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[The dead fish]

Well, personally I hope my inquisitor isn't too old, I like to identify with my PC. If Cass

 

Aren't we past 9:40. I thought I read somewhere that we're 10 years after the end of ][. Could be wrong though.
Well, to me, from what we've seen, Vivienne doesn't look all that old. However, as we know she almost became First Enchanter when the Circles were disbanded, she has to be around 30, I feel.

 

Acutally, I said 9:40 because that's where we stopped in dragon age asunder, the book. However I have no idea at which year DA:I will begin. So yeah, maybe you are right.

[Xilizhra]

Wait...There's some that exists the "likes" Petrice?

 

That's a thing?

To be fair, Petrice isn't worse than her qunari adversaries. The qunari just don't like having their own tactics turned against them.

[Ozzy]

I'm hoping that The Game is expanded on. I'm getting shades of Daes Dae'mar and I like it. Although, it will probably be the book's job to really go over it. 

 

Well, SW:tOR has official, in game ways of customising NPC's skin colour to your liking.  And it's not like Bioware's hasn't changed NPC appearances themselves.

 

The first is pretty disturbing. I can't recall Bioware changing the skin tone of a character though, the changes they've done are mostly due to adjustments brought on by new systems. 

[Wulfram]

Illana was First Enchanter at 22, so it is possible to rise quickly with the right connections.

 

But 30s is probably a reasonable guess for Vivienne

[Grieving Natashina]

@Kain Fair enough and sometimes I prefer it too.  I always pictured my Warden being about 12 or so years younger than me at the start of Origins (so very early 20s,) and because I could fill in her story.  

 

I suppose I enjoy playing older characters more these days, because...well, characters like Vivienne are actually close to my own age.  I don't talk down to teenagers, but it's not always fun playing a character young enough to be your kid.  

 

I wouldn't mind a heavily-involved-in-the-Game companion like Vivienne (as she may or may not be), as long as there is interesting content attached to that premise. An interesting companion quest for her, or maybe she could be useful when encountering the Game yourself.
 

I hadn't though of that, but you bring up a very valid point.  I liked your post.

[The dead fish]

There is one reason I prefer playing young characters over older ones and that is - less predetermined background. 

When you play older heroes you have a huge chunk of their past lives that hunts them and that you had no control over, and they are less your own characters. 

However if there was a solid, lengthy questionnaire during character creation about all the major points in characters life for me to fill in the gaps with their actions, and those answers would have meaning and impact the game, then I could enjoy playing older characters more. 

Well, thank you, this is what I was going to answer to Starsyn. ( I had to imagine the past of shepard, didn't like that... ) Also I like to identify with my pc. But since everyone is quite older, I suppose it will be the same for the pc, I hope not though. 

[whogotsalami]

Since the Varric interrogation took place in 9:40 it's safe to say that the beginning of the game itself will take place in 9:41, or fall of 9:40

 

And I'd agree that Vivienne is 30+. No way it'd be otherwise with her attempt to become a first enchanter

[Ozzy]

Illana was First Enchanter at 22, so it is possible to rise quickly with the right connections.

 

But 30s is probably a reasonable guess for Vivienne

 

It says that she became First Enchanter at 30. That's still pretty young though! She didn't last very long, haha. 

 

Still, it's a nice little read. I didn't play through MotA so I missed it.

[Banxey]

I liked in DAO how you'd occasionally be asked about your life, and there were multiple options. I'd like a more fleshed out version of that rather than a questionnaire. But I do like the general idea of having a past.

 

I meant to quote KainD, but apparently I failed dismally.

[KainD]

TOR is complete horseshit in general.

 

Atleast I could roleplay an actual sith from start till finish and be successful at it. Unlike Kotor ( which I still loved though ). 

[Grieving Natashina]

I didn't think ToR was a bad game.  It's still some of the most fun I've ever had in a co-op setting.  It was a terrible MMO in it's execution though; probably one of the worst MMOs I've ever played.  I think if they had left it as a single player game with up to 4 people doing co-op (and some MP functions for the pvp crowd,) it would have been great.   I agree that we don't have to worry about BioWare-Edmonton taking any cues from BioWare-Austin anytime soon.

 

Anyhow, not on topic.  So Xil and legion, what do you guys think of what we know about Vivienne?  Any opinions?

[Grieving Natashina]

It says that she became First Enchanter at 30. That's still pretty young though! She didn't last very long, haha. 

 

Still, it's a nice little read. I didn't play through MotA so I missed it.

While I think Legacy was the better DLC, you should pick up MotA.  I'm netural on Tallis (I have no strong feelings about Felicia Day,) other than her look being very uncanny valley.  However, the rest gives a nice bit of insight into Orlais, which I enjoyed.   The comments that even an aggressive Hawke can make during the party is priceless.

[Xilizhra]

Anyhow, not on topic.  So Xil and legion, what do you guys think of what we know about Vivienne?  Any opinions?

Mentioned previously:

 

"Anyway, regarding Vivienne... well, clearly my ethical code about genetics not determining allegiance means that she can't be a traitor simply for that, but I will be irked if she turns out to be Fenris with magic. Though I wish we knew more about what "pro-Circle" meant."

[Grieving Natashina]

Mentioned previously:

 

"Anyway, regarding Vivienne... well, clearly my ethical code about genetics not determining allegiance means that she can't be a traitor simply for that, but I will be irked if she turns out to be Fenris with magic. Though I wish we knew more about what "pro-Circle" meant."

 

Whoops, sorry Xil.  I overlooked that; this thread updated pretty quick over the last few minutes.  Mea culpa, good serrah.  

[The Elder King]

Atleast I could roleplay an actual sith from start till finish and be successful at it. Unlike Kotor ( which I still loved though ). 

True.

About the predecent conversations about companions using the PC, I don't particulary mind, as long as I got the option to tell them 'screw you'. I like companions that have their agenda.

@Xilixhra: I'd say Pro-Circle means that she support a Circle system, and from what it was stated in the GI, I'd say it is related to the fact that she had political power (sort of). The GI coverage stated that she'll be against anti-mage protagonists and actions, so I'd say she'll definitely not be like Fenris.

[whogotsalami]

Pro-Circle basically means upholding a status-quo from before the mage revolution imo

[Grieving Natashina]

True.

About the predecent conversations about companions using the PC, I don't particulary mind, as long as I got the option to tell them 'screw you'. I like companions that have their agenda.

@Xilixhra: I'd say Pro-Circle means that she support a Circle system, and from what it was stated in the GI, I'd say it is related to the fact that she had political power (sort of). The GI coverage stated that she'll be against anti-mage protagonists and actions, so I'd say she'll definitely not be like Fenris.

That makes a lot of sense.

 

I do find her being against fanatics an interesting and a nice change.  I do think the developers and the writers were indeed listening to the fans requesting a few less extreme characters.  FWIW, to all the devs and the writers, we thank you for that.

[Xilizhra]

Whoops, sorry Xil.  I overlooked that; this thread updated pretty quick over the last few minutes.  Mea culpa, good serrah.  

It's all right.

 

 

True.

About the predecent conversations about companions using the PC, I don't particulary mind, as long as I got the option to tell them 'screw you'. I like companions that have their agenda.

@Xilixhra: I'd say Pro-Circle means that she support a Circle system, and from what it was stated in the GI, I'd say it is related to the fact that she had political power (sort of). The GI coverage stated that she'll be against anti-mage protagonists and actions, so I'd say she'll definitely not be like Fenris.

Ah, so she's primarily an opportunist and isn't in it for philosophical reasons? Well, I can work with that well enough.

 

For those who played Starcraft, perhaps she could be my General Duke equivalent...

[KainD]

 

For those who played Starcraft, perhaps she could be my General Duke equivalent...

 

Mage Dominion? 

[Ieldra]

She is allergic to Fereldan fashions. And there's nothing she dreads getting as a Wintersend present because she arranges for those privileged enough to see her for the holidays to select gifts for her from an approved list. Also her shoes are an amazing array of gold-encrusted boots made from rare animals, and possibly the skins of one or two of her political rivals.

LOL. I like her already. Not the easiest person to get along with though, right? What would she say if being told to wear practical clothing on campaign?

[Ozzy]

Vivienne's loyal but more moderate approach does give me shades of Wynne. Ultimately, Wynne forsook the ties to the Chantry for family but was otherwise a staunch Circle supporter. Due to the nature of the conflict though, I imagine Vivienne will be more hard line. She'd probably slap Anders if she had the chance, haha. 

 

While I think Legacy was the better DLC, you should pick up MotA.  I'm netural on Tallis (I have no strong feelings about Felicia Day,) other than her look being very uncanny valley.  However, the rest gives a nice bit of insight into Orlais, which I enjoyed.   The comments that even an aggressive Hawke can make during the party is priceless.

 

If I see them discounted then I'll give them a go. No real compulsion at the moment and I'm aware of most of the relevant details anyway. I think I do at least, lol. 

[Xilizhra]

Mage Dominion? 

It depends on which character I play. My Dalish would be more interested in the restoration of the elven homeland and having the mage rebels as allies due to more-or-less aligning goals. My Vashoth... I'm not sure yet.

[KainD]

It depends on which character I play. My Dalish would be more interested in the restoration of the elven homeland and having the mage rebels as allies due to more-or-less aligning goals. My Vashoth... I'm not sure yet.

 

Why would mage rebels be interested in restoring elf homeland? Or would they be welcome to live there with the elves? Or is it just the elf mage rebels? 

[The dead fish]

Pro-Circle basically means upholding a status-quo from before the mage revolution imo

There are large areas to improve. We must not forget that the system originally created by the Templars with the collaboration and the activism of Mages is not at all the same today. It has been corrupted by time and the Chantry. 

 

I wish for example we could have circles of mages, but without the hand of the chantry on this. They could keep an eye as well. But Religion shouldn't lead the circle, because faith is all about heart, spirituality and not mind. Because it isn't always rational and in this area we always need rational people.  After all, there was the inquisition before the templars. 

[Lotion Soronarr]

I do hope one can get her some other attire.

 

Dont' care if it's the height of fashion in Orlais, Orlais is stupid and it is hideous.