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Shin Megami Tensei: Persona Discussion Thread (Persona 5 Gameplay is out! Dance All Night releases June 26th in Japan)


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#2251
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Let us be honest with ourselves, all Persona characters are pretty terrible. I can't wait for the day that the series gets a character as deep and nuanced as Lightning.

I know right?

 

Yukari? What a one dimensional ****** character with no complexities, what a disgrace. Lightning is our true savior.


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Destiny is destiny after all. /deep


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I know right?

 

Yukari? What a one dimensional ****** character with no complexities, what a disgrace. Lightning is our true savior.

 

Lightning is so good she doesn't even need emotions! I mean when do we get that gem!



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I know right?

 

Yukari? What a one dimensional ****** character with no complexities, what a disgrace. Lightning is our true savior.

 

Yukari is a stupid teenage cartoon floozy, she doesn't have emotions. Lightning has more polygons and thus, more emotions.  

 


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Yukari is a stupid teenage cartoon floozy, she doesn't have emotions. Lightning has more polygons and thus, more emotions.  

 

Everybody loves Final Fantasy! Love the hair!


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But anyway, let's end it quick and keep this thread focused on Persona.



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Persona looks like fun, shame I have no PSP to play the games (not interested in watching it via YT). 



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Persona looks like fun, shame I have no PSP to play the games (not interested in watching it via YT). 

 

It's on PS3 to download off PSN.



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Persona looks like fun, shame I have no PSP to play the games (not interested in watching it via YT). 

Well, there's always the the option of getting them through PSN on the PS3.



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Btw, I gotta say, David Cage sure looked different back in 2013.

He also never seems to show any emotions in this video, when he's speaking, perhaps this is supposed to be reflected in his games? Perhaps he quite litterally placed all his emotions inside his games, which explains the hilarious tragic scenes!



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In case you didn't know, they're playable on the PS3. You just have to download them off PSN.

 

:whistle:

 

Hair is one my favourites, Chris. Although Axel Foley definitely takes the cake. 

 

The closest character Persona has to hair is, um, no one. What a shitty, terrible series. Hopefully P5 is more emotional although it's still a friggen cartoon so guess not.

Hashino who? We should all weep that it doesn't have a visionary like David Cage at the helm. 



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The Persona games use Japanese ooga-booga-art-design, which does not make use of porygons, and thus it cannot possibly ever hope to achieve an emotionally engaging story.. with emotions. Final Fantasy has realized, that by taking the control away from the player, and do all the work for you and implementing a 10 minute cutscene every 5 steps, filled to the brim with action and fun where you as the player are not invited to the fun but instead been told to sit and watch the game have fun without you. It has achieved the principles of crafting an excellent engaging narrative, with equally excellent characters -- It does not have time to weave exposition or world building into the narrative, because it already knows what is going on and thus it doesn't see the need for why it should tell YOU about it. And unlike those avant-garde-games like Silent Hill 2, it does not need to fabricate backstory or symbolic value in the environment, to grant meaning to its plot, but instead all it really needs are arguably attractive androgynous early 20-year olds with hair that look like they've accidentally gotten their head stuck in a barrel full of a paint whom all emote through obnoxious grunts and moping gestures.

 

This is the key to Square and Cage's success and where everyone has failed.


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Aaaaanyway. 

 

To replay or not replay P4G? That is the question. Want to try a max social link run for the trophy but that's nigh impossible without a guide to work from and that just doesn't seem fun. :(



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Well, I actually did it without a guide so go me.



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The Persona games use Japanese ooga-booga-art-design, which does not make use of porygons, and thus it cannot possibly ever hope to achieve an emotionally engaging story.. with emotions. Final Fantasy has realized, that by taking the control away from the player, and do all the work for you and implementing a 10 minute cutscene every 5 steps, filled to the brim with action and fun where you as the player are not invited to the fun but instead been told to sit and watch the game have fun without you. It has achieved the principles of crafting an excellent engaging narrative, with equally excellent characters -- It does not have time to weave exposition or world building into the narrative, because it already knows what is going on and thus it doesn't see the need for why it should tell YOU about it. And unlike those avant-garde-games like Silent Hill 2, it does not need to fabricate backstory or symbolic value in the environment, to grant meaning to its plot, but instead all it really needs are arguably attractive androgynous early 20-year olds with hair that look like they've accidentally gotten their head stuck in a barrel full of a paint whom all emote through obnoxious grunts and moping gestures.

 

This is the key to Square and Cage's success and where everyone has failed.

That's...

 

That's beautiful. 

 

I can't truly grasp the meaning of your statement because it has no pictures and no polygon and thus has no emotions. But it's the closest thing to emotions without being emotions if you know what I mean? 

 

What is symbolism when you can have the characters explain everything to you in detail as you see the creases in the forehead when they frown (and they frown a lot because they're not happy, they're conflicted and full of angst and thus emotional). You're given the privilege of watching the game rather than playing it because if you're playing, you can't take the time to sit back and absorb the emotions and thus miss the true meaning of the game. 



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Well, I actually did it without a guide so go me.

No.

 

No "go" you. 

 

Feel shame, foul creature. 



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Astus, give Digital Devil Saga a roll. Excellent game within the SMT franchise. Otherwise, playing Persona 4 Golden again is not a bad thing. It's among those many games on my Top Super Star Tag Team I feel can be played again and again, but right now I'm busy buying more and more games for me to finish to consider another playthrough, heh. 



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I've been eyeing it up ever since it showed up (alongside its sequel) on the PSN. 

 

P4G works well for me though since it's on the go and I can play it on the way to and from uni and not incur as much guilt as playing on the home console, haha. 

 

I'll definitely give DDS a whirl soonish though. 



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Aaaaanyway. 

 

To replay or not replay P4G? That is the question. Want to try a max social link run for the trophy but that's nigh impossible without a guide to work from and that just doesn't seem fun. :(

Nope, you don't need a guide.



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The Persona games use Japanese ooga-booga-art-design, which does not make use of porygons, and thus it cannot possibly ever hope to achieve an emotionally engaging story.. with emotions. Final Fantasy has realized, that by taking the control away from the player, and do all the work for you and implementing a 10 minute cutscene every 5 steps, filled to the brim with action and fun where you as the player are not invited to the fun but instead been told to sit and watch the game have fun without you. It has achieved the principles of crafting an excellent engaging narrative, with equally excellent characters -- It does not have time to weave exposition or world building into the narrative, because it already knows what is going on and thus it doesn't see the need for why it should tell YOU about it. And unlike those avant-garde-games like Silent Hill 2, it does not need to fabricate backstory or symbolic value in the environment, to grant meaning to its plot, but instead all it really needs are arguably attractive androgynous early 20-year olds with hair that look like they've accidentally gotten their head stuck in a barrel full of a paint whom all emote through obnoxious grunts and moping gestures.

 

This is the key to Square and Cage's success and where everyone has failed.

Dat ooga booga style.

 

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Need to share my pain.

 

So there I am in Tarturus, making allll kiiiiinnnnddzzz of level gains.

 

And they use Mudo.

 

MUDO.

 

**** YOU MUDO.

 

Oh, it has to hit ME of all people. Everybody dodges that **** and noooo, I just HAD to get hit ><

 

*sigh*

 

I'm gonna read Berserk and try again...

 

****** mudo


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Need to share my pain.

 

So there I am in Tarturus, making allll kiiiiinnnnddzzz of level gains.

 

And they use Mudo.

 

MUDO.

 

**** YOU MUDO.

 

Oh, it has to hit ME of all people. Everybody dodges that **** and noooo, I just HAD to get hit ><

 

*sigh*

 

I'm gonna read Berserk and try again...

 

****** mudo

GG Mudo. GG Not having a Persona immune to Mudo out.



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Was it the flying books? 

 

The flying books got me a frustrating amount of times on my last run.  :sick:



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Some sort of bird.

 

Reezy, I'm still a noob at this.

 

I miss quicksave :-(

 

In BG I quick save every frickin' 2 minutes xD



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Reezy, I'm still a noob at this.

 

I miss quicksave :-(

Quick saves are for casual protagonists. You're not casual are you? Are you one those people that puts Shin Megami Tensei in front of Persona? Because that's the epitome of a casual protagonist. It's not swagged out at all.