole cabbage thing is an overblown trope crafted by the net and it's not really essential to his character but it is funny, when Dojima thinks on buying him one though.

[GreyLycanTrope]

I'd say he is a bit egocentric, his main motivation for his actions past the first two girls seems to be him manipulating things because he's bored and because he can. Think it require a bit of ego to hold yourself above so many people just to toy with them. Certainly does go full on misanthropic later though.

[TheChris92]

He was always like that. I don't think it's much of an ego problem, as it is lack of empathy for anybody and not even himself -- His disposition hints more towards being apathetic, sadistic and slightly misogynistic too. He just wants the world to go away so all people can become shadows and live in blissful ignorance

[Straw Nihilist]

First week only? ****, when does it come out?

 

I dunno though, would an egocentric really be able to demean themselves as much as he did by pretending to be such an absent minded guy? Jaundiced would have been much more appropriate imo.  

[TheChris92]

Incidentally, the best word to describe Adachi is probably "ressentiment". ~ "A sense of hostility directed at that which one identifies as the cause of one's frustration, that is, an assignment of blame for one's frustration. The sense of weakness or inferiority and perhaps jealousy in the face of the "cause" generates a rejecting/justifying value system, or morality, which attacks or denies the perceived source of one's frustration."

[TheChris92]

He was always like that. I don't think it's much of an ego problem, as it is lack of empathy for anybody and not even himself -- His disposition hints more towards being apathetic, sadistic and slightly misogynistic too. He just wants the world to go away so all people can become shadows and live in blissful ignorance

Still no exact date for the West, but we assume in late September.

[Mr.House]

Shadow world is garbage, even by it self. It does not fit the game, it's not catchy and it's way too upbeat. This is not a deconstruction like PMMM, Persona 4 and Golden while upbeat at first does turn dark and very serious later, the first theme song did a great job with that. Shadow world is a joke that tarnishes that image.

 

Least the art style is amazing.

[Straw Nihilist]

This anime is going way too fast. I mean where was Yosuke's panic bladder during all this? Tsk. On the plus side  Narukami is golden in it. 

[Matieo]

Does anyone here know if the pre-order bonus tarot cards for Ultimax and Q are the same, or will they be different?

[Mr.House]

I just want the lovers and fortune tarot.

[TheChris92]

The one with Ultimax is Set #1, the one with Q is Set #2

[Milan92]

Not to be that guy or anything, Chris, but how many really bother with listening to the P4: Golden OP? Whenever I start up the game I always skip straight through it. 

 

Most people don't care how the opening song sounds and wether it truly fits or not. I respect your opinion and I do agree that it doesn't fit perfectly, but it also sounds like nitpicking, if you ask me.

[TheChris92]

Not to be that guy or anything, Chris, but how many really bother with listening to the P4: Golden OP? Whenever I start up the game I always skip straight through it. 
 
Most people don't care how the opening song sounds and wether it truly fits or not. I respect your opinion and I do agree that it doesn't fit perfectly, but it also sounds like nitpicking, if you ask me.

Lots of Persona fans do, actually -- It's a bit hypocritical to claim invalidity of the OP when you choose to engage in discussion in accordance with defending it. An opening exists to sell the game's message to the player, what it's about, it's just as important as that of any other aspect I can dare to imagine. I get you like the song, and that's okay, but trying to dismiss my opinion by saying they are worthless nitpicking is not really a sound case in its favor.

You're not really respecting my opinion, you're shitting on it and ultimately fabricating new circumstances to make look like a looney for providing criticism to something you seemingly enjoyed.

[Milan92]

Lots of Persona fans do, actually -- It's a bit hypocritical to claim invalidity of the OP when you choose to engage in discussion in accordance with defending it. An opening exists to sell the game's message to the player, what it's about, it's just as important as that of any other aspect I can dare to imagine. I get you like the song, and that's okay, but trying to dismiss my opinion by saying they are worthless nitpicking is not really a sound case in its favor.

You're not really respecting my opinion, you're shitting on it and ultimately fabricating new circumstances to make look like a looney for providing criticism to something you seemingly enjoyed.

 

No I respect your opinion, but I do think its nitpicking. I don't see how that's shitting on it.

 

If I wanted to **** on it then I would have claimed your opinion was stupid. But I don't.

[TheChris92]

No I respect your opinion, but I do think its nitpicking. I don't see how that's shitting on it.
 
If I wanted to **** on it then I would have claimed your opinion was stupid. But I don't.

Why is it nitpicking to hate an opening for a game that's supposed to reflect its content, not to mention the song, an essentially part of the exeperience -- That is to say, audio-wise and visual-wise, that's essentially just the same as shitting on it. Back up your claims with something or don't say anything at all, because it makes you to be a biased jerk. Your argument is that "lot of people don't care" -- So then, I ask, okay -- So who are these who've entrusted you to spread their opinion for them that you can dare make a statement like that then proceed to dismiss my opinion as invalid. That's where you're shitting on it.

[Mr.House]

Not to be that guy or anything, Chris, but how many really bother with listening to the P4: Golden OP? Whenever I start up the game I always skip straight through it. 

 

Most people don't care how the opening song sounds and wether it truly fits or not. I respect your opinion and I do agree that it doesn't fit perfectly, but it also sounds like nitpicking, if you ask me.

I always watch the OP  when I play Innocent Sin, Eternal Punishment , P3P and base P4s(when I played it). I always skip Goldens OP.

 

There's a reason, it's because it sucks and does not fit the game.

[TheChris92]

How about I provide something to back up my end of this discussion first.

This just one website of course, but if you want I'll gladly sample more comments from other places if that's enough to prove

that some people care and aren't amused by the opening as others might be.

[Milan92]

Why is it nitpicking to hate an opening for a game that's supposed to reflect its content, not to mention the song, an essentially part of the exeperience -- That is to say, audio-wise and visual-wise, that's essentially just the same as shitting on it. Your argument is that "lot of people don't care" -- So then, I ask, okay -- So who are these who've entrusted you to spread their opinion for them that you can dare make a statement like that then proceed to dismiss my opinion as invalid. That's where you're shitting on it.

 

Where am I saying your opinion is invalid? All I'm saying is that I personally think you're nitpicking on something.

 

Had this song taken place during a boss battle then I wouldn't have said the same thing. I personally rarely care about wether an OP fits or not, so in my eyes it seemed like nitpicking, 

 

If you view that as shittin on youre opinion and disrespecting it then thats all up to you. But I certainly didn't mean it that way. 

 

And that's also were I'm ending it because this is clearly not going anywhere and I don't care enough about this discussion to actually continue bothering with it.